X-Box: Will it stay?
Chris
there is something that worries me. X-box is still a
reletively new system and its "Very" good, though in the
gameing bussines one wrong market plan and it can all go
down, what I'm trying to say is that I don't bealieve
that X-Box is going as much as it should give itself
credit for.
So far I've only seen one game that actually does X-Box
justice, Halo. The graphics are wonderful and its soo
real, I feel like I want to reach in and touch it:oP
Though unfortunetly other games such as "Jet Set Radio
Future" and "Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen" are just a few of
the wannabe' copies of PS2 games. If X-Box does'nt start
makeing units of it own ideas and get with what they can
bring the gameing world I fear the worst, X-Box
has "Alot" of potiential and I'd hate to see that syastem
go to the system graveyard.
Oh and might I give and example of how I do bealieve X-box
is right now, two words "Atari Jaguar", If X-Box keeps
this up it will sadly turn out like that system, all hype
and no good games. I will hope for the best and hope that
good games come our way:o)
Real
xbox development staff and tell them this. Do you realy
believe that sony and nintindo are going to take this slap
in face lightly. Hell no, they probably have 200 units
each torn apart in their development center see what was
done and are doing a frankenstien copy and calling is PS3
and Mario's playcenter. Unless x-box has something big
(like 300 super titles like we have never seen before) up
their sleeve, I give them a few years before they cash it
in. They have what it takes to make it big they just need
to make it go. Why don't they make some of their own
stuff, they major software writers at their headquarters?
People send in ideas and sugestions to all of your
favorite console game developers. Tell them what you want
and how you want it. Tell your freinds to do the same
thing. If you do not tell them they run out of ideas. That
is how you get Madden Football 5 years straight and GTA 3
times. C'mon shout tell'em. Did we spend $300.00+Tax for a
paper weight or excellent gameing experiance?!!?
>.
>
David G. Dahlstrom
order to be successful in the marketplace. Some of these are price,
technical sophistication/innovation, better games (similar to competition,
but improved), distinctive games (games unique to that gaming system),
corporate leverage power (ability to convince others to follow you),
tenacity (relentlessly driving your product despite competitive pressure),
and situational awareness (being conscious of the changing market
landscapes). Xbox is still in its relative infancy, so a cursory judgment
of its current game lineup in comparison to a system such as the PS2, which
has been around a lot longer, needs to be given fair weighting using all of
these criteria.
When I purchased my Xbox, I purchased with an expectation that it was the
most technically advanced system, and that it could (and eventually would)
offer distinctive games that other systems either would not or could not
offer (such as the upcoming Morrowind). I also had expectations that
Microsoft would have enough weight in the marketplace to drive their vision
to a degree of success reasonable enough to keep the system around for a
while. You are correct in saying that some of the Xbox titles are similar
to PS2 titles, but any system that comes out these days has to have its
share of clones to attract the crossover crowd. Quite frankly, I never had
an interest in these kinds of Japanese flavor, and often rather juvenile
titles; and so I just don't buy them--but still, MS needs to have titles in
this genre to keep the segment that enjoys these sort of games happy.
Insofar as comparing the Xbox to Jaguar, on the surface there might be some
similarities, but (a) Jaguar was becoming technically passé at the time it
was released since its development/release/support was stymied by Atari's
obsession with its computer lineup; (b) Atari did a very lousy job of
marketing the Jaguar; and (c) Atari was, by the time of the release of
Jaguar, no longer the major player it once was and really didn't know how to
deal with being in that kind of situation--not because of the Jaguar, but in
spite of it. The Xbox, on the other hand, is (a) top-notch technically, (b)
being marketed very strongly, (c) and is being sold by a company that is
pretty much as strong as ever (despite efforts of the DOJ). Of course,
these things don't mean automatic success, but they do at least point out
that an Xbox/Jaguar comparison is largely an apples/oranges sort of thing.
From what I've seen, Xbox has a tremendous number of titles in the queue,
and among them are examples that should push the envelope adequately enough
to keep Xbox on the bleeding edge. It's true that a PS3 could eventually do
some damage, but by that time, Xbox should have an adequate title base to
keep its momentum going. The only thing that actually concerns me about
Xbox's future is the Xbox2, and the possibility that MS could shoot itself
in the foot. It is my understanding that when MS shutdown its Ultimate TV
group, it moved many folks to its Xbox area. This, of course, suggests that
Xbox2 may (or may not) incorporate UltimateTV/Tivo-like features. While
that is all well and good, there is some possibility that a loss of focus on
the gaming side could be disastrous. On the other hand, if they can offer
new features and keep the gaming side 100-percent uncompromised at a
market-competitive price, then they're golden.
Dave
"Chris" <Kha...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TheCockroach
software industry, they'll do it again with X-box. Oh, and
learn how to spell- hint, use a dictionary!
>
Teboy
considering it's technical superiority over other consoles. But then again
in order for them to survive the 1st year, they have to stick with this PS2
mediocre games formula just to keep up with current conditions in the gaming
world. But for them to just sit down and not do anything to revolutionize
the gaming world then its true they're going to fade away soon. Innovations
is what made Microsoft no. 1 and if they dont put the same effort on Xbox,
then this console will be another Jaguar like you guys mentioned. So far, i
think they're doing good, they have kept up with Sony and Nintendo, in their
first few months, but it will be a slow and long climb to the top for sure.
"David G. Dahlstrom" <ddahl...@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
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Malakai
Relax about how the games arent good. They are 10 times
better than ps2 games at least. I am happy you all have
time to sit here and complain about something you have no
idea about. Are you game makers? Can you program? Do
you work for Microsoft? I didnt think so...RELAX the time
is coming and your either onboard or your sinking (ps2).
And who cares if ps2 copies the Xbox. If they cant design
there own console then they need as much, if not more help
than Microsoft. One last thing...Why do you suppose there
was a gta 3 because you stupid ps2 owners keep buying sub-
par slow loading crappy games and when one does good they
make a second why because your stupid enough to buy it.
If you dont want 2nd and 3rd remakes of a game dont buy
the first one. That sounds smart dosent it.
Malakai
Keep on gaming!!!
>.
>
YES
Microsoft is committed to this game console.
It is only a few months old....let the developers spend more time with the dev kits....from what I have heard and read, developing for the XBox is MUCH easier than developing for other consoles....this, in addition to the POWER, FEATURES, and FLEXIBILITY that the XBox has to offer will keep the developers developing XBox games.
There are lots of good games out there right now and many more to come....
>.
>
Dr.zEn
agreeing with?
Dr.zEn
"Real" <newp...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Guy
of you..send them to me right now so i can destroy them
before its too late!...also send me all the games u have
and all of your other systems so i can destroy those..and
if u got porn...i better destroy that too!...send it all!
>
Robert Skinner
And why does he have to explain anything to you? Maybe they're simply on the
same network, or maybe they have the same ISP. Who cares?
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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+G
I believe that when you post from the web site, you'll show up as using this
class of IP's.
The web servers doing the actual NNTP posting.
It's possible that you could be on the same web server, posting to the same
thread.
Thus the duplicate IP's. They probably have a web farm/cluster for the
site.
Another hint is the posting host reader type.
"X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000"
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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: Care to explain why you have the same IP as the origional poster that
:
Dr.zEn
That's enough for me, if you don't like it, sit down.
Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:uDuBsKO4BHA.2024@tkmsftngp02...
Dr.zEn
Dr.zEn U.S.M.C.
"+G" <positiv...@hotmail.com-snip> wrote in message
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Master Chief Prime
you're
> agreeing with?
>
Not to mention they each misspell "gaming" as "gameing" among other
giveaways. Someone's either insecure or loony.
Danny Rego
from the same IP??? It might?!
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:uDuBsKO4BHA.2024@tkmsftngp02...
Master Chief Prime
"Danny Rego" <m...@here.there> wrote in message
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> Does everyone who posts through that WEB-NEWSGROUP thing on XBox.com come
> from the same IP??? It might?!
>
But do they commit the same misspellings (gameing)? Possible, but odds are
better this is someone replying to himself.
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"Master Chief Prime" <co...@tevolved.com> wrote in message
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: "Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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Dr.zEn
Dr.zEn
"+G" <positiv...@hotmail.com-snip> wrote in message
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Robert Skinner
IP adresses, your life must be very sad.
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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Dr.zEn
joke barney... Two nincompoop's post agreeing comments, both misspelling
the same words. I checked the IP's to get more bang for my humor buck...
The fact that you're still talking about it days later prooves
1. that you have even less a life than you claim I do
2. that you're probably the same person, which is really sad.
You see, I have cred in this ng, you don't. Get in line, son.
Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:#HcLcyf4BHA.604@tkmsftngp04...
Dr.zEn
3. Network security and packet sniffing is what I do for a living, so while
that may seem like advanced alient technology to someone like yourself, my
newsreader does this automatically...
go figure...
Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:#HcLcyf4BHA.604@tkmsftngp04...
Robert Skinner
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:#E9sBJn4BHA.1452@tkmsftngp02...
> Are you American by any chance?
>
Yes, yes I am.
Dr.zEn
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Post #1 is from 10.201.226.38, Post #2 is from 10.201.232.164.
They don't look like they're from the same IP's to me.
So how do you know for certain, based on the headers, that they are from the
same dude?
All I can figure is you're either on the MS network sniffing this traffic or
your crystal balls way clearer then mine. ;-)
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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: ugh, no, and it would take too long to explain :[
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Dr.zEn
Canada
Dr.zEn
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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: ohwait, I forgot to tell you yours:
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: Canada
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: Dr.zEn
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Robert Skinner
And I'm English, not Canadian.
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" , wishing the hell he woulda' just stayed in bed, instead
wrote in message news:eWPYz6n4BHA.2616@tkmsftngp04...
> [Being an American] That explains why you're a cvnt then.
ooo, you're going to make friends fast in here w/ that attitude!
Well allow me, as a representative of my homeland of the United States of
America, to retort:
I'm going to spell this out for your without using big words, seeing as
though you're from england...Have someone draw this out in a crayon for you
if you like...
But humoring me will not save you from the fate that will become yours. Much
like the crashing waves that peel down the lineup at Sebastian inlent, I
will come rolling in, crest up, and crash into you so fiercely I will tear
away your very existence. Then you will no longer hinder the evolution of
mankind with your befuddled thoughts and regurgitated blasphemy.
We're Americans, which makes us cool, you're english, which makes you no
better than the drool running down from the lips of your average Alzheimer's
patient. Is that simple enough for you?
Sniping at me because I'm an American? How crude! Hey, answer me
something: Why are all the english still pissed that we, as a handful of
colonies handed their asses to them? I mean, I don't blame you, I'd be
pissed too. And seriously, whom are you trying to kid? You never had any
days of supreme world power. Our forefathers left your piece of shit country
in an attempt to forge a better nation, and quite frankly, they succeeded.
...And since you're so very fond of judging us Americans, let's contrast our
two homelands shall we?
We have hot dogs and hamburgers, you have your queer little fish and chips.
We have rock stars who fark Playboy playmates. You have rock stars who hump
one legged vegetarians.
We have the Viper, you have a dented up black Mercedes.
We have Elvis who dies like a real man -- grunting out a brown trout on the
throne. You have John Lennon, shot dead like the little bitch he was.
We have a continent, you have an island.
We have bombers stationed in your homeland, you have nothing in ours.
We have Buffy, you have Giles.
We have DENTISTS.
You country exists as merely a buffer zone we're keeping around as a
sentimental reminder of the Cold War.
We permit you to be.
NOTICE: Your license to exist is hereby revoked.
Since you english farks are so very very polite, would you kindly swallow
the business end of a shot gun and find the trigger with your toe? I'm sure
your mother, who's wretched twat from which you fell would be very relieved.
P.S. your beer sucks, and your women are ugly,
Dr.zEn
was I ranting again?
Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" , wishing the hell he woulda' just stayed in bed, instead
wrote in message news:eWPYz6n4BHA.2616@tkmsftngp04...
> [Being an American] That explains why you're a cvnt then.
ooo, you're going to make friends fast in here w/ that attitude!
Well allow me, as a representative of my homeland of the United States of
America, to retort:
I'm going to spell this out for your without using big words, seeing as
though you're from england...Have someone draw this out in a crayon for you
if you like...
But humoring me will not save you from the fate that will become yours. Much
like the crashing waves that peel down the lineup at Sebastian inlent, I
will come rolling in, crest up, and crash into you so fiercely I will tear
away your very existence. Then you will no longer hinder the evolution of
mankind with your befuddled thoughts and regurgitated blasphemy.
We're Americans, which makes us cool, you're english, which makes you no
better than the drool running down from the lips of your average Alzheimer's
patient. Is that simple enough for you?
Sniping at me because I'm an American? How crude! Hey, answer me
something: Why are all the english still pissed that we, as a handful of
colonies handed their asses to them? I mean, I don't blame you, I'd be
pissed too. And seriously, whom are you trying to kid? You never had any
days of supreme world power. Our forefathers left your POS country
in an attempt to forge a better nation, and quite frankly, they succeeded.
...And since you're so very fond of judging us Americans, let's contrast our
two homelands shall we?
We have hot dogs and hamburgers, you have your queer little fish and chips.
We have rock stars who fark Playboy playmates. You have rock stars who hump
one legged vegetarians.
We have the Viper, you have a dented up black Mercedes.
We have Elvis who dies like a real man -- grunting out a brown trout on the
throne. You have John Lennon, shot dead like the little bitch he was.
We have a continent, you have an island.
We have bombers stationed in your homeland, you have nothing in ours.
We have Buffy, you have Giles.
We have DENTISTS.
You country exists as merely a buffer zone we're keeping around as a
sentimental reminder of the Cold War.
We permit you to be.
NOTICE: Your license to exist is hereby revoked.
Robert Skinner
proved my point.
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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Dr.zEn
and that's all you've got? I guess france isn't the only country that knows
how to surrender...
Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:uLQFott4BHA.2296@tkmsftngp05...
Robert Skinner
you said it isn't, but then you admit to spending ten minutes writing a
flame. The reason I don't do the same is because I have better things to do.
Which is more than I can say for you.
"Dr.zEn" <dr...@phr0zen.com> wrote in message
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Dr.zEn
"Robert Skinner" <@> wrote in message news:ubAfDaz4BHA.1456@tkmsftngp02...
> OK, you've just proved my point again. I originally said your life is sad,
> you said it isn't, but then you admit to spending ten minutes writing a
> flame. The reason I don't do the same is because I have better things to
do.
> Which is more than I can say for you.
>
bob, the reason you can't retort is because you stepped in dogshit by saying
that all Americans are 'cunts'.
Please don't worry about how I spend my time neither...I sleep 4 hours a
nite, from the time I bolt up in the morning and go surfing to the time I
get in at 1:30 and crash, I *charge*.
You'd be suprised how much you can get done when you're not worrying about
other people.
Further, I thought10 minutes was time well spent...the fact that you can't
even step back proves it. I consider it time well spent watching you
flopping around like the little limey whiney bitch that you are.
Now be a good boy and suck on the busness end of this shotgun while old Doc
Zen finds the trigger.
Dr.zEn