mirror margins still a problem
Steve Russell
numbers right aligned at .1" . The doc's outside mirror
margins = .5" .
The verso page left margins are wider than 1/2" for
regular text. Is it possible that the outlined number
list is forcing my regular margin inward for the rest of
the document?
I just did an experiment, changing the type of number
list, which increased its indent, and the margins seems to
be much closer to what they should be.
Suzanne S. Barnhill
indents of other paragraphs if the styles are linked.
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string of "less than" and "greater than" [<<>>] signs across the page). On
my BJ-200ex printer, the outside margins differ by more than 1/16", the left
page having the greater width. My HP Laser 4 at work gave me similar
results.
I had thought this problem was licked, and ironically, this is the very
reason I went to Word 2002 for Book fold, which disappointed me.
Any ideas? This is a showstopper for me. Thanks!
Steve Russell
I believe I have come to a final conclusion, and I wonder if you could check
some of your material to either dispute or confirm my findings (based on
experiments with LaserJet, InkJet, and Bubble Jet printers):
Word is not capable of printing outside and inside margins that truly match
the Page Setup settings. This is the case whether using Book fold or Mirror
Margins. The differences commonly hover at more or less 1/16th of an inch
(often more).
Apparently though, this difference is not enough to catch most people's eye,
especially since we're talking booklets and not books.
I have given this problem extensive attention, and it seems to me that I
have exhausted the possibilities, including playing with various settings to
try to compensate for variations.
Some consolation has come my way after measuring the outside margins of
books from various publishers -- some are highly accurate; some vary 1/32";
and some vary in the neighborhood of Microsoft Word.
I guess this is good enough.
Thank you very much.
Steve Russell
Suzanne S. Barnhill
1. Apply a page border to every page (Format | Borders and Shading).
2. In the options, set the border to From text 0 pts and deselect "Surround
header" and "Surround footer."
This will give you an outline of the margins you have set. Print several
pages, back to back if you will, and see how well they line up. My tests in
this way would tend to confirm your conclusions. I tested twice, and the
second time I ran one page back through the printer to see how well it would
print the same outline over itself; the registration of the same border
printed twice was quite precise compared to the back-to-back match, which
suggests that it is not the printer feed that is the issue.
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Words into Type
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am also concluding that Book fold gives the same results, even after all the
difficulties I had. Now, if I know the material will be printed in the
latest version of Word, I would use Book fold and only have to print once.
Bob S
<sbar...@mvps.org> wrote:
>Well, here's an easy way to test the margins:
>
>1. Apply a page border to every page (Format | Borders and Shading).
>
>2. In the options, set the border to From text 0 pts and deselect "Surround
>header" and "Surround footer."
>
>This will give you an outline of the margins you have set. Print several
>pages, back to back if you will, and see how well they line up. My tests in
>this way would tend to confirm your conclusions. I tested twice, and the
>second time I ran one page back through the printer to see how well it would
>print the same outline over itself; the registration of the same border
>printed twice was quite precise compared to the back-to-back match, which
>suggests that it is not the printer feed that is the issue.
I think that the problem is more fundamental, and has nothing
particular to do with Word.
Note that printer alignment is critical if you are doing manual
duplexing and you want double-sided printing to match on the front and
back of the page.
Imagine that your printer is aligned such that everything is printed
1/32nd inch too far right, and you have set left and right margins of
one inch. Each page will print with the left margin at 33/32nd inch
and the right margin at 31/32nd inch. When you place the pages back to
back, one of the pages has left and right margins swapped, so the
margins are mis-aligned by 1/16th inch.
(A "real" duplexing printer usually is designed to flip pages top to
bottom rather than the left to right of manual duplexing, so the
alignment problem shifts to up-down.)
If your printer has a way to adjust left-right alignment, you can use
it. Word could fix it for your specific printer if it had a "margin
alignment" feature that added a settable amount to the side margins
for odd pages and subtracted it for even pages. A printer driver could
offer the same feature, but it would have to know which were odd pages
and which were even. You can do it manually by manually changing the
inside and outside margins between printing the odd and even pages.
Bob S