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Paul Ferguson

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Jan 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/25/00
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I am using Word 97. My tables use two columns and multiple rows. The
two cells in the first row of each table have different widths than in
the following rows, but the total width of the first row is meant to
be the same width as for the following rows.

I found setting up the first row format to be difficult. Are there
any tricks to doing this? Should I have reaaly used two tables?


My document structure is such tah document "A" containing the above
tables is pulled into another document "B" using Includetext. This
seems to work except I had trouble with a few changes appearing in the
tables after they were included in "B". Specifically the centering of
the text in the first cell of the first row was inconsistent in "B".
In document "A" where I defined the tables, the text in the first cell
of the first row is centered according to paragraph formatting. In
document "B" the formatting varies in some tables such that the text
is not centered.

Are there any know problems with formatting changing on tables when
using Includetext?.

Paul
Paul.F...@pobox.com

Cindy Meister -WordMVP-

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Hi Paul,

> I found setting up the first row format to be difficult. Are there
> any tricks to doing this? Should I have reaaly used two tables?
>

In what way did you find it difficult?



> My document structure is such tah document "A" containing the above
> tables is pulled into another document "B" using Includetext. This
> seems to work except I had trouble with a few changes appearing in the
> tables after they were included in "B". Specifically the centering of
> the text in the first cell of the first row was inconsistent in "B".
> In document "A" where I defined the tables, the text in the first cell
> of the first row is centered according to paragraph formatting. In
> document "B" the formatting varies in some tables such that the text
> is not centered.
>
> Are there any know problems with formatting changing on tables when
> using Includetext?.
>

Are both documents using the same style names? And are the style
definitions different in the two documents? In what formatting respects
do the two documents differ (margins, font size, etc.)?

In Word97, why are you using paragraph spacing to "center" the text
vertically, rather than the "center vertically" option on the TABLES
toolbar?

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister
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Paul Ferguson

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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Cindy,

>> I found setting up the first row format to be difficult. Are there
>> any tricks to doing this? Should I have reaaly used two tables?
>>
>In what way did you find it difficult?

When I adjusted the cell sizes by dragging the the cell dividing line,
the whole first row shifted to the left or right. I had a hard time
keeping the total length of the first row to be the same as the
following rows, and getting the first row left and right boundaries to
line up with the following rows.

>Are both documents using the same style names? And are the style
>definitions different in the two documents? In what formatting respects
>do the two documents differ (margins, font size, etc.)?

I think you pinpointed the problem with the formatting changing. It
seems my style names were the same, but I must have different versions
across documents. I think I need to ensure I have one version and use
it globally.


Paul
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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Maintaining the row width is tricky, and I always have to figure this out by
trial and error because I never remember which key does which, by if you
hold down Shift, Ctrl, and/or Alt while dragging, you get different results.

1. Simply dragging a cell boundary to the right adds space to the cell on
the left and subtracts it from the cell on the right.

2. Holding down shift maintains the existing column widths (except the one
to the left, which you're increasing) but increases the row width.

3. Holding down Ctrl maintains the row width, increases the column to the
left, and makes all the columns to the right of equal width.

4. Holding down Alt has the same effect as dragging without depressing any
keys but displays the column widths on the ruler bar so that you can drag to
an exact width.

Also, if you want a row or table to extend from margin to margin, you can
expand or contract it to this width by selecting the whole row or table and,
on the Column tab of Cell Height and Width, entering "a" (or any other
non-numeric character) in the width box, then pressing the down arrow and
selecting Auto.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft Word MVP
Words into Type
Fairhope, AL USA

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Phil Rabichow

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Hi Suzanne:
One reason it's so hard to remember is that Word keeps changing how it works.
In Word 6 & 7, using Shift+drag did the same that plain drag does in 97 & 2000.
And actually, holding down Ctrl+drag doesn't necessarily make the columns to
right equal width. It increases or decreases columns to the right a
proportionate amount. If they start out unequal, they'll remain unequal. Funny
thing, at least in Word 2000, if you click the column line & then press the
keys, it acts as if you didn't press any keys except the Alt key.
--
Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Yes, I should have realized that maintaining the column proportions was what
Ctrl does. I started not to give any specifics at all, then thought I ought
to specify, so I quickly experimented with my Test.doc, which contains a
table, but the column widths are equal, so I didn't notice that.
Interestingly, I went back just now to see whether you can combine Alt with
the other keys to get measurements as you drag. You can combine it with
Ctrl, but if you try to combine it with Shift, you just get a bell, which is
not very helpful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft Word MVP
Words into Type
Fairhope, AL USA

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Phil Rabichow

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> I went back just now to see whether you can combine Alt with
> the other keys to get measurements as you drag. You can combine it with
> Ctrl, but if you try to combine it with Shift, you just get a bell, which is
> not very helpful.

That's strange. In Word 2000, you can combine it with Shift. Of course, see my
reply on Macro to Searth, cut and paste to Terry. I'm beginning to think that
my Word may be unique (no pun intended <g>).
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Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Maybe you're searthing in the wrong plathe. <g>

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft Word MVP
Words into Type
Fairhope, AL USA

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