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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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Undoubtedly what you're trying to do is use just a top and bottom border
and have them flush with the text. The "Distance from text" option is
available only when you have a border; i.e., the "left" measurement applies
only if you have a border on the left side. A workaround that I learned
from Katherine Shelly Pfeiffer's "Word for Windows Design Companion" is to
apply borders left and right and color them white. That way they don't
print, but you can adjust the distance from text.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Words into Type
sbar...@zebra.net

Ray Wellington

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Hi everyone,

Using the borders and shading command, Border options, I should be able to
set the distance the line extends beyond the text (default: Left =4pt
before text and Right is 4 pt past the text.)

The distance "top and bottom from text option" works OK but if you set the
Left and Right option, the measurment entered doesn't stick. i.e change left
distance before text from 4 pt to 0pt, the distance remains at 4pt.

Has anyone had this problem and is there a workaround?

Any help would be much apprciated

regards
Ray Wellington


Ray Wellington

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Hi Suzzanne,

Yes, you are correct. I use a table in the header and footer and apply a
bottom border for the header and a top border for the footer with 0cm space
between columns. This 0 spacing allows the text in the table in the header
or footer to be aligned with the end of the border (and also the text
margin).
My Heading 1 uses a top border, but the border extends beyond the text
margin and consequently doesn't line up with the borders used in the header
and footers, hence my posting. ( make sense??)

Anyway, thanks very much for the tip.

regards
Ray Wellington


Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Glad I could help, but I'm curious as to why you're using a table in the
header and footer.

Ray Wellington

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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Hi Suzanne,

I find it easier to place Header Graphics and Document Headings in a table
in the header. I think it gives me more control over placement of graphics
and text, I can easily apply any borders (generally a bottom border) and
with VBA, I can iterate through each cell of the table and apply styles,
formatting etc. I also Autotext the header/footer tables which I then
manipulate with VBA.

Would love to know if there is a better way.

thanks
regards
Ray Wellington

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Margaret Aldis

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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In article <u2bfeFJ...@uppssnewspub05.moswest.msn.net>, Ray
Wellington <ray.wel...@noel-arnold.com.au> writes

If as Suzanne says you are trying to control the relationship between
the width of the top border and the position of the text, then look also
at Cell Height and Width. In order to align the text with the end of the
border (which is determined by the grid) you need to set the "space
between columns" to zero. You'll then need to reinstate some space
_between_ columns, either by using a dummy column as a "gutter", or by
using paragraph formatting to position (e.g. give second column
paragraphs an indent).

HTH
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Margaret Aldis, Syntagma, e-mail marg...@syntagma.demon.co.uk

"Civilisation advances by extending the number of important
operations which we can perform without thinking about them.
Operations of thought are like cavalry charges in battle - they are
strictly limited in number, they require fresh horses, and must
only be made at decisive moments." A N Whitehead

Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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Since VBA is just another acronym to me, you're obviously way ahead of me!
I agree that tables are often the easiest way to arrange things. I guess
you do know, too, that you can control not only the width of the table but
also the spacing between cells (which affects the amount of excess border
on each side), so that would be another approach to getting your header the
same width as the paragraph borders. I hate to admit it, but that is one of
the few areas in which WordPerfect is superior; though sometimes more
cumbersome, it is more flexible, as it permits adjusting cell spacing on
all four sides independently for any given cell.
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