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Leonard Grey

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Mar 22, 2010, 12:55:50 PM3/22/10
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Background defragmentation has always been a feature of Windows XP. The
defrags occur when your PC is idle. Therefore, it's not the cause for
your computer becoming slow.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Bright Spark wrote:
> Been using this XP for the past several years, and suddenly in the
> past 2-3 weeks, it has started automatically defragging on its own. I
> will notice that response time is dragging, etc., and when I check the
> Task Master it shows dfrgntfs.exe running. I haven't told it to
> defrag and I haven't set any automatic times for it to do so.
>
> I have checked all the Task Schedulers and other places I can think of
> where I might have accidentally set something, but nothing shows any
> auto defrag set.
>
> I would appreciate any help anyone can give me.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Bright Spark

Unknown

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Mar 22, 2010, 2:19:10 PM3/22/10
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"Background defrag has always been a feature" doesn't really make any sense
since programs and/or files in use cannot be
defragged. The real question is why is it defragging since OP didn't
initiate it.
Does this occur immediately at startup or randomly happening. .
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Unknown

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Mar 22, 2010, 2:20:57 PM3/22/10
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Does defrag startup immediately after booting on randomly sometime later.
Check your startup folder?
Run malware program?
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Tim Meddick

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Mar 22, 2010, 3:36:29 PM3/22/10
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Was it not clear to you what Mr Leonard Grey wrote?

"Background defragmentation has always been a feature of Windows XP"

So then, why ask "question is why is it defragging since OP didn't initiate it." ??

The plain fact is that Win XP will enable an internal setting (by default) to
AUTOMATICALLY (look it up!) defragment the boot disk when the PC is idle...

So the OP need do nothing to initiate this effect as it is already enabled!

Also, as Mr Grey points out, it occurs when the PC IS idle and desists when the user
intervenes (similar to the effect of a screensaver) and thus, cannot be responsible
for the slowing down of a PC!

It is certainly NOT the effect of some malware, but a normal in-built feature of
WinXP!


Finally, to disable this feature (why you would want to, I don't know) reset the
following registry value :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOptimizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"

...and change it to :

"Enable"="N"

...to disable automatic boot-disk background optimization by defrag.exe

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Tim Meddick

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Mar 22, 2010, 4:10:46 PM3/22/10
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As I said in my last post to "Unknown", "defrag.exe" is only actively scanning /
defragmenting when the PC is idle.

A process can still be in memory but use hardly any memory resources.

When the PC is first perceived to be "idle" defrag.exe starts and begins it's scan
and the defragmentation (optimization). Then, when the user intervenes, the process
should go into a suspended mode waiting for the PC to become "idle" and begin to
defragment again.

While other applications are actively receiving user input the "defrag" process
should not me using any more than a bare minimum of memory (below 100k) and therefore
has no impact on PC performance.

If you are still bothered by this normal WinXP feature, again, as I wrote in my other
post, you can turn it off by locating the registry value :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOptimizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"

...and change it from a "Y" (for Yes) to an "N" (for NO) :

"Enable"="N"

...to disable automatic boot-disk background optimization by defrag.exe

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

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> Well, thank you for your reply, but from what I have discovered while
> trying to solve this mystery is that even though it (supposedly) has
> always been a feature of Windows XP, it should stop once the computer
> is no longer idle. But it doesn't stop. If it were to occur while
> the PC was idle I doubt I would have noticed it at all, but it
> continues on while I am trying to work at my computer and does,
> indeed, slow it down while it "does its thing" until I end the
> process.
>
> Also, I have been using this computer for over 3 years almost 8-10
> hours per day since it is a function of my work, and I have never
> noticed it doing this "background defragmentation" before. It's very
> odd.
>
> Bright Spark
>
>

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Unknown

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Mar 22, 2010, 4:54:07 PM3/22/10
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It was very clear. He has never experienced the problem till recently.
Win XP does NOT (by default) automatically defrag the boot disk.
It must be a scheduled event.
The OP did NOT initiate this event.
You had best get your facts straight and read the other posts from the OP.
Also please show where defrag is set by default.
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Tim Meddick

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Mar 22, 2010, 4:56:57 PM3/22/10
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Believe me, "defrag.exe" IS the initial executable that is called, however, then,
depending on what file-system is employed on a drive, either "dfrgntfs.exe" (for
NTFS) or "dfrgfat.exe" (for FAT12,16, 32) takes over.

In actual fact, in this automatic background defrag, it's another sub-process that
actually governs it : "dfrgres.dll".

But the setting I quoted absolutely does govern the effect of automatic background
boot-disk optimization and no other. Take it or leave it....

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:10:46 -0000, "Tim Meddick"
> <timme...@gawab.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>As I said in my last post to "Unknown", "defrag.exe" is only actively scanning /
>>defragmenting when the PC is idle.
>>

> "defrag.exe" is not the process that is running. It is "dfrgntfs.exe"


>
>>A process can still be in memory but use hardly any memory resources.
>>
>>When the PC is first perceived to be "idle" defrag.exe starts and begins it's scan
>>and the defragmentation (optimization). Then, when the user intervenes, the
>>process
>>should go into a suspended mode waiting for the PC to become "idle" and begin to
>>defragment again.
>>
>>While other applications are actively receiving user input the "defrag" process
>>should not me using any more than a bare minimum of memory (below 100k) and
>>therefore
>>has no impact on PC performance.
>

> The process that starts automatically running on my computer,
> "dfrgntfs.exe" is using between 500-600k and is definitely impacting


> performance.
>>
>>If you are still bothered by this normal WinXP feature, again, as I wrote in my
>>other
>>post, you can turn it off by locating the registry value :
>

> Probably wouldn't be wise for me to do this since we seem to be
> talking about two different pieces of the defragging process.


>>
>>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOptimizeFunction]
>>"Enable"="Y"
>>
>>...and change it from a "Y" (for Yes) to an "N" (for NO) :
>>
>>"Enable"="N"
>>
>>...to disable automatic boot-disk background optimization by defrag.exe
>>
>>==
>>
>>Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>>
>>

> Thank you again.
>
> Bright Spark

Tim Meddick

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Mar 22, 2010, 5:20:02 PM3/22/10
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You are an idiot.

I will explain.

You are an idiot ,because you make statements without knowledge....

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,1149277,00.asp

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Unknown

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You are the idiot because you ASSUME defrag is executed. Where on the URL
you posted does it say defrag
is started by default? I have had XP since day one and never had defrag run
without my starting it.
Talk about making statements without knowledge-----read the info at the URL
you posted.
You being British, do you know what defrag is?

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Tim Meddick

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And to answer that and your other question ...

The AUTOMATIC BOOT-DISK OPTIMIZATION EXECUTED BY DEFRAG.EXE EVERY THREE DAYS CALLING
EITHER DFRGNTFS.EXE OR DFRGFAT.EXE CONTROLLED BY DFRGRES.DLL AND UTLIIZING
LAYOUT.INF, IS SET BY DEFAULT BY THE REGISTRY SETTING :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOptimizeFunction]
"Enable"="Y"

PLEASE NOTICE THE "Enable"="Y" THAT IS "Y" FOR YES ENABLE

THAT IS THE DEFAULT SETTING!

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


P.S. I WILL admit that the URL that I quoted was a bit of a loss, I thought it
explained further.

I have so far only got the odd references from here and there - nothing that confirms
and explains the whole thing. Nut be assured I am right about XP automatically
optimizing the boot disk using background disk defragmentation and it being enabled
by default AND not scheduled through the Task Scheduler (although, Task Scheduler
must be enabled for it to work).


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Ken Blake, MVP

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:20:02 -0000, "Tim Meddick"
<timme...@gawab.com> wrote:

> You are an idiot.
>
> I will explain.
>
> You are an idiot ,because you make statements without knowledge....
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,1149277,00.asp

No, he's a troll, which is even worse than being an idiot.

Making a mistake is acceptable. None of us is perfect and we all make
mistakes from time to time. But his working so hard to be anonymous
while attacking so many of us is the mark of a troll, and is not
acceptable.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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Ken Blake, MVP

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:10:46 -0000, "Tim Meddick"
<timme...@gawab.com> wrote:

> As I said in my last post to "Unknown", "defrag.exe" is only actively scanning /
> defragmenting when the PC is idle.
>
> A process can still be in memory but use hardly any memory resources.

And to add to and perhaps clarify that, if some process or program is
in memory, but is not active, and other processes or programs need the
memory, the memory used by the inactive process or program quickly
becomes page file memory, not real RAM. RAM is used by the most active
programs, and the inactive ones get paged out until they need to do
something.

John John - MVP

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This is a bit misleading, the background defragmentation is part of the
boot optimization process and it involves only startup files.

John

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John John - MVP

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What the others are talking about it the Prefetch mechanism, there are
no other types of system initiated background defragmentation. The
prefetch defragmentation is launched by the Task Scheduler, it only
occurs when the system is idle and it is only performed every three
days. There are no entries for this task in the Task Scheduler and
there are no user settings for this task in the TS GUI tool. The System
Idle Task Scheduler service monitors for the system to be idle before it
launches the task. The system is considered to be idle if for the last
10 minutes:

* There is no user input.
* The CPU and disk usage is less than 10 percent.
* The system is not running on battery power.
* Presentation programs (such as a slide show or movie playback)
are not running.

Finally, it should be noted that usually the Prefetch defragmentation
would be relatively fast, it doesn't take a very long time to optimize
the prefetch files, after all, the files are optimized every three days
and they don't change all that often so there is usually not all that
much moving around to do with the files. If you want to acquaint
yourself with the Prefetch mechanism read the relevant section here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx
Windows XP: Kernel Improvements Create a More Robust, Powerful, and
Scalable OS

Please be advised that there are all kinds of misconceptions about
Prefetch and that 'false' tweaks abound all over the internet, don't
believe any of these tweaks, the author here:
http://members.rushmore.com/~jsky/id14.html sums it up accurately:

[Quote]

Windows XP Prefetching by default is already optimized. There are no
tweaks that do anything but hurt performance. Anyone making any claims
otherwise does not understand how Windows Prefetching works. They also
do not provide documented and accurate reproducible testing to prove
that some "tweak" does work. This nonsense has been copied off one site
to another.

[end quote]

I don't know why dfrgntfs.exe is running and bogging down your system.
This much I can tell you, I don't remember ever having seen this running
in my Task Manager (yes, Prefetch is enabled on my machine and yes the
Task Scheduler service is set to start automatically). I am not saying
that the task doesn't show as part of the boot optimization, I don't
know if it does or not, I'm only saying that if it does I can't remember
ever seeing it showing in the Task Manager... but then if the task only
occurs when the computer is idle for 10 minutes or more, well I wasn't
at the computer to see it or I was asleep at the keyboard...

I think this is probably being launched by one of your maintenance
application. Under which user name is the process running?

John


Bright Spark wrote:
> To tell you the truth, John, I have found a whole lot of this thread
> misleading since I first posted my request for assistance. I was
> hoping for some help in this group, but instead find it seems more
> like a contest of who knows what and calling people names, etc. Can't
> imagine what good all that does other than perhaps some ego-stoking.
> Certainly doesn't actually help anyone looking for solutions,
> unfortunately.
>
> As far as help, I guess I have been informed now that my computer has
> always been doing this whether I knew it or not, and I can change the
> registry if I want (but why would I want to), take it or leave it.
>
> I was in here asking for help because my computer has not, in fact,
> been doing this. I am no computer expert, but I'm not a neophyte
> either and I do at least know some of the more common places to check
> and see what might be slowing things down when they do slow down. In
> other words, hoping perhaps for some suggestions as to why it would
> suddenly start doing this and thinking I might get some ideas here.
> That's what I get for thinking.
>
> Bright Spark

Unknown

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You are confusing boot optimization with defrag. May I suggest you Google
'defrag' and read whhat it is.

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Unknown

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I'm sorry----my fault. I for got you were an idiot. You also believe boot
optimization is defrag along with all your other fallacies.
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Unknown

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For what it's worth, my registry is also set to 'Y' meaning boot
optimization is active. My computer runs the way yours
once did. I believe you have a problem of something activating defrag. Try
some processes of elimination.. Try shutting down malware, spyware and those
types of programs and see if the problem continues.
You may also want to try renaming the defrag program. Perhaps an error will
occur if something tries to initiate defrag.
Have you installed anything recently? Have you thought about system restore
to a date prior to your problem?

"Bright Spark" <brightspark...@nomore.com> wrote in message
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> My computer is pretty much "on" all the time - it is never shut down
> unless to reboot for one reason or another. It doesn't happen upon
> rebooting, but instead it appears to be random.
>
> Norton virus/malware protection is running constantly as well as
> regular virus/malware full system scans. I also use CCleaner every
> few days.
>
> Not sure what you mean by the "startup folder" - it's not in the
> Startup menu, if that's the same thing.
>
> Bright Spark


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Unknown

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Is indexing set to manual in services?

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> Thank you, Unknown - I think I may be on to something with the
> Indexing Service (see my other post to John John), and I have tried
> most of the things you suggest, but I'm going to try them again as
> well.
>
> Appreciate you trying to help.
>
> Bright Spark

Unknown

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Also, if trying to correct your wrong posts is ATTACKING you and considered
'troll'
and not acceptable may I suggest you grow up.

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Tim Meddick

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I'm not going to argue with someone who is so blind to what is true anymore, than to
say this;

I am "confusing" things am I?

If defrag has got nothing to do with the boot optimize process, as you say, then why
is the registry key that controls the boot optimize process called :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Dfrg\BootOptimizeFunction

???

You will notice the "\Dfrg\" in the middle of that reg-path. Also, under the above
key is a reg-value called : "ResourceDllName"="DfrgRes.dll"

DfrgRes.dll being part of the automatic background boot-disk optimization performed
by defrag.

The WinXP boot-disk optimization is performed by a mix of (background) disk
defragmentation and also improved performance by the realigning of the prefetch
processes.

This happens once every three days, as a rule, but can be forced by rebooting (twice)
and executing the command :

Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

I think it is YOU that do not read the other posts, plus you didn't even check out
the registry setting or even look it up!

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Tim Meddick

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The truth is I am still learning while giving advice.

You may think this at odds, but the first bit of advice I gave still stands :

While I have learnt that the defragmentation (background) process is concerned only
with defragmenting the prefetch system files. Thing I already said include; it is
still automatically called every three days and is not set in the Task Scheduler
although Task Scheduler must be enabled for it to work.

And more importantly, it should NOT interfere (slow down) your PC and should NOT
consume all but the smallest of memory resources (you said your "dfrgntfs.exe"
process ate 500-600k in my experience it takes a process over 10000k for it to have
any negative impact on PC speed) plus it should desist once user input is detected
(not quit mind you, but stop using up so much memory resources).

And, finally and MOST importantly; if you just don't want this process to begin I
gave you the correct registry setting for you to stop it from happening.

I would not have quoted a registry setting for you to change if it had any serious
consequences.

By stopping automatic boot-disk optimization, you only stop the background defrag
process of the prefetch files (in your case, so "dfrtgntfs.exe" will no longer show
up in Task Manager when you did not start it), you won't stop PREFETCH which, IMHO,
is essential for the smooth running of XP!

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

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> Thank you for taking the time, John John. Your explanation certainly
> accounts for why I could not find it anywhere in any scheduling
> settings.
>
> I believe I have possibly found at least some of the answer to my
> mystery in a website called "File.Net" - it is possible that it is
> associated with the Indexing Service. I have shut that off and we'll
> see if that solves this problem which, as I say, has only just
> recently been happening, not been going on since I've been using XP.
>
> http://www.file.net/process/dfrgntfs.exe.html
>
> Again, thank you for taking the time to try to help. I appreciate it.
>
> Bright Spark
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:33:46 -0300, John John - MVP

Tim Meddick

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This guy "Unknown" is dangerous, not only myself, but TWO MVPs have separately
confirmed within this thread that defrag.exe (in your case with an NTFS partition -
dfrgntfs.exe) is a NORMAL PART OF THE WIN XP PROCESSES

And have told you many times now that if you want to stop it (and there is NO HARM in
doing so) just change the registry setting I gave you and you will be bothered by the
automatic starting of the "dfrgntfs.exe" process anymore....

For one last and final time....

IT HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH SOME MALICIOUS SOFTWARE INVASION CONSPIRACY BY
INVADING VIRUSSES! - IT IS NORMAL!

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> Thank you, Unknown .....
>
> < clipped >
>

Unknown

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Read the difference between optimize boot and defrag. If you stop to think,
there is nothing to prevent
some programs from using other programs routines. Optimizing may well use a
routine in defrag but optimizing
is NOT defragging. The registry key is "BootOptimizeFunction"
You also stated defrag is defaulted as on. No it isn't and can't be. It has
to be scheduled. Boot optimize is
defaulted on. Entirely different program. Cheers!

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Unknown

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You are absolutely insane. You yourself said Boot Optimization does not slow
down ones computer.
The OP's computer is slowing down severely. Now you say it is normal???????

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Tim Meddick

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"Unknown" - You just don't listen to anyone, do you?

Boot-disk optimization IS the defragmentation and realignment (according to the
contents of the file Layout.inf) of the prefetch system files.

The defragmentation part of the process is performed by the automatic background
calling of defrag.exe which, in turn, start either "dfrgntfs.exe" (in the case of the
OP) or "dfrgfat.exe" and it then defragments the prefetch system files.


Section : "Prefetch", on page :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx

Unknown

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In an effort to get you to think (if you can) my Boot optimizing is set to
'Y' in the registry. IE Boot optimizing is on.
Why doesn't my computer experience the same 'slow down' as the OP's?
THINK__THINK____THINK.
Does yours slow down.?????

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Tim Meddick

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The OP "THINKS" it is this process that is slowing his PC down, but, not only myself,
but both of the MVPs, believe that it should *not* be doing so (reasons explained in
earlier posts).

The OP should look elsewhere for the reason his PC is so slow;

Look at; the "Run" reg-key (HKCU & HKLM); in the Startup Folder[s] (on your own Start
Menu and the All Users Start Menu) both for excessive and unnecessary entries.

To the OP: You could download and try this [free] program to determine what process
are started automatically by your system :

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Autoruns.zip

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Unknown

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Hey Bright Spark! Was your computer indexing rather than defragging?
Did indexing get turned on?

"Bright Spark" <brightspark...@nomore.com> wrote in message
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> Tim, I'm not sure what your problem is, but first please stop yelling
> at everybody. Chill out and take a break for a while or something.
> Jeez.
>
> The one last and final time for you to comprehend, maybe, is that the
> problem I have been experiencing is not "normal" otherwise I wouldn't
> have bothered with looking for help to stop it. This is not some
> normal process that my XP has been doing for the past 3-4 years I've
> been using it on this PC. I'm not sure why you have such difficulty
> understanding that the problem I've been having is not the one you
> seem so bent on solving. You are trying to answer a question I
> haven't asked, but you seem to want to force your own particular
> interpretation upon the situation. I guess it's hard to listen when
> you won't stop talking.
>
> No matter any further, because I'm off on another track and I believe
> I have the problem licked, so I don't need you to help any more,
> thanks. If you truly want to help people in this forum, perhaps you
> should mellow out first. Your attitude sucks, frankly. At least the
> MVPs who have offered help have done so in a courteous way, which is
> appreciated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bright Spark

Tim Meddick

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Bright Spark,
I was not shouting at you, they were replies directed at
"Unknown" who, despite myself, got under my skin.

After getting statements from two others, agreeing with me about what "Boot-disk
optimization" means (and that includes "Disk defragmenter" auto-starting in the
background, being part of this process), Mr "Unknown" persistently tried to ridicule
me for what I was saying. And I reacted, in possibly not in the wisest of ways, to
this.

To yourself, I believe that I have been nothing but courteous, attempting to convince
you that the "dfrgntfs.exe" process you see IS quite a normal part of XP, what part
of WinXP this is part of, and how, if you still want it to stop, to stop it from
happening.

I just irked me to think that you may be taken down the "blind alley" of thinking
that the process was started by some unauthorized means (like malware) as was
suggested by "Unknown".

As I said, I believe I have been nothing but polite [to you] and you are free to take
"Unknown"s point of view as fact if you like, but it's my own opinion that the
slowness of your PC may coincide with the appearance of the "dfrgntfs.exe" process,
but I doubt that any process that takes up less than 10000Kb of memory (on a system
with 512Mb RAM) would be impacting on that system's performance.

I suggested you look elsewhere for the cause of the slowing down of you PC.

However, I know I could well be wrong about the cause, but with the information I
gave you on how to stop the automatic launching of the "dfrgntfs.exe" process, you
could experiment and prove it to yourself that it is, indeed, the culprit...

I am sincerely sorry if I have displeased you in some way, it was not my intention to
be pedantic.

Unknown

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Are you really that dense? You don't understand english?

Twayne

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In news:OtI1DmDz...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unk...@unknown.kom> typed:

Go back to your room.


Unknown

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Mar 25, 2010, 2:49:13 PM3/25/10
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You've been wrong on so many things such as running registry cleaners and
now you also
believe defrag runs automatically? You think boot optimization and defrag
are one and the same?
I see you're playing stupid again. Looks like you're winning too..
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Peter Foldes

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Mar 25, 2010, 5:13:19 PM3/25/10
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Unknown

You do not seem to comprehend.Why are you beating a dead horse on this subject

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

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Unknown

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Mar 26, 2010, 1:49:53 PM3/26/10
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What makes you think Twayne is a dead horse? (Even though he is)
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Tim Meddick

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Mar 26, 2010, 4:37:03 PM3/26/10
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Moron!

The "beating a dead horse" comment that "Peter Foldes" made was directed at yourself,
and not at "Twayne"...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

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> What makes you think Twayne is a dead horse? (Even though he is)
>

> < clipped >

Unknown

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Mar 27, 2010, 12:00:20 PM3/27/10
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Idiot-------you have no sense of humor???

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Twayne

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Mar 27, 2010, 6:01:24 PM3/27/10
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In news:e3voXvEz...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unk...@unknown.kom> typed:

> You've been wrong on so many things such as running
> registry cleaners and now you also
> believe defrag runs automatically? You think boot
> optimization and defrag are one and the same?
> I see you're playing stupid again. Looks like you're
> winning too..

You ability to read is fantASStic, as usual, and your
experience as abysmal as your knowledge.

Tim Meddick

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Mar 28, 2010, 3:15:22 PM3/28/10
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....I'm still reading your posts, so I must have [a sense of humour].

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

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> Idiot-------you have no sense of humor???
> "Tim Meddick" <timme...@gawab.com> wrote in message
> news:uaMsbQSz...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Moron!
>>
>> The "beating a dead horse" comment that "Peter Foldes" made was directed at
>> yourself, and not at "Twayne"...
>>
>

> < clipped >

David

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By the way, on the same subject, is there any chance of changing the time
interval of when the boot optimization occurs? Or is it set in stone @ 10
mins idle? Reason why I'm asking is, as far as I know, perfect disk uses
windows ini to defrag boot and only recognizes the files as boot files after
windows starts the optimization. So, just curious about how to manually
start it or decrease that timer. Actually juse need a one time run on it..

Oh, almost forgot, this is on Windows 7 x64 incase it matters.

Tim Meddick

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May 19, 2010, 6:53:21 PM5/19/10
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Don't think this is possible using the Defrag BOOTOPTIMIZE registry key.

However, I will look into it further, so keep watching this space.

In the mean time, you could create a new Task Scheduler item set to execute
and set it for an idle timeout of your choosing and for it's command, write
in :


Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks


...this will start all the PC's "idle tasks", including defrag
optimization, at the timeout you specify.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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