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Last DirectX for WinXP SP3 x86? 9.0c or 9.0d?
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Greegor
Nov 29, 2012, 8:34:15 AM11/29/12
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When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
I got a "runtime redistributable" and installed it
but some instructions I found for confirming the
version installed on a machine required using
DXDIAG which is NOT in the "runtime redistributable".
So then I looked at a MS page with a September 8 2009
SDK package and noticed this:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=23549
[ some ways down ... ]
August 2009 D3D9D.dll is Versioned for Windows XP SP2
The D3D9D.dll that is included in the August 2009 DirectX SDK is
versioned for Windows XP SP2. If you use this DLL on Windows
XP SP3 with an application that uses the Windows Presentation
Framework (WPF), the code in the DLL will assert. This issue
does not occur on Windows Vista or Windows 7. If you require
only debug output, that is you do not require symbols, you could
also use the checked version of D3D9.dll, which is compatible
with Windows XP SP3. Just rename the checked D3D9.dll to
D3D9D.dll. The checked version of D3D9.dll is available to
MSDN subscribers.
---------------------------------
Can somebody help me interpret this mess?
D3D9D stands for DirectX 3D version 9D correct?
Does this mean that the last version of
DirectX for Windows XP is actually
DirectX 9.0d with 3D?
Or is this D39D.dll actually a sub part of Direct X?
Is it possible that 9.0c is the last version but that
a sub-part was updated inside of that?
What the heck IS Windows Presentation Framework
this D3D9D upstages or "asserts" over?
WPF is not an early (2009) term for .NET Framework is it?
Can anybody give me a definitive answer about whether
9.0c or 9.0d (D3D9D.DLL) is the last DirectX for
WinXP Pro SP3 x86?
I've given up on .NET Framework 1,2,3.0,3.5,4 finally but
does the way this D3D9D.dll "asserts" have any implications
for people running the .NET Framework monstrosity?
Are DirectX 9.0c or DirectX 9.0d being pushed by Microsoft Update
site?
that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
I got a "runtime redistributable" and installed it
but some instructions I found for confirming the
version installed on a machine required using
DXDIAG which is NOT in the "runtime redistributable".
So then I looked at a MS page with a September 8 2009
SDK package and noticed this:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=23549
[ some ways down ... ]
August 2009 D3D9D.dll is Versioned for Windows XP SP2
The D3D9D.dll that is included in the August 2009 DirectX SDK is
versioned for Windows XP SP2. If you use this DLL on Windows
XP SP3 with an application that uses the Windows Presentation
Framework (WPF), the code in the DLL will assert. This issue
does not occur on Windows Vista or Windows 7. If you require
only debug output, that is you do not require symbols, you could
also use the checked version of D3D9.dll, which is compatible
with Windows XP SP3. Just rename the checked D3D9.dll to
D3D9D.dll. The checked version of D3D9.dll is available to
MSDN subscribers.
---------------------------------
Can somebody help me interpret this mess?
D3D9D stands for DirectX 3D version 9D correct?
Does this mean that the last version of
DirectX for Windows XP is actually
DirectX 9.0d with 3D?
Or is this D39D.dll actually a sub part of Direct X?
Is it possible that 9.0c is the last version but that
a sub-part was updated inside of that?
What the heck IS Windows Presentation Framework
this D3D9D upstages or "asserts" over?
WPF is not an early (2009) term for .NET Framework is it?
Can anybody give me a definitive answer about whether
9.0c or 9.0d (D3D9D.DLL) is the last DirectX for
WinXP Pro SP3 x86?
I've given up on .NET Framework 1,2,3.0,3.5,4 finally but
does the way this D3D9D.dll "asserts" have any implications
for people running the .NET Framework monstrosity?
Are DirectX 9.0c or DirectX 9.0d being pushed by Microsoft Update
site?
David H. Lipman
Nov 29, 2012, 9:11:36 AM11/29/12
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From: "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com>
> When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
> that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
>
Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news groups and not one is a
m.p.directx.* news group ? They exist!
For example:
What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment have to with an update of an OS
sub-component ?
--
Dave
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> When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
> that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
>
m.p.directx.* news group ? They exist!
For example:
What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment have to with an update of an OS
sub-component ?
--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Greegor
Nov 29, 2012, 9:27:56 AM11/29/12
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On Nov 29, 8:11 am, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> From: "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com>
with setting up a Microsoft windows component called
DirectX?
Surely you jest.
Every usenet group on the list is about Windows XP.
As I assume you KNOW, Windows XP support is
coming to a close next year.
On top of that, usenet newsgroups have been
collapsing for lack of use. Usenet itself is fading as well.
Rounding up the last and best versions of
Windows installs and updates should be of
interest to anybody associated with Windows XP.
If you're going to just walk away from Windows XP
then why would you care about these issues?
wrote:
> From: "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com>
>
> > When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
> > that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
>
> Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news groups and not one is a
> m.p.directx.* news group ? They exist!
>
> For example:
> What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment have to with an update of an OS
> sub-component ?
What would Windows XP setup and deployment have to do
> > When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
> > that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
>
> Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news groups and not one is a
> m.p.directx.* news group ? They exist!
>
> For example:
> What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment have to with an update of an OS
> sub-component ?
with setting up a Microsoft windows component called
DirectX?
Surely you jest.
Every usenet group on the list is about Windows XP.
As I assume you KNOW, Windows XP support is
coming to a close next year.
On top of that, usenet newsgroups have been
collapsing for lack of use. Usenet itself is fading as well.
Rounding up the last and best versions of
Windows installs and updates should be of
interest to anybody associated with Windows XP.
If you're going to just walk away from Windows XP
then why would you care about these issues?
David H. Lipman
Nov 29, 2012, 9:57:48 AM11/29/12
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From: "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com>
> On Nov 29, 8:11 am, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
>> From: "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
>>> that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
>>
>> Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news groups and not one is a
>> m.p.directx.* news group ? They exist!
>>
>> For example:
>> What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment have to with an update of an
>> OS
>> sub-component ?
>
> What would Windows XP setup and deployment have to do
> with setting up a Microsoft windows component called
> DirectX?
>
> Surely you jest.
No. This is NOT a case of yolu installing Windows XP from scratch nor
deploying WinXP in an evironment. You are discussing updating a
sub-component of WinXP (that happens to exist in multiple OS versions ) and
thus m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment is not a valid news group.
>
> Every usenet group on the list is about Windows XP.
That doesn't make it correct to post to all of them and you failed to even
post in the m.p.directx.* hierarchy. If you are going to discuss DirectX
under XP the look under m.p.directx.* for an appropriate news group.
>
> As I assume you KNOW, Windows XP support is
> coming to a close next
> year.
>
That's a moot point.
> On Nov 29, 8:11 am, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
>> From: "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
>>> that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
>>
>> Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news groups and not one is a
>> m.p.directx.* news group ? They exist!
>>
>> For example:
>> What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment have to with an update of an
>> OS
>> sub-component ?
>
> What would Windows XP setup and deployment have to do
> with setting up a Microsoft windows component called
> DirectX?
>
> Surely you jest.
deploying WinXP in an evironment. You are discussing updating a
sub-component of WinXP (that happens to exist in multiple OS versions ) and
thus m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment is not a valid news group.
>
> Every usenet group on the list is about Windows XP.
post in the m.p.directx.* hierarchy. If you are going to discuss DirectX
under XP the look under m.p.directx.* for an appropriate news group.
>
> As I assume you KNOW, Windows XP support is
> coming to a close next
> year.
>
John Smith
Nov 29, 2012, 11:29:53 AM11/29/12
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"Greegor"
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)for Win-DXP SP3
< http://www.falconfly.de/directx.htm >
All DirectX Drives here.........
DirectX 9.0c After Updates::
------------------
DirectX Components
------------------
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:34 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 5.04.0000.3900 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:25 2676224 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.04.0091.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:27 2846720 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:28 563712 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:29 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.07.0239.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:29 576000 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.08.0299.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:30 577024 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.09.0376.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:31 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.10.0455.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:31 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.11.0519.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:32 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.12.0589.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:35 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:35 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:35 159232 bytes
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ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 18:11:51 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/10/2004 06:00:00 10496 bytes
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DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)for Win-DXP SP3
< http://www.falconfly.de/directx.htm >
All DirectX Drives here.........
DirectX 9.0c After Updates::
------------------
DirectX Components
------------------
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:34 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 5.04.0000.3900 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:25 2676224 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.04.0091.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:27 2846720 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:28 563712 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:29 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.07.0239.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:29 576000 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.08.0299.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:30 577024 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.09.0376.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:31 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.10.0455.0000 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:31 577536 bytes
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Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:35 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/25/2012 16:17:35 159232 bytes
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Greegor
Nov 29, 2012, 2:30:19 PM11/29/12
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G > When I went to find the latest DirectX it appeared
G > that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
DHL > Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news
DHL > groups and not one is a m.p.directx.* news
DHL > group ? They exist!
DHL > For example:
DHL > What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment
DHL > have to with an update of an OS sub-component ?
G > What would Windows XP setup and deployment
G > have to do with setting up a Microsoft windows
G > component called DirectX?
G > Surely you jest.
DHL > This is NOT a case of [you] installing
DHL > Windows XP from scratch nor deploying
DHL > WinXP in an evironment.
Perhaps not in the traditional IT sense of operating
a corporate update server and pushing everything
from there to each machine... However, I'm
trying to build an ideal "master" for cloning
to my little "fleet" of identical OEM computers.
DHL > You are discussing updating a
DHL > sub-component of WinXP (that happens
DHL > to exist in multiple OS versions ) and
DHL > thus m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment
DHL > is not a valid news group.
Even if it were not as extremely OS dependent
as it is, I would still disagree with your view.
G > Every usenet group on the list is about Windows XP.
DHL > That doesn't make it correct to post to all
DHL > of them and you failed to even post in the
DHL > m.p.directx.* hierarchy. If you are going to
DHL > discuss DirectX under XP [then] look under
DHL > m.p.directx.* for an appropriate news group.
Perhaps you are approaching this as a software
developer based on the platform this creates.
You suggest approaching it beginning as a platform.
I am approaching this as a user and see it only
as a necessity extension of WinXP for general
functionality.
If somebody is trying to build a good general-purpose
master system to clone, you would force them
to go to specific usenet groups for each of the
little extensions like Adobe, Java, Codecs, MSE, etc.
Aren't you being a rediculous purist in that sense?
The hierarchy options under microsoft.public.directx:
graphics audio video misc input_devices and
app_compat ( last post May 7 2010 )
( d3dx9_38.dll was discussed in 2008 relative to 64 bit XP )
( D3D9D.dll on XP was apparently only a DEBUG version, in SDK.)
G > As I assume you KNOW, Windows XP support is
G > coming to a close next year.
DHL > That's a moot point.
I disagree. I think that's a GIGANTIC point!
G > On top of that, usenet newsgroups have been
G > collapsing for lack of use. Usenet itself is fading as well.
G >
G > Rounding up the last and best versions of
G > Windows installs and updates should be of
G > interest to anybody associated with Windows XP.
G >
G > If you're going to just walk away from Windows XP
G > then why would you care about these issues?
Context restored at no charge.
Thanks for your help, David.
Apparently the DXDIAG.EXE utility is in C:/WINDOWS/System32
and shows that WinXP Pro SP3 x86 has 9.0c as standard.
I made the mistake before of searching for DXDIAG using the
built in SEARCH for files function which was not indexing
system and hidden files. I'm working on that.
G > that 9.0c was the last "vintage" for WinXP.
DHL > Why are you Multi-Posting to all those news
DHL > groups and not one is a m.p.directx.* news
DHL > group ? They exist!
DHL > For example:
DHL > What does m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment
DHL > have to with an update of an OS sub-component ?
G > What would Windows XP setup and deployment
G > have to do with setting up a Microsoft windows
G > component called DirectX?
G > Surely you jest.
DHL > This is NOT a case of [you] installing
DHL > Windows XP from scratch nor deploying
DHL > WinXP in an evironment.
Perhaps not in the traditional IT sense of operating
a corporate update server and pushing everything
from there to each machine... However, I'm
trying to build an ideal "master" for cloning
to my little "fleet" of identical OEM computers.
DHL > You are discussing updating a
DHL > sub-component of WinXP (that happens
DHL > to exist in multiple OS versions ) and
DHL > thus m.p.windowsxp.setup_deployment
DHL > is not a valid news group.
Even if it were not as extremely OS dependent
as it is, I would still disagree with your view.
G > Every usenet group on the list is about Windows XP.
DHL > That doesn't make it correct to post to all
DHL > of them and you failed to even post in the
DHL > m.p.directx.* hierarchy. If you are going to
DHL > discuss DirectX under XP [then] look under
DHL > m.p.directx.* for an appropriate news group.
Perhaps you are approaching this as a software
developer based on the platform this creates.
You suggest approaching it beginning as a platform.
I am approaching this as a user and see it only
as a necessity extension of WinXP for general
functionality.
If somebody is trying to build a good general-purpose
master system to clone, you would force them
to go to specific usenet groups for each of the
little extensions like Adobe, Java, Codecs, MSE, etc.
Aren't you being a rediculous purist in that sense?
The hierarchy options under microsoft.public.directx:
graphics audio video misc input_devices and
app_compat ( last post May 7 2010 )
( d3dx9_38.dll was discussed in 2008 relative to 64 bit XP )
( D3D9D.dll on XP was apparently only a DEBUG version, in SDK.)
G > As I assume you KNOW, Windows XP support is
G > coming to a close next year.
DHL > That's a moot point.
I disagree. I think that's a GIGANTIC point!
G > On top of that, usenet newsgroups have been
G > collapsing for lack of use. Usenet itself is fading as well.
G >
G > Rounding up the last and best versions of
G > Windows installs and updates should be of
G > interest to anybody associated with Windows XP.
G >
G > If you're going to just walk away from Windows XP
G > then why would you care about these issues?
Context restored at no charge.
Thanks for your help, David.
Apparently the DXDIAG.EXE utility is in C:/WINDOWS/System32
and shows that WinXP Pro SP3 x86 has 9.0c as standard.
I made the mistake before of searching for DXDIAG using the
built in SEARCH for files function which was not indexing
system and hidden files. I'm working on that.
John Smith
Nov 29, 2012, 4:11:51 PM11/29/12
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"John Smith" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:k982i4$sm7$1...@news.mixmin.net...
< http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Diagnosing-basic-problems-with-DirectX >
DirectX 10 for Xp here!
DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
Version: 9.29.1974 Date published: 4/18/2011
< http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35 >
Windows 7 is DirectX 11
> "Greegor"
>
> DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)for Win-DXP SP3
>
> < http://www.falconfly.de/directx.htm >
> All DirectX Drives here.........
>
No 9.0d
>
> DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)for Win-DXP SP3
>
> < http://www.falconfly.de/directx.htm >
> All DirectX Drives here.........
>
< http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Diagnosing-basic-problems-with-DirectX >
DirectX 10 for Xp here!
DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
Version: 9.29.1974 Date published: 4/18/2011
< http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35 >
Windows 7 is DirectX 11
John Smith
Nov 29, 2012, 4:15:20 PM11/29/12
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David H. Lipman
if Greegor kill file
he will miss out on;;
DirectX-10 for WinXP SP3 x86!
if Greegor kill file
he will miss out on;;
DirectX-10 for WinXP SP3 x86!
Greegor
Nov 29, 2012, 4:34:45 PM11/29/12
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> > DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)for Win-DXP SP3
>
> > <http://www.falconfly.de/directx.htm>
> > All DirectX Drives here.........
>
> No 9.0d
> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Diagnosing-basic-problems...>
>
> > <http://www.falconfly.de/directx.htm>
> > All DirectX Drives here.........
>
> No 9.0d
Yup, 9.0d appears to be a diagnostic version.
> DirectX 10 for Xp here!
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35
DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
previous versions of DirectX — the core Windows® technology that
drives high-speed multimedia and games on the PC.
Version: 9.29.1974 Date published: 4/18/2011 dxwebsetup.exe 286 KB
Redistributable version of same update:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109
DirectX End-User Runtimes (June
2010)ShareEmailHotmailBloggerAOLFacebook
This download provides the DirectX end-user redistributable that
developers can include with their product.
Quick details
Version: 9.29.1974 Date published: 4/18/2011
directx_Jun2010_redist.exe 95.6 MB
JJ
Nov 29, 2012, 6:24:18 PM11/29/12
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"John Smith" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> DirectX 10 for Xp here!
>
> DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
> Version: 9.29.1974 Date published: 4/18/2011
> < http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35 >
DirectX 10 for XP isn't officially exist. The one available on the net are
> DirectX 10 for Xp here!
>
> DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
> Version: 9.29.1974 Date published: 4/18/2011
> < http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35 >
hacked installation from the official DirectX 10 for Vista+, which
apparently, some of the DLL files are still usable in XP and are manually
repacked in a ZIP file and some are in a third party installer.
Also that link is for DirectX 9.0c (June 2010) version 9.29.1974 whose full
installer is at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109
John Smith
Nov 30, 2012, 4:59:07 PM11/30/12
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"Greegor"
you ben coming up with good info on your own..
Keep up to good work ;)
you ben coming up with good info on your own..
Keep up to good work ;)
Greegor
Dec 2, 2012, 1:49:35 AM12/2/12
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That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Ant
Dec 2, 2012, 2:02:41 PM12/2/12
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On 12/1/2012 10:49 PM PT, Greegor typed:
> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
--
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( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.
> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
--
"She's got ants in her pants." --unknown
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site)
/ /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net
| |o o| |
\ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.
( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.
John Smith
Dec 2, 2012, 4:29:21 PM12/2/12
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:127f2625-c40e-48ae...@r10g2000pbd.googlegroups.com...
--
Always turning on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP.
Faulty uninstall files.
Now you need to know how to use MS Fix-It
< http://fixitcenter.support.microsoft.com/Portal >
> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
> Thanks!
If it not from www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/ it not for windows....
> Thanks!
--
Always turning on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP.
Faulty uninstall files.
Now you need to know how to use MS Fix-It
< http://fixitcenter.support.microsoft.com/Portal >
John Smith
Dec 2, 2012, 8:29:12 PM12/2/12
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"Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:t5ednduv0fBMOCbN...@earthlink.com...
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0)
Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0
SeaMonkey/2.14
It would help,
If you would get,
Windows XP: Home,
Professional,
Media Center OS,
First,
Ant with Linux OS...
> On 12/1/2012 10:49 PM PT, Greegor typed:
>
>> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
>
> Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
From: Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>
>
>> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
>
> Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0)
Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0
SeaMonkey/2.14
It would help,
If you would get,
Windows XP: Home,
Professional,
Media Center OS,
First,
Ant with Linux OS...
Steve Urbach
Dec 2, 2012, 8:44:56 PM12/2/12
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NT5.1 is Windows. Firefox (and Mozilla) is multi-platform
Ant
Dec 2, 2012, 8:47:58 PM12/2/12
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On 12/2/2012 5:29 PM PT, John Smith typed:
I do have remote and local Linux and Mac OS X machines. Windows is my
primary one. :)
--
"To the ant, a few drops of dew is a flood." --Iranian
primary one. :)
--
"To the ant, a few drops of dew is a flood." --Iranian
Greegor
Dec 2, 2012, 9:34:05 PM12/2/12
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G > That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is
interesting.
Ant > Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
interesting.
Nope.
John Smith
Dec 5, 2012, 11:11:35 PM12/5/12
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"Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:d6ydnakLae9QmSHN...@earthlink.com...
Believe all you have is a Windows,
I see the Linux post here,
But I did not know
or see the Mac OS X here..
So you use the Mac to make Software... ;)
> On 12/2/2012 5:29 PM PT, John Smith typed:
>
>> "Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message
>> news:t5ednduv0fBMOCbN...@earthlink.com...
>>> On 12/1/2012 10:49 PM PT, Greegor typed:
>>>
>>>> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
>>>
>>> Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
>>
>> From: Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
>> (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14
>>
>> It would help, If you would get, Windows XP: Home, Professional, Media
>> Center OS, First, Ant with Linux OS...
>
> I do have remote and local Linux and Mac OS X machines. Windows is my
> primary one. :)
Steve Urbach
>
>> "Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message
>> news:t5ednduv0fBMOCbN...@earthlink.com...
>>> On 12/1/2012 10:49 PM PT, Greegor typed:
>>>
>>>> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
>>>
>>> Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
>>
>> From: Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
>> (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14
>>
>> It would help, If you would get, Windows XP: Home, Professional, Media
>> Center OS, First, Ant with Linux OS...
>
> I do have remote and local Linux and Mac OS X machines. Windows is my
> primary one. :)
Believe all you have is a Windows,
I see the Linux post here,
But I did not know
or see the Mac OS X here..
So you use the Mac to make Software... ;)
John Smith
Dec 5, 2012, 11:21:03 PM12/5/12
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b801c80d-732e-4da8...@6g2000pbh.googlegroups.com...
Ant will open it up,
like a can of StarKisk,
just to see if it is,
Chunk Light Tuna,
or just a CatFish
like a can of StarKisk,
just to see if it is,
Chunk Light Tuna,
or just a CatFish
Steve Urbach
Dec 6, 2012, 4:37:09 AM12/6/12
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ANT says he DOES have other systems.
I only have W and L
I post with Agent, which integrates best with W (URL links are a PITA with
Wine, which want to run a Windows browser, instead of allowing URL's in
messages to be handled by the primary OS's browser. Maintaining bookmarks over
3 browsers is a royal PITA )
John Smith
Dec 7, 2012, 8:24:25 AM12/7/12
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"Steve Urbach" <drago...@NOTmindspring.com> wrote in message news:ofp0c8hvr84h2ktru...@4ax.com...
but the right person read it.... ;)
> ANT says he DOES have other systems.
> I only have W and L
On the same machine?
> I post with Agent, which integrates best with W (URL links are a PITA with
> Wine, which want to run a Windows browser, instead of allowing URL's in
> messages to be handled by the primary OS's browser. Maintaining bookmarks over
> 3 browsers is a royal PITA )
use WLM for eternal-september.org,
it's a Sweet KITA..
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:11:35 -0600, "John Smith" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>"Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:d6ydnakLae9QmSHN...@earthlink.com...
>>> On 12/2/2012 5:29 PM PT, John Smith typed:
>>>
>>>> "Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message
>>>> news:t5ednduv0fBMOCbN...@earthlink.com...
>>>>> On 12/1/2012 10:49 PM PT, Greegor typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
>>>>
>>>> From: Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>
>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
>>>> (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14
>>>>
>>>> It would help, If you would get, Windows XP: Home, Professional, Media
>>>> Center OS, First, Ant with Linux OS...
>>>
>>> I do have remote and local Linux and Mac OS X machines. Windows is my
>>> primary one. :)
>>
>>Steve Urbach
>>Believe all you have is a Windows,
>>
>>I see the Linux post here,
>>But I did not know
>>or see the Mac OS X here..
>>
>>So you use the Mac to make Software... ;)
>>
> You replied to the wrong person.
No Steve I posted a reply to ANT,
>
>>"Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:d6ydnakLae9QmSHN...@earthlink.com...
>>> On 12/2/2012 5:29 PM PT, John Smith typed:
>>>
>>>> "Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote in message
>>>> news:t5ednduv0fBMOCbN...@earthlink.com...
>>>>> On 12/1/2012 10:49 PM PT, Greegor typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That stuff you posted about an unofficial DirectX 10 is interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you going to use it? [grin] I wouldn't.
>>>>
>>>> From: Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>
>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
>>>> (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14
>>>>
>>>> It would help, If you would get, Windows XP: Home, Professional, Media
>>>> Center OS, First, Ant with Linux OS...
>>>
>>> I do have remote and local Linux and Mac OS X machines. Windows is my
>>> primary one. :)
>>
>>Steve Urbach
>>Believe all you have is a Windows,
>>
>>I see the Linux post here,
>>But I did not know
>>or see the Mac OS X here..
>>
>>So you use the Mac to make Software... ;)
>>
> You replied to the wrong person.
but the right person read it.... ;)
> ANT says he DOES have other systems.
> I only have W and L
> I post with Agent, which integrates best with W (URL links are a PITA with
> Wine, which want to run a Windows browser, instead of allowing URL's in
> messages to be handled by the primary OS's browser. Maintaining bookmarks over
> 3 browsers is a royal PITA )
it's a Sweet KITA..
Steve Urbach
Dec 7, 2012, 9:44:38 AM12/7/12
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post and it appeared you were addressing me.. Scrolling to the top, I see
'Ant' as the replyto.
John Smith
Dec 7, 2012, 7:43:19 PM12/7/12
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Steve it ok I like here from you too.......
Greegor
Jan 4, 2013, 12:53:39 AM1/4/13
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OK, I'm firmly convinced that for Win XP, DirectX 9.0c is the
latest installable DirectX module.
But I got a casual (easy) game collection CD for the holidays
that is for Windows XP, but requires DIRECTX 9.0
in the video card and didn't like the 9.0c SW module.
I also looked into video cards to possibly upgrade
enough to run W7 or W8 fairly well and noticed
that various video cards have DIRECTX 10 or ? in them.
Apparently this opens the door to having Direct X 10 or 11
on a Windows XP computer.
Why would DIRECTX 9.0 in a vid card work better
than the DirectX 9.0c software module for a game?
Is there a lot of other software that runs on WinXP
but can even use DIRECTX 10 (in video hardware)?
It's not like these are slow computers where
software DirectX runs slow or anything...
Is hardware DIRECTX 10 or 11 fairly common
for on board video in newer mother boards?
latest installable DirectX module.
But I got a casual (easy) game collection CD for the holidays
that is for Windows XP, but requires DIRECTX 9.0
in the video card and didn't like the 9.0c SW module.
I also looked into video cards to possibly upgrade
enough to run W7 or W8 fairly well and noticed
that various video cards have DIRECTX 10 or ? in them.
Apparently this opens the door to having Direct X 10 or 11
on a Windows XP computer.
Why would DIRECTX 9.0 in a vid card work better
than the DirectX 9.0c software module for a game?
Is there a lot of other software that runs on WinXP
but can even use DIRECTX 10 (in video hardware)?
It's not like these are slow computers where
software DirectX runs slow or anything...
Is hardware DIRECTX 10 or 11 fairly common
for on board video in newer mother boards?
Paul
Jan 4, 2013, 1:35:17 AM1/4/13
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Greegor wrote:
> OK, I'm firmly convinced that for Win XP, DirectX 9.0c is the
> latest installable DirectX module.
>
> But I got a casual (easy) game collection CD for the holidays
> that is for Windows XP, but requires DIRECTX 9.0
> in the video card and didn't like the 9.0c SW module.
>
> I also looked into video cards to possibly upgrade
> enough to run W7 or W8 fairly well and noticed
> that various video cards have DIRECTX 10 or ? in them.
>
> Apparently this opens the door to having Direct X 10 or 11
> on a Windows XP computer.
No, it does not.
> OK, I'm firmly convinced that for Win XP, DirectX 9.0c is the
> latest installable DirectX module.
>
> But I got a casual (easy) game collection CD for the holidays
> that is for Windows XP, but requires DIRECTX 9.0
> in the video card and didn't like the 9.0c SW module.
>
> I also looked into video cards to possibly upgrade
> enough to run W7 or W8 fairly well and noticed
> that various video cards have DIRECTX 10 or ? in them.
>
> Apparently this opens the door to having Direct X 10 or 11
> on a Windows XP computer.
The door remains firmly shut on WinXP users.
They get DirectX 9.0c, as their named standard.
DirectX 10 and 11 are an architectural change. As to
which element does what when it comes to graphics. The
WinXP OS is not prepared for this (and, it was done
on purpose, just to stick a knife in the ribs of
WinXP users).
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2116/2
"Virtual Memory
Microsoft is taking tighter control of graphics memory
with it's new driver model, and thus is able to provide
virtual memory support for the graphics memory subsystem.
What this means is that games no longer need to worry
about running out of graphics memory.
"
WinXP doesn't know anything about that.
>
> Why would DIRECTX 9.0 in a vid card work better
> than the DirectX 9.0c software module for a game?
>
> Is there a lot of other software that runs on WinXP
> but can even use DIRECTX 10 (in video hardware)?
>
> It's not like these are slow computers where
> software DirectX runs slow or anything...
>
> Is hardware DIRECTX 10 or 11 fairly common
> for on board video in newer mother boards?
as drivers are offered to make it possible with modern
video cards.
Once WinXP is off life support, the video card manufacturers
will not feel inclined to continue DirectX 9.0c support.
It costs them money to continue to regression test that
everything still works in WinXP, so the day after WinXP support
is dropped by Microsoft, ATI and NVidia will be "dancing in
the streets" as they eject WinXP support from their buildings.
If you like your old DirectX 9.0c video games, make sure
you've bought a card (by now) to play them with.
Paul
JJ
Jan 4, 2013, 9:47:10 PM1/4/13
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Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> DirectX 10 and 11 are an architectural change. As to
> which element does what when it comes to graphics. The
> WinXP OS is not prepared for this (and, it was done
> on purpose, just to stick a knife in the ribs of
> WinXP users).
>
> DirectX 10 and 11 are an architectural change. As to
> which element does what when it comes to graphics. The
> WinXP OS is not prepared for this (and, it was done
> on purpose, just to stick a knife in the ribs of
> WinXP users).
>
> Enjoy your WinXP. Enjoy your DirectX 9.0c for as long
> as drivers are offered to make it possible with modern
> video cards.
>
> Once WinXP is off life support, the video card manufacturers
> will not feel inclined to continue DirectX 9.0c support.
> It costs them money to continue to regression test that
> everything still works in WinXP, so the day after WinXP support
> is dropped by Microsoft, ATI and NVidia will be "dancing in
> the streets" as they eject WinXP support from their buildings.
>
> If you like your old DirectX 9.0c video games, make sure
> you've bought a card (by now) to play them with.
Hopefully, VirtualBox can emulate DX9 functions from a DX10+ card. Or,
> as drivers are offered to make it possible with modern
> video cards.
>
> Once WinXP is off life support, the video card manufacturers
> will not feel inclined to continue DirectX 9.0c support.
> It costs them money to continue to regression test that
> everything still works in WinXP, so the day after WinXP support
> is dropped by Microsoft, ATI and NVidia will be "dancing in
> the streets" as they eject WinXP support from their buildings.
>
> If you like your old DirectX 9.0c video games, make sure
> you've bought a card (by now) to play them with.
can it do it already? I don't have a DX10 card.
JJ
Jan 4, 2013, 9:50:00 PM1/4/13
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Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> DirectX 10 and 11 are an architectural change. As to
> which element does what when it comes to graphics. The
> WinXP OS is not prepared for this (and, it was done
> on purpose, just to stick a knife in the ribs of
> WinXP users).
>
> DirectX 10 and 11 are an architectural change. As to
> which element does what when it comes to graphics. The
> WinXP OS is not prepared for this (and, it was done
> on purpose, just to stick a knife in the ribs of
> WinXP users).
>
> Enjoy your WinXP. Enjoy your DirectX 9.0c for as long
> as drivers are offered to make it possible with modern
> video cards.
>
> Once WinXP is off life support, the video card manufacturers
> will not feel inclined to continue DirectX 9.0c support.
> It costs them money to continue to regression test that
> everything still works in WinXP, so the day after WinXP support
> is dropped by Microsoft, ATI and NVidia will be "dancing in
> the streets" as they eject WinXP support from their buildings.
>
> If you like your old DirectX 9.0c video games, make sure
> you've bought a card (by now) to play them with.
> as drivers are offered to make it possible with modern
> video cards.
>
> Once WinXP is off life support, the video card manufacturers
> will not feel inclined to continue DirectX 9.0c support.
> It costs them money to continue to regression test that
> everything still works in WinXP, so the day after WinXP support
> is dropped by Microsoft, ATI and NVidia will be "dancing in
> the streets" as they eject WinXP support from their buildings.
>
> If you like your old DirectX 9.0c video games, make sure
> you've bought a card (by now) to play them with.
Greegor
Jan 6, 2013, 4:04:10 AM1/6/13
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http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/NOTEBOOK/GRAPHICS/ATI-MOBILITY-HD-5400/Pages/hd-5450-specs.aspx
This DIRECTX 11 card has DRIVERS for WinXP and W7.
If the DIRECTX 11 hardware and firmware can't
be used in WinXP then what does the driver
do with it?
Would a game application actually prefer
DIRECTX 9 hardware/firmware to the
DirectX 9.0c software module?
I see a card that has shaders and stuff for DIRECTX9.
Would the DirectX 9.0c software module USE that stuff?
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/other/Pages/x1300-specifications.aspx
I found when studying upgrade options that
back when the upper CPU chips were $500
or $600 each, upgrading seemed less worthwhile
but now those same chips are $10 to $30
like the high end ones with hw Virtualization.
When a CPU that used to go for $600 sells
for $30, upgrading isn't so far fetched.
This DIRECTX 11 card has DRIVERS for WinXP and W7.
If the DIRECTX 11 hardware and firmware can't
be used in WinXP then what does the driver
do with it?
Would a game application actually prefer
DIRECTX 9 hardware/firmware to the
DirectX 9.0c software module?
I see a card that has shaders and stuff for DIRECTX9.
Would the DirectX 9.0c software module USE that stuff?
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/other/Pages/x1300-specifications.aspx
I found when studying upgrade options that
back when the upper CPU chips were $500
or $600 each, upgrading seemed less worthwhile
but now those same chips are $10 to $30
like the high end ones with hw Virtualization.
When a CPU that used to go for $600 sells
for $30, upgrading isn't so far fetched.
Paul
Jan 6, 2013, 5:17:23 AM1/6/13
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Presumably, not the same driver. The driver would work with
things usable by the target OS.
If it didn't support DirectX 9, there'd be no point listing
a Windows XP driver.
Using another card as an example...
http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/amd-press-release-2009sep22.aspx
"superior performance in the latest DirectX 11 games, as well as in
DirectX 9, DirectX 10, DirectX 10.1 and OpenGL titles"
I don't know if I can come up with a search term specific
enough to find a table with that information in it.
WinXP uses an XDDM driver, while the later OSes have some
flavor of WDDM driver.
Notice they do mention backward compatibility so that
WDDM can support older titles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WDDM
"The WDDM specification requires at least Direct3D 9-capable video card
and the display driver must implement the device driver interfaces for
the Direct3D 9Ex runtime in order to run legacy Direct3D applications;
it may optionally implement runtime interfaces for Direct3D 10/10.1
and higher."
But the driver for WinXP would be XDDM. It means it is quite possible
the hardware has to support more than one variation in its interface.
It also means, you could run into a video device, that no longer
has support for XDDM. While WDDM has some backward compatibility
defined for it, there's nothing to say ATI/NVidia have to support
XDDM forever on new designs. They could drop it at any time,
simultaneous with stopping WinXP driver support.
(Ref here)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/E/7/7E7662CF-CBEA-470B-A97E-CE7CE0D98DC2/GraphicsGuideWin7.docx
Paul
Greegor
Jan 7, 2013, 1:32:07 AM1/7/13
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> While WDDM has some backward compatibility
> defined for it, there's nothing to say ATI/NVidia have to support
> XDDM forever on new designs. They could drop it at any time,
> simultaneous with stopping WinXP driver support.
If they want to abandon the population of XP users, then
> defined for it, there's nothing to say ATI/NVidia have to support
> XDDM forever on new designs. They could drop it at any time,
> simultaneous with stopping WinXP driver support.
used hardware and support archives would take up the slack.
Durable goods like computers should not be obsoleted and
scrapped/landfilled because they're 3 years old, or because
a big OS vendor wants to DRIVE obsolescence of hardware
without regard to speed benchmarks.
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