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Captain America

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May 18, 2002, 8:57:16 AM5/18/02
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Thanks MS for ripping your supporters off. The US market
showed this system MAD love when the markets overseas
didn't give a rat Ass about it. Americans supported the
system despite it sub-par library of games.This market
(US)hung in there, with the crazy shaped controller that
came with this system. We (Americans), got this system
off the ground and this is how you repay us. Microsoft,
just remember all the people you screwed over will
remember this when the Xbox 2 drop.To all the saps who
think Microsoft is right your playing right into Bill's
hands.So,go ahead and post something stupid to this.

Uzi4u

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May 18, 2002, 9:20:51 AM5/18/02
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Damn man you really are a total newb to the gaming
bussines. Offcourse prices wil drop son. They always do
and if you think MS is ripping you off just go ahead
screw of the top of the xbox and have a little peek
inside. Now we all know what's inside but that is top
notch stuff and judging by the hardware i think the xbox
is well worth the money so what if the prices drop either
way you got it cheaper then it's worth....

Microbot

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May 18, 2002, 9:42:59 AM5/18/02
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OH settle down!.
When I bought an XBOX I didn't buy into some kind of Marriage or Business
partnership and neither did you.
Why do you feel cheated and screwed over? You got what you paid for!
We didn't here in Aus. Yet we Paid MORE than what you did. Yet you expected
us to buy it with issues at a higher than the US price?

I am an Australian and I am Proud to be. I waited till after the XBOX
dropped in price for many reasons. One of which was because the timing of
the launch was wrong for me, Just like many others I had Bills bills and
more bills to be paid. I have a now 6 yr old Son and his 1st year Schooling
fees were unbelievably high. And this was part of the reason for my wait.
I have been waiting and waiting for this machine to come out, And people
like yourself degrade us and others outside your country by telling us that
we are not worthy of a purchase such as this.
We didn't give a Ratz? Where do you get off? Just because you agreed to pay
the full price and we didn't you feel that we didn't care for this unit?.
You say that you support the XBOX in getting it off the ground yet you
whinge about these changes to the pricing which will allow many others that
before could not afford the unit to purchase one.
If these prices did not happed then you would be denying all these people
that will now buy an XBOX of their purchase. Now who is still supporting
who? huh?
You my friend are ONLY supporting yourself!

Since buying my XBOX I have joined many News Forums to try and get the best
out of my purchase and all I have encountered is the BIGGEST pack of
whinging, Complaining and Ungrateful bastards I have every seen.
And this also goes for the Australian forums. There are many exceptions to
this but it appears that no one is satisfied with what they bought. Well why
the HELL did you purchase it in the first place for? I think you forget!
And to top it all off you come in here and sook like children, And do you
think that in here Microsoft will learn of this? Now way! Where do I see
"Thankyou MS but could you please"?
All you are doing is Trolling for some sympathy.
You feel you got screwed over, Well get over it.
You are but only the Small COG in a VERY Big wheel and the XBOX Revolution
is there for the World to enjoy.
If you are so upset with your purchase then sell the bloody thing.
Much is the same attitude with the Aus Forums. Here we see that the Aus and
Europe Xbox's can not be connected to HDTV capable sets. It was disabled at
production.
If these Australians are so upset about all the complaints they have then
bring the bloody thing back for a refund, Which they are entitled to do
under our LAW of False Advertising. MS does advertise that the Unit is HDTV
capable yet it clearly is not.

When is everyone going to use these forums for actually discussing XBOX
relates issues and not whinging about how badly they think they have been
cheated?
You wanted to be the first to get the machine? You PAID full price.
You bought the machine before all the quirks were ironed out? You are stuck
with it!
Unless there is a fault with your XBOX then just sit down, start playing and
for gods sake shut up.

Microbot

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James Clery

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May 18, 2002, 10:18:56 AM5/18/02
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Your right, Americans supported the system. But why do you think MS gave
some free stuff to other markets? To say thank you? They did it to gain
support in other markets that aren't doing as well. I guess you would like a
big pat on the back and a thank you, but get over it. You have the best
gaming system out there, that should be thanks enough. This is the most
rediculous think I have ever heard, the price in America was dropped by
$100, how is this screwing Americans. Since when is a price drop a bad
thing.

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jsohman

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May 18, 2002, 10:30:32 AM5/18/02
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Man youre freakin out, did you know it is costing msft.
about $450, to make the xbox! When its all done they are
losing 2-300 dollers, they just wanna succeed so that you
didnt waste youre money!
>> showed this system MAD love when the maÍ{ wÀ E Ü_f#¬Og#
s° ìO rkets overseas

Microbot

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May 18, 2002, 10:59:22 AM5/18/02
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Why are you asking me jsohman?
I am quite aware of this as I have posted many times.

Microbot

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>> showed this system MAD love when the maヘ{掫タ E ワ_f#ャOg#
sー �O rkets overseas

no1

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May 18, 2002, 11:00:39 AM5/18/02
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Captain Amerika, Since the XBOX was touted from the
beginning as the most powerful gaming system ever, your
goal should be to see that it's strengths have been taken
full advantage of by the game developers/publishers and
work to put an end to what appears as a current trend of
simply porting games. Your concern should be more about
achieving the total gaming experience and countless hours
of superior entertainment you bought into when you plunked
down your $300.

I personally think time is coming when the
developers/publishers can't afford not to utilize the
XBOX's strengths because they've entered the arena and are
now in direct competition with Microsoft.

>.
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AARON

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May 18, 2002, 11:19:11 AM5/18/02
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SORRY!! I'm afraid I could not compete with the level
stupidity in your last statement!
Simply put...If you don't like the system on offer go
somewhere else!!
>.
>

pompan

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May 17, 2002, 8:31:07 PM5/17/02
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in gaming business its too fast to drop the price.
its not like xbox were sold ten or hundred
thousand units in each country.

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pompan

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May 17, 2002, 8:34:59 PM5/17/02
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i'be been saying this for a long time but
all companies are loosing money from selling
consoles. not just xbox. they gonna make up
the lost from the license of the games.
ps2 has a lot of killer title compared to other
systems so sony has a bit more advantage.

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>> showed this system MAD love when the maヘ{掫タ E ワ_f#ャOg#

sー �O rkets overseas

Greg Howard

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May 18, 2002, 12:53:18 PM5/18/02
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MS is marketing and doing business. We, on the other hand, are playing
games. Why does Captain America and other whiners in this NG think they know
how to run a $$$illion dollar corporation?

1. They sold for a set price. We bought it. We didn't get ripped off.
2. MS wanted a foot in the European market. Germany has an excellent network
of software developers. MS did business.
3. "Sub-par" is subjective.
4. The controller is large since MS marketed to adults. Plenty of playtime
in any store with a demo gave us all a taste of its handling.
5. Microsoft got the sytem "off the ground." We were the consumers who
fueled it further.
6. MS didn't "screw" any of us. They sold Xbox for $299. We bought it and
enjoyed it. Those who felt "ripped off" at that time (without price drop)
returned their systems and got different consoles, etc. Microsoft delivered
a product for a set price without pie-in-the-sky promises.
7. MS isn't right or wrong. It is a company and Bill Gates is its founding
CEO. He has done good thing for the computer world, and he has done bad
things for the computer world. Right now he's advancing his company into the
console business. Part of that plan is to attract more programmers and
developers who already write consoles to adapt over to PC (Wired magazine).
There is nothing "wrong" with this business strategy.
8. If any of the above is "stupid", then flame on.

Greg Howard


Microbot

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May 18, 2002, 1:03:11 PM5/18/02
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No and this is why they dropped the price. To increase the speed of unit
sales.

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Microbot

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May 18, 2002, 1:06:05 PM5/18/02
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Couldn't agree more!!!!
Well said.


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bignel75

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May 18, 2002, 1:21:21 PM5/18/02
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>.
Wow, I couldn't disagree with you more. Yes, it was the
NORTH AMERICAN market that got the Xbox on it's feet, but
I want more games to be made for the Xbox for years to
come. I don't want to buy a new system in two years. The
more support for this system, the less requirement to come
out with some sort of new and improved system in the near
term. Good strategy Microsoft. I would like to have
payed less too, but it's like that with almost everything
you buy isn't it?
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