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mac...@gmail.com

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May 1, 2014, 4:46:38 AM5/1/14
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Worked like a charm:

> >> For each affected section, look in the Page Number Format dialog box. Make
> >> sure that "Continue from previous section" is selected (and not "Start
> >> at").



On Friday, 4 June 2010 18:29:04 UTC+1, Stefan Blom wrote:
> I'm glad I could help!
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
> (Message posted via msnews.microsoft.com)
>
>
>
> "KMM" <K...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EC0789F0-C8C9-478E...@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you, thank you!
> >
> > Sorry, I missed your post earlier and just saw the one below.
> >
> > It worked like a charm! But, of course, you knew it would!
> >
> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >
> >> For each affected section, look in the Page Number Format dialog box. Make
> >> sure
> >> that "Continue from previous section" is selected (and not "Start at").
> >>
> >> To display the dialog box: In Word 2007, double-click a header to activate
> >> it.
> >> Then click Header & Footer Tools tab | Page Number | Format Page Numbers. If
> >> you
> >> are using Word 97-2003, click the Format Page Number button on the Header and
> >> Footer toolbar.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stefan Blom
> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >> (Message posted via news.eternal-september.org)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "KMM" <K...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D0141A48-B9D2-4729...@microsoft.com...
> >> > Okay. But I don't have any page numbers in the document. I only see the
> >> > ones
> >> > in the Word "frame" that are showing for any Word document. How would that
> >> > be
> >> > formatted? I thought that was just Word keeping track of how many pages are
> >> > in the doc. How do I get rid of that blank 4th and blank 6th page that I
> >> > can't get to?
> >> >
> >> > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The "issue" is caused by the page numbers being formatted to start at 1
> >> >> rather than continue from the previous section.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Hope this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> >> >> services on a paid consulting basis.
> >> >>
> >> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "KMM" <K...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:A3CA0E06-2E7C-4CA0...@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > I pulled the first part, where I've having the problem and put it on
> >> >> > Dropio.com. You can see it here. The whole doc is 93 pages, but the
> >> >> > problem
> >> >> > is just he "hidden" page 4 and page 6. I left the table that follows the
> >> >> > section after page 6 in case that is important, but deleted the info in
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > because it was full of people's names and emails. The reason for the
> >> >> > section
> >> >> > breaks in nearly all my cases is change in header. These pages are
> >> >> > appendices
> >> >> > for a report.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://drop.io/WordHelp
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "KMM" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I have a few section breaks that are causing hidden blank pages. I've
> >> >> >> triple
> >> >> >> checked that these breaks are marked as next page (it even says it in
> >> >> >> parentheses next to the section break mark). I've also gone to the
> >> >> >> following
> >> >> >> section and looked on the layout tab and it says "next page". Can
> >> >> >> anyone
> >> >> >> tell
> >> >> >> me why? I tried just putting a new section break in, but it went from
> >> >> >> page 3
> >> >> >> to 5 also. It has happed 3 times in my document. The other 8 sections
> >> >> >> breaks
> >> >> >> seem to be fine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> THanks!
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>

Stefan Blom

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May 1, 2014, 12:48:36 PM5/1/14
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Well, it's been a number of years, but I'm still glad I could help. :-)

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KMM

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Jun 3, 2010, 7:06:44 PM6/3/10
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Doug Robbins - Word MVP

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Jun 3, 2010, 8:33:21 PM6/3/10
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Check the formatting of the first paragraph after the Section Break. Is it
formatted to have a Page Break before it?


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Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com

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Jun 3, 2010, 8:42:03 PM6/3/10
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What do you mean by hidden blank pages? I mean if you can't see them, how do
you how they re there?

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KMM

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Jun 3, 2010, 9:32:42 PM6/3/10
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I don't know how to check that. I looked under Paragraph Formatting and I
don't see anything there. How would you format it to have a Page Break
before?

Thanks for the quick response, by the way!

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

KMM

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Jun 3, 2010, 9:40:34 PM6/3/10
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I can tell a few ways. When I look in the bottom left corner of the Word
frame, where it tells you what page you're on, it goes from page 3 to 5 in
one case.

I plan on printing this two sided, and want to leave inside margin larger
for three hole punch, so I have mirror page formatting with a larger margin
on the inside and I am missing the opposite margin page.

And while you don't see thee missing page in any of the Views in Word, if
you do a Print Preview, you see the hidden ones.

Thanks.

> .
>

Peter T. Daniels

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:13:35 PM6/3/10
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If the back sides (the even-numbered pages) are completely blank, you
won't see them in Word except in Print Preview. Sounds like it's
behaving exactly as you need it to.

Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:33:07 PM6/3/10
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See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/BlankPage.htm

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KMM

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Jun 3, 2010, 11:17:45 PM6/3/10
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But I don't want the blank page. I want to know how to get rid of it. I
suppose I should have included that fact in my initial post. I can't figure
out how to "get to it" to get rid of it.

Thanks.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

> .
>

KMM

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Jun 3, 2010, 11:29:45 PM6/3/10
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Thanks. But I think I've gone through these ideas before I even posted.

1. As a default, I always have my non-printing characters visible (I'm just
nerdy that way), so I don't think there are any unknown paragraph returns in
there...that I can see, anyway. As I said, I can't figure out how to "see"
page 4 in a View (other than the blacnk page in print preview) to see if
there is anything there.

2. I am certain that the Section Breaks are New Page ones. I am confident I
inserted them that way, and when I go back and check them, they are labelled
that way. And when I go to the layout tab it says "new page".

3. COULD BE IMPORTANT! -- I thought the answer was there when it said that
this can happen when the next section changes to landscape. In one of these
instances, that was the case (I've since deleted that landscape section). So
I double checked again, because it said it will sometimes change a New Page
Section Break to an Odd Page one. But as I said, these all seem to be marked
as New Page.

4. Blank pages not caused by Word...I looked through the printer settings
and didn't see anything referring to a separator page or anything similar. I
have an HP Photosmart, but didn't see anything in there that looked like it
could be the culprit.

Ugghhh. So frustrating!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> .
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jun 3, 2010, 11:49:28 PM6/3/10
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If you created the document yourself, then this would be a very long shot,
but check the first paragraph on the page after the blank and make sure it's
not formatted as "Page break before." Also make sure that you're in the
right section when you check the section start type (it should be the one
*after* the break).

If all else fails, I'll be happy to look at the document (or a portion of
it) if you want to email it to me.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

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KMM

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Jun 4, 2010, 12:20:54 AM6/4/10
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I pulled the first part, where I've having the problem and put it on
Dropio.com. You can see it here. The whole doc is 93 pages, but the problem
is just he "hidden" page 4 and page 6. I left the table that follows the
section after page 6 in case that is important, but deleted the info in it
because it was full of people's names and emails. The reason for the section
breaks in nearly all my cases is change in header. These pages are appendices
for a report.

http://drop.io/WordHelp

Thanks.

KMM

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Jun 4, 2010, 12:52:56 AM6/4/10
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Thanks. I checked that. If I'm looking in the right place...Format paragraph
and the tab "Line and page breaks". That box is not checked.

I'd love to email it to you. I'm not sure how to do that. I've also posted
the problem pages on www.dropio.com/WordHelp. You can see it there, too. If
you prefer I email it, let me know how I can do that.

I admit, though, I'm heading to bed now, so won't check this again until
about 7:30 MST tomorrow.

Thanks so much!


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> .
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Doug Robbins - Word MVP

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Jun 4, 2010, 1:08:35 AM6/4/10
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The "issue" is caused by the page numbers being formatted to start at 1
rather than continue from the previous section.

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services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jun 4, 2010, 8:39:01 AM6/4/10
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Yes, that will do it. Word insists on putting 1 on a recto page.

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KMM

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Jun 4, 2010, 9:07:30 AM6/4/10
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Okay. But I don't have any page numbers in the document. I only see the ones
in the Word "frame" that are showing for any Word document. How would that be
formatted? I thought that was just Word keeping track of how many pages are
in the doc. How do I get rid of that blank 4th and blank 6th page that I
can't get to?

Stefan Blom

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Jun 4, 2010, 9:19:41 AM6/4/10
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For each affected section, look in the Page Number Format dialog box. Make sure
that "Continue from previous section" is selected (and not "Start at").

To display the dialog box: In Word 2007, double-click a header to activate it.
Then click Header & Footer Tools tab | Page Number | Format Page Numbers. If you
are using Word 97-2003, click the Format Page Number button on the Header and
Footer toolbar.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
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KMM

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Jun 4, 2010, 9:33:21 AM6/4/10
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How do I do it? I see when I right click on the pages numbers, that even
though it's page 5 in the Word frame, the box that comes up says "Formatted
Page 1".

How do I get it to paginate continuously? And when I do that, will page 4
and page 6 disappear?

It sounds like you all may have discovered the cause, but how to I fix it
and what happened to make it happen?

Thanks!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> .
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Jun 4, 2010, 10:13:17 AM6/4/10
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Stefan has explained this, I believe.

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KMM

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Jun 4, 2010, 11:04:27 AM6/4/10
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Thank you, thank you!

Sorry, I missed your post earlier and just saw the one below.

It worked like a charm! But, of course, you knew it would!

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

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Stefan Blom

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I'm glad I could help!

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an...@branka.design

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This worked for me! Thank you so much! I went into "Insert > Page Number > Format Page Numbers" and clicked on "Continue from Previous Section" for the page before and after the section break. Now, the total number count is showing the CORRECT number of pages.

saar.l...@gmail.com

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It didn't work for me. I have the same problem - when I print and the next section is in portraite format everything is fine, but when I change it into landscape, it adds a blank page.

Jurgita Serniute

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FOR ME AS WELL! GOD BLESS YOU!!! I WAS LOOKING FOR THE ANSWER SOOOOOOO LONG!!! YOU ARE A LIFESAVER :) LET THE DAY BE AMAZING TO YOU :)
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