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muzz

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Feb 28, 2009, 3:03:58 PM2/28/09
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(I have reviewed the other postings here plus dozens of others in other
sites.)
The recommeded action is to use Chkdsk with /f possibly with other
parameters. I have gone through this numerous times, without success.

I have looked at the mft files with Testdisk and used Repair MFT
option. The response is "MFT and MFT mirror matches perfectly"
I also used GetDataback which shows on both files a last access date
of over two years ago! I don't understand this. Neither am I clear
how to use Getdataback to repair MFT if indeed it does need repair.

Concurrent issues. The last main thing I did before this occurred was
to remove indexing on my C drive. From what i understand this should not
impact at all of MFT. I have also been having intermittent isssues with
Windows Explorer which regularly reports that it has to shut down. BTW,
I have also uninstalled IE7.

Any ideas out there as what to do next??
Options I have considered are:
Do a full defrag?
Use my Acronis backup to restore from a day before this issue first
occurred.
(Windows Restore is not an option, it lets me go so far then nothing
happens, even though I can select a restore point etc. )
Reformat C and rebuild! (I have a D drive which mostly has my
documents, downloads etc.


Thanks,


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muzz

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Feb 28, 2009, 8:53:39 PM2/28/09
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I have just completed a deep check with the Hitachi utility (Driver
Fitness Test) for my drive. It all seems to check out perfectly and
gives an 0x00 Dispostion Code whatever that is.

Patrick Keenan

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Mar 1, 2009, 12:40:50 AM3/1/09
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"muzz" <muzz....@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> (I have reviewed the other postings here plus dozens of others in other
> sites.)
> The recommeded action is to use Chkdsk with /f possibly with other
> parameters. I have gone through this numerous times, without success.
>
> I have looked at the mft files with Testdisk and used Repair MFT
> option. The response is "MFT and MFT mirror matches perfectly"
> I also used GetDataback which shows on both files a last access date
> of over two years ago! I don't understand this. Neither am I clear
> how to use Getdataback to repair MFT if indeed it does need repair.
>
> Concurrent issues. The last main thing I did before this occurred was
> to remove indexing on my C drive. From what i understand this should not
> impact at all of MFT. I have also been having intermittent isssues with
> Windows Explorer which regularly reports that it has to shut down. BTW,
> I have also uninstalled IE7.
>
> Any ideas out there as what to do next??
> Options I have considered are:
> Do a full defrag?
> Use my Acronis backup to restore from a day before this issue first
> occurred.
> (Windows Restore is not an option, it lets me go so far then nothing
> happens, even though I can select a restore point etc. )
> Reformat C and rebuild! (I have a D drive which mostly has my
> documents, downloads etc.
>
>
> Thanks,


I'd suggest that a prudent step would be to retire that drive. Drives that
begin to fail, to my view, should not be trusted. Where I am, 250 gig
drives are under $70, so it's not a huge expense compared to the
inconvenience of failure.

So, I'd suggest getting a new drive, setting the old one aside in the
anti-static bag, disconnecting other hard disks so they don't interfere in
drive letter assignments, and doing a new install. Or, depending on what
your Acronis backup is, restoring that. Once the basic install is done and
the boot drive has the correct drive letter, attach other drives.

HTH
-pk

muzz

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Mar 1, 2009, 2:27:47 AM3/1/09
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Thanks for the input. However this drive is less than 2years old and
every utility I have used, including the manufacturers one has failed to
detect a single issue. Anything is possible of course and because of the
many applications I have installed a new drive even with Acronis will be
very time consuming. Any other suggestions?

ju.c

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Mar 1, 2009, 4:19:05 AM3/1/09
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Please don't delete previous posts, thanks.


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Gerry

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Mar 1, 2009, 8:35:01 AM3/1/09
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muzz

I am not clear why you say " mft is corrupted and unreadable by Windows".
Your initial post does not explain. It merely says what you have done to try
to resolve the issue etc.

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for
Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than 48
hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Patrick Keenan

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Mar 1, 2009, 1:15:00 PM3/1/09
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"muzz" <muzz....@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the input. However this drive is less than 2years old and
> every utility I have used, including the manufacturers one has failed to
> detect a single issue. Anything is possible of course and because of the
> many applications I have installed a new drive even with Acronis will be
> very time consuming. Any other suggestions?

I have a couple of drives on hand that have failed in that sort of time
period.

If you find that migrating to a new drive is "very time consuming" and are
using Acronis TrueImage, I suggest that you aren't using TI effectively.
An image should get you back up and running in an hour or so, most of which
is waiting.

HTH
-pk

Jim

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Mar 1, 2009, 1:54:36 PM3/1/09
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"muzz" <muzz....@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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A hardware failure can occur at any time... However, the mft can get
corrupted by malware..

As for ATI, the time take depends on the size of the backup file. I
restored my laptop (60 GB disk) back to full operation in about 15 minutes.
And, as you do not need to restore applications if you have a good backup,
their number is irrelevant.

On the other hand, you can easily spend hours rebuilding the system from the
ground up with the XP CDs, chipset CDs, application CDs, etc.

Jim


muzz

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Mar 1, 2009, 2:54:55 PM3/1/09
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Gerry - this is an error message which keeps popping up in a standard MS
error panel and also on a small pop up from the tray.
The message is:
Windows - Corrupt File
The file or directory C:/$MFT is corrupt and unreadable. Please fun
Chkdsk Utility.

From Event Viewer.
Application popup: Windows - Corrupt File : The file or directory
C:\$MFT is corrupt and unreadable. Please run the Chkdsk utility.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

A question asked above. Why would the Last Accessed date on this $MFT
file show as a date two years ago? (I found this info using
GetDataBack)

Thanks

Gerry

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Mar 1, 2009, 5:17:38 PM3/1/09
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muzz

The simplest solution may be to backup your data files and reformat the
drive and reinstall Windows.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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muzz

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Mar 1, 2009, 6:06:11 PM3/1/09
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I guess the reason why I have hesitated on this is that I had a new
hard drive installed by the distributors about 18 months ago and they
installed XPPro for which I don't have the CD. ( I do have a valid
licence key though so will try to borrow an XP Pro CD)

Also, I have saved the Acronis image files on a desktop PC on my home
network. Once I format drive C: I will not have access to the network
so will need to find another way to grab the Acronis image. THe USB
ports are dodgy so will have to do a direct cable of something.

muzz

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Mar 1, 2009, 9:17:14 PM3/1/09
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But tell me this! Does FORMAT remove $mft. I suspect not as Format on
a HD is high level and does not impact on NTFS system.

I was going to FORMAT C then reinstall on Drive C but that might not be
enough.

muzz

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Mar 5, 2009, 8:10:40 PM3/5/09
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For anyone interested in this ongoing saga.

I did a partition restore using Acronis True Image, but the error
message was there as soon as I got back into WIndows ..in fact even
before I logged in. An Acronis forum specialist has suggested restoring
it but making the partition smaller which I assume will force an edit or
rebuild of mft. Will keep you posted.

Leonard Grey

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Mar 5, 2009, 9:22:35 PM3/5/09
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Even if we /were/ interested in your ongoing saga, since you snipped all
previous posts, people like me who follow newsgroups with a newsreader
have no idea what you're talking about.
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lyrae

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May 13, 2009, 5:36:53 AM5/13/09
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Can you please post results?

Desperate here.


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Jim

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May 13, 2009, 10:15:40 AM5/13/09
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On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:06:53 +0530, lyrae <lyrae....@DoNotSpam.com>
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>Can you please post results?
>
>Desperate here.

To whom are you talking ? Hint - you are on the World Wide Web .

lyrae

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May 13, 2009, 10:33:05 AM5/13/09
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To original poster who said will keep us posted. Although he's banned.
Someone unban him so i can PM him

Daave

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May 13, 2009, 12:44:34 PM5/13/09
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lyrae wrote:

> Can you please post results?
>
> Desperate here.

You are doing two (perhaps three) things wrong:

1. You are replying to a post that is not recent (muzz posted over two
months ago!).

2. You snipped the entirety of his post. The overwhelming majority of
people reading your post have absolutely no idea what you are talking
about. Apparently, you are referencing this thread (archived by Google):

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/browse_frm/thread/12cde07758c43b19/ac4c900b8270af89

3. You are posting to a USENET newgroup via a problematic Web interface
rather than with a news reader.

In order to get high-quality assistance, you need to begin a new thread
(*your* thread), giving us as much pertinent information as possible,
including:

- the exact nature of your problem. Include the complete text of all
relevant error messages and describe as fully as possible.

- the make, model, and model number of your PC and its specs.

- the type of XP you are running and the Service Pack level.

Also, you will have a much better experience in USENET if you lay off
the Web interface you are using! Instead, use a news reader, such as
Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Agent, Gravity, etc. More info:

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

And don't entirely snip the message you are replying to! (It's okay and
even preferred to snip the superfluous stuff, though.)


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