Rationale 0.2.1, and Tutorial Video

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Bad Mutha Hubbard

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Sep 9, 2009, 3:49:38 PM9/9/09
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Rationale 0.2.1 has a great deal of fixes:
http://rationale.sourceforge.net/
Bug fixes aren't exciting new features, but they save hair from being
pulled.

And a tutorial video that manages to scratch the surface:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkD_SisGz0

-Chuckk

carl

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Sep 10, 2009, 6:14:23 PM9/10/09
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Probably you are not getting the recognition you deserve, so let
me be clear: Rationale is the most promising microtonal software
I've ever seen. It's quite close, in fact, to the mythical software
that was heavily discussed here at the time of this group's founding.

-Carl

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carl

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Sep 10, 2009, 6:17:30 PM9/10/09
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Also, I consider the In-Tune Sonata to be a masterpiece of microtonal
music, and How Many Nights In? one of the few slow pieces of music
(of any kind) I like. -Carl

Chris Vaisvil

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Sep 10, 2009, 10:49:26 PM9/10/09
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this looks really awesome!

is it only linux or windows?

the only suggestion I could make if you don't have it already is keyboard input with a way to adjust the tonal center to keep the JI center correct. I think that might speed up entry in some cases. (Other DAWs have "step input" which allow you to enter a note or chord each quarter or eighth etc.)

Mike Battaglia

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Sep 11, 2009, 2:56:34 AM9/11/09
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Haha, mythical indeed. I haven't had time to check it out yet, but
it's been on my to do list for a long, long time now. I'll get around
to it one of these days.

A question I know I must have asked before, but can't find in my
emails: You have this listed on sourceforge. Does that mean you are
looking for contributors, or would you prefer to handle this solo at
the moment?

-Mike

badmuthahubbard

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Sep 26, 2009, 10:16:30 AM9/26/09
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Sorry, I posted this and haven't checked back. Poor organizational
skills...
Thanks very much for that assessment!
There's a new Csound release being prepared right now, and if it pulls
things together well enough, I should be able to assemble those
executables I've been talking about.
-Chuckk

badmuthahubbard

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Sep 26, 2009, 10:19:23 AM9/26/09
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Thanks very much, Carl. I haven't heard that piece mentioned in a long
time!
I suppose I ought to convert the In-Tune Sonata to Rationale format
one of these days, and I could even make a video of it playing. I
included the ability to convert files from that older format
(JIsequencer) to Rationale at the beginning, not sure if it still
works.

-Chuckk

badmuthahubbard

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Sep 26, 2009, 10:22:41 AM9/26/09
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Hi Chris.
It runs in Python, and I was pretty careful to test it on Win, Mac,
and Linux regularly. There are a few things that just don't work as
well on Mac (maximizing the window and the movement of the cursor,
which only moves as long as you move the mouse), but neither
interferes with the sound.
I've been waiting on some Csound fixes to whip up single-file
executables for Mac and Windows, and they may be done in the next
week.

Live input would be a definite possibility. I've been on hiatus for a
while, and never managed to quite get my head around it. I'd want it
to be pretty open, so the user can set it up however he/she wants.

-Chuckk


On Sep 11, 5:49 am, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvais...@gmail.com> wrote:
> this looks really awesome!
>
> is it only linux or windows?
>
> the only suggestion I could make if you don't have it already is keyboard
> input with a way to adjust the tonal center to keep the JI center correct. I
> think that might speed up entry in some cases. (Other DAWs have "step input"
> which allow you to enter a note or chord each quarter or eighth etc.)
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Bad Mutha Hubbard <badmuthahubb...@gmail.com

badmuthahubbard

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Sep 26, 2009, 10:27:05 AM9/26/09
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Hi Mike.

I don't know. I managed to get it working all by myself, surprisingly,
but if you look under the hood it's not pretty. Many, many workarounds
and some very bad programming practices which I've since learned to
recognize, but pretty deeply built into it.
It's in Python, using Csound for audio and TkInter for GUI. I guess
whether I'd want help would depend what ideas and vision someone had.
At any rate, it's GPL, so if we see things differently, anyone is
welcome to take it and run in their own version.

-Chuckk

Chris Vaisvil

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Sep 26, 2009, 11:44:41 AM9/26/09
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OK - once you get the single file version I would like to give this a try.

Thanks - programming hard detailed work and I appreciate what you are doing!

Chris
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