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Radeon

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Jan 26, 2006, 6:47:23 PM1/26/06
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Swam Mollen

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Jan 26, 2006, 7:50:42 PM1/26/06
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Wow, so the estimates were a little off, but only by 200k.

IT also demonstrates that the criticism of the XBOX 360 launch are way
off. 1.4 million for the first two months on sale for the XBOX, vs 1.5
million for the XBOX 360.

The only difference is that the XBOX launched in one region, whereas
the 360 is available in 3.

The net result is the sever lack of stock in each.

That means that between December 2nd and December 31st, 200,000 o so
XBOXs sold in the UK, and 600,000 more XBOX shipped in the US over the
launch day totals.

Obviously a large proportion of these were made prior to the launch, so
were probably looking at 2 months manufacturing total of 1.5 milion -
on a par with the XBOX really.

And going forward, it would mean they are making around 850,000 a
month, or 2.5 million over 3 months.

THey really needed to be making closer to 950,000 - 1,000,000 a month
to meet targets.

Since each and every unit made has been sold (bar the 100,000 or so at
launch in Japan), this means we can confidently say that these are all
machines in peoples homes.

Last time I looked, there were around 50,000 auctions completed over
the last couple of months on Ebay for 360s, so that's a tiny proportion
of the total sold.

Looks like Bliggy is going to have to find a new Analyst that
contradicts Microsofts SEC filings....which would have to mean some
fairly creative Googling since it's illegal to lie to the SEC!

Bikini Whacks

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Jan 26, 2006, 7:55:58 PM1/26/06
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In article <1138323042.4...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
bigboob...@lycos.co.uk says...
Like we care you swollen fucking douche-bag.

Swam Mollen

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Jan 26, 2006, 7:57:21 PM1/26/06
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Careful, you might end up looking like a Troll if you smack talk like
that too often.

Oops, too late. ;-)

Bikini Whacks

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Jan 26, 2006, 7:59:14 PM1/26/06
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In article <1138323441.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
bigboob...@lycos.co.uk says...

> Careful, you might end up looking like a Troll if you smack talk like
> that too often.
>
> Oops, too late. ;-)
>
>
LOL, that wasn't the response I was trying to extract!

Good on yer, mate.

Swam Mollen

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Jan 26, 2006, 8:03:03 PM1/26/06
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Go on, what were you trying to get me to say?

Bikini Whacks

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Jan 26, 2006, 8:19:16 PM1/26/06
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In article <1138323783.4...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
bigboob...@lycos.co.uk says...

> Go on, what were you trying to get me to say?
>
>
Oh, ya know, anything provocative. Sometimes it's just goood to argue.
Sitting naked in cowboy boots. Smiling.

btw, your relationship with your pecker could be seriously compromised
if you trim your pubes with the same scissors with which you trim your
posts.

Mark E. Smith

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Jan 26, 2006, 8:47:48 PM1/26/06
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That's funny....here in Japan you walk into any big chain electronics store
(bic camera, yodobashi, Laox, etc) and you can see piles of XB360's.

XB360's are selling less than Gamecubes here in Japan. I wouldn't say that
there is a severe shortage of units here....just a severe shortage of
demand, lol.

Blig Merk

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Jan 26, 2006, 10:46:24 PM1/26/06
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Subject line fixed.

"But analyst Jamie Friedman with Soleil Securities said the company
failed to meet even his reduced expectations for Xbox sales, while also
losing more money than he expected. Microsoft's home and entertainment
division, which includes Xbox, lost $293 million during the quarter,
after earning $55 million in the year-ago period.
Microsoft loses money each time it sells an Xbox 360 console, although
the eventual goal is to break even."

The XFLop NEVER made money and only LOST money over its short 4 year
life, costing Micro$haft an estimated $4 Billion to $5 Billion in
losses. The xflop three-shitty is losing even more for Micro$haft per
console and sales are not enough to even retain minority market share,
much less gain. It needed to gain at least 50% over the XFLop just to
break even in about 4 years. There is no way that is going to happen
now. It is bizarre to the point of mentally deranged that you xflop
fanfairies somehow see an inferior console-wannabe like the xflop
three-shitty that never gains widespread acceptance, continues to
underperform as far as technology, gameplay and games are concerned,
adds nothing to video gaming development except cause developers to go
under or ruin ports of successful games, loses money constantly and
continuously, and just generally lowers the scale for hardware and game
quality.

Jordan

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:11:50 AM1/27/06
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"The XFLop NEVER made money and only LOST money over its short 4 year
life"

Not true. The Xbox division turned a $84 million profit in one quarter.
Q3 2004 if I remember right, all thanks to Halo 2. Lesse here... Yup.

http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Microsoft_Announce_&_039;As_Expected&_039;_Q3_Results_7633_0_0.htm

"The news comes just months after the company reported the Xbox
division's very first operating profit of $84 million."

- Jordan

ScoopeX

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:30:53 AM1/27/06
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Blig Merk wrote:
>> Subject line fixed.
>> P l e a s e f u c k o f f y o u t w a t.
>

:)

--
XBL Gamertag: ScoopeX
Currently Playing - Halo 2 - XBOX 360.
Xbox.com - Founding member. :)
CD PLAY : Shapeshifters - incredible extended album version

ScoopeX

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:31:45 AM1/27/06
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He was only trying to help.

ScoopeX

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:32:11 AM1/27/06
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A reach round ?

;)

ScoopeX

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:33:15 AM1/27/06
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What if you have a blunt pecker as in choobs case ?

ScoopeX

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:35:56 AM1/27/06
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But in japan people eat cat and dog meat like a maccy d burger.

lol. ;)

Blig Merk

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Jan 27, 2006, 2:19:17 AM1/27/06
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You really blow me away with how stupid you seem, Jackass Jordan. It is
a real wonder how you are functioning on your own, much less in that
Beaverton car lot. You must be a real asset around there, or some kind
of ass. I guess you don't need to know basic economics when it is a
'charity' car lot.
Here is an example that even your Special Education mind should be
able to understand. You go to Vegas with $5,000. You lose $1000 the
first day, you lose another $1000 on the second day, you lose another
$1000 on the third day. In the beginning of the fourth day, you put in
$100 and hit a $200 payback. You just made $100, right? Then, you
proceed to lose $1,100 during the rest of the day. On the fifth day,
you lose $1000. Here is your basic arithemetic question. What do you
have as you are ready to leave Vegas on the sixth day? $5,000 - $1000 -
$1000 - $1000 + $100 - $1100 - $1000 = 0. Did you make or lose money?
By your way of thinking, you somehow come away thinking you made $100
but your pocket is still empty. You aren't getting this yet, are you?
Well, it is a good thing there is that 'charity' car lot in Beaverton
there, where they give cars away and still 'make money'.

Swam Mollen

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Jan 27, 2006, 2:29:08 AM1/27/06
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One of the great things about being an extremely cash rich corperation,
with virtually unlimited pockets is that if you cant make a profit on
somthing you are determined to succeed with, you can continue to fund
it without hurting the share prices.

Microsoft is a long-term player, they have goals 10-15 years away.

Unlike certain other companies (Nintendo, Sega, 3d0) that have just one
core business, they can afford to continue ploughing money into a
project.

You know full well that the real reason the XBOX division posts losses
is because it is all investment at this stage.

In the last 5 years, they have developed and launched 2 completely new
consoles, built up a completely new console brand, bought at least 2
games developers, set up a world class online games service, and
created a new development environment (XNA).

Frankly I'd be stunned if that didnt set them back so much that any
profitability is years off.

But then you hate to admit these things because somehow, the admission
that MS is a long-play company scares you.

They give away MSN Messenger, yet it costs them money to develop it.
Same with Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, Windows Live, and
many other technologies.

Microsoft went from 0 browser market-share to 90% domination through
sheer brute force.

That got them into lots of trouble, but it was another example of their
long term planning.

Frankly you seem totally scared at the moment Mr Merk - responding with
little more than re-iterations of your original post, hoping, it seems,
that we'll forget that you are totally bitchslapped.

Jordan

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Jan 27, 2006, 8:35:56 AM1/27/06
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It's simple. You stated they never once turned a profit. It's clear
they did, but only for one quarter. What's so hard to understand about
that? Gee, Bligmerk wrong again and he responds with the usual ad
hominem attacks... What a surprise...

More links: Enjoy!

http://www.geeknewz.com/comments.php?catid=3&id=4222

Xbox makes profit, shocker
MICROSOFT'S Home Entertainment division - responsible for the Xbox
console - has posted its first ever quarterly profit.

While the Xbox has always been considered a loss leader for the next
generation of consoles, the Christmas period has given the platform a
boost into profitability.

Strong hardware sales, coupled with the phenomenally successful Halo 2,
means that Microsoft made $84 million on total sales of $1.41 billion.
This is compared to a loss made this time last year of $397 million on
$1.27 billion.

http://forums16.consumerreview.com/showthread.php?t=4192

Xbox Turns a Profit

For the first time, Microsoft's game gamble pays off -- and nicely.

By David Adams

January 27, 2005 - Microsoft today announced its fiscal Q2 earnings.
This may be exciting news for business investors and tech-sector
analysts, but for gaming fans, there's really only one tidbit which
stands out. But it's a big one: the Xbox is profitable.

This quarter marks the first profitable quarter for Microsoft's home
and entertainment division, home of the Xbox. The division showed an
operating income of $84 million in Q2, compared to a loss of $397
million in the same period last year.

Why such a dramatic change? This year, the Xbox has grown significantly
in market share and in terms of gamer cred, no doubt. But Microsoft is
quick to credit Halo 2 and the subsequent growth of Xbox Live for the
system's rushing success recently. That's a story we'll go with.

Of course, the next console generation looms, and it's not at all
certain who will prevail. It's easy to put money on Sony, as
PlayStation momentum is obvious, but it can no longer be said that
Microsoft will start at a distant second. Hopefully later this year,
much more will be clear. Stay tuned.

It can be done. All you need is a game that sells 6 million copies in a
couple of months, and yes, you can make money.

Tim Bird

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Jan 27, 2006, 8:58:39 AM1/27/06
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"Jordan" <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1138368955....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> It's simple. You stated they never once turned a profit. It's clear
> they did, but only for one quarter. What's so hard to understand about
> that? Gee, Bligmerk wrong again and he responds with the usual ad
> hominem attacks... What a surprise...

He's not going to change now, is he?


Jonah Falcon

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Jan 27, 2006, 10:13:03 AM1/27/06
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"Radeon" <Rade...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yes, but 1.2 million of them are being auctioned on eBay.


Magnulus

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Jan 27, 2006, 4:07:20 PM1/27/06
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MS does not have unlimited pockets, this is some kind of urban myth.
Actually, Microsoft as a company is slowing down in terms of growth. They
are not unlike in many ways... Sony. Microsoft at some point has to turn a
profit with the XBox, or they will have to get out of videogaming and focus
on other areas that they need to focus on.

And MS has had less-than-successful initiatives. Microsoft Bob was a
failure. Microsoft Java was utterly shot down by the courts, and MSN trying
to replace Google as a websearch engine has been an utter failure.


mikeh

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Jan 27, 2006, 4:41:19 PM1/27/06
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Hmm..."Actually, Microsoft as a company is slowing down in terms of
growth."...I don't think Microsoft's shareholders are thinking that...
Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $11.84 billion for the quarter
ended December 31, 2005, a 9% increase over the same period of the prior
year, marking the highest quarterly revenue in the company's history. Net
income for the quarter was $3.65 billion, which grew 5% from $3.46 billion
for the same quarter of the previous year. Diluted earnings per share for
the quarter were $0.34. Net results included $108 million, or $0.01 per
share, in tax benefits. Operating income for the quarter was $4.66 billion,
a 2% decline from the same period in the prior year reflecting in part the
impact of significant sales, marketing and product development expenses
associated with major product launches.

"Magnulus" <Magn...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Doug Jacobs

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Jan 30, 2006, 8:24:11 PM1/30/06
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In alt.games.video.xbox Magnulus <Magn...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> MS does not have unlimited pockets, this is some kind of urban myth.

Well, they don't have unlimited pockets, but when their software
department continues to basically mint money, and they have billions, in
cash, in the bank their pockets are much, much deeper than Sony's or
Nintendo's.

> Actually, Microsoft as a company is slowing down in terms of growth. They
> are not unlike in many ways... Sony. Microsoft at some point has to turn a
> profit with the XBox, or they will have to get out of videogaming and focus
> on other areas that they need to focus on.

At some point, yes. But where that point "is", is up for debate. Had
Sony experienced the same performance from their PS1 as Microsoft did with
the Xbox, I doubt there would have been a PS2. Microsoft, meanwhile,
admits to going in with the Xbox expecting it to not be profitable - much
less break even - for them. With the rest of the company doing well, they
can certainly afford to finance a long term project that might take years
before it will realize any profits.

As for their growth slowing down, remember that Microsoft's next big OS just
around the corner (well, about a year away) Corporate pre-sales alone should
put another couple billion into Microsoft's pockets.

Jonah Falcon

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Jan 30, 2006, 10:32:38 PM1/30/06
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>
> As for their growth slowing down, remember that Microsoft's next big OS
> just
> around the corner (well, about a year away) Corporate pre-sales alone
> should
> put another couple billion into Microsoft's pockets.

They'll be calling it Windows BMIO (Blig Merk is Owned).


Brenden D. Chase

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Jan 31, 2006, 12:04:41 PM1/31/06
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Nope, Windows FE (Fanboy Edition)

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