What's the best modern web browser to use in old Windows XP SP3 these days?

[Ant]

IE8, Firefox ESR, and Google Chrome are too old these days on modern web sites. :(

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[Juancho]

On 2021-02-05, Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> IE8, Firefox ESR, and Google Chrome are too old these days on modern web sites. :(

As far as I know, Firefox 52 is the latest and newest web browser you
can use in Windows XP. And that's what I use, although lately I've been
forced by the harsh reality of things into Windows 10, basically to be
able to browse some parts of the modern web which, as you say, are not
content with a Firefox as old as version 52.

I've read that there are some more modern web browsers for Windows XP,
but those are --to my eyes- one-man- minority projects, and I've not
tried them. I've read about Brave and Vivaldi...

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[G.F.]

"Ant" a...@zimage.comANT

> IE8, Firefox ESR, and Google Chrome are too old these days on modern web
> sites. :(
>
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon.:)

I use Maxthon 5 (5.1.6.3000) since it's the only browser that let me watch
the videos of Youtube and almost any other video.
I tried 5.3.8.2000 but it shows deteriorated texts, at least in Twitter. The
texts are strange and somehow difficult to read, so I downgraded to
5.1.6.3000.

An annoying inconvenience is that it refuses to open some websites because
of "invalid certificate", but it's not true, it's a bug, in fact other
comparable browsers opens those websites instead.

GF

[JJ]

On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 11:37:47 +0100, G.F. wrote:
>
> I use Maxthon 5 (5.1.6.3000) since it's the only browser that let me watch
> the videos of Youtube and almost any other video.

Be warned. Maxthon is an aggresive phone-home software.

> An annoying inconvenience is that it refuses to open some websites because
> of "invalid certificate", but it's not true, it's a bug, in fact other
> comparable browsers opens those websites instead.

It depends on which browser engine is used. If it's Trident, it'll be same
as using MSIE where it uses Windows' built in security library which doesn't
support newer security chipers.

None of Gecko (Firefox), WebKit, and Blink (Chrome), uses Windows' built in
security library for the chiper functions.

[John Dulak]

On 2/5/2021 5:27 PM, Ant wrote:
> IE8, Firefox ESR, and Google Chrome are too old these days on modern web sites. :(
>
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon.:)
>

Ant:

This works for me;

Mypal browser (Firefox fork) maintains reasonable compatibility with most of the
modern fluff:
https://www.mypal-browser.org/

John

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[R.Wieser]

John,

> Mypal browser (Firefox fork) maintains reasonable compatibility with most
> of the modern fluff:

Do you have any info about if and how well it supports addons (WebExtension
/ XUL) ? The webiste itself is a bit .... terse in regard to any kind of
information.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

[John Dulak]

Rudy:

I run it with NoScript 2.9.0.14 and it works fine. Since it is a Pale Moon fork
I suspect most ad-ons that will work on Pale Moon will work on MyPal.

From this page;
https://www.mypal-browser.org/features.html

"Extensions
Supports many Pale Moon extensions as well as "legacy" (pre-Quantum) Firefox
extensions. You can use popular extensions like Ad Block Plus, NoScript, and
many more."

Further info here;
https://feodor2.github.io/Mypal/

John

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[Mayayana]

"John Dulak" <Jo...@Booogus.com> wrote

| >> Mypal browser (Firefox fork) maintains reasonable compatibility with
most
| >> of the modern fluff:

I tried installing that awhile back but haven't really
used it. I wonder about the Goanna rendering. Newer
versions of Firefox work well, with Gecko. Ditto for
Waterfox. Yet I have a recent version of New Moon
and there are more rendering problems than with FF52.
So it doesn't seem to be just an issue of being up to date.
FF52.9 is only 2+ years old.

I don't understand all these problems. Sometimes it's
just impossible to sort through 8 javascript files and
6 CSS files to figure out what's making a page misbehave.
But it's getting worse.

[R.Wieser]

John,

> From this page;
> https://www.mypal-browser.org/features.html

To be honest, I have fully overlooked that simple, not-in-your-face link.
:-\

Thanks for the response.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

[R.Wieser]

Mayayana,

> FF52.9 is only 2+ years old.

I wasn't aware that FF 52.9 is that young.

I'm (sideways) looking at other browsers as the encryption methods that
(web) servers accept are changing, and I'm simply not sure how long that
those used by FF 52 will allow me to keep visiting the 'web. Am I
worrying for nothing ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
I'm assuming that 52.9 and 52.5 (which I use) do not differ much, if
anything in regard to supported encryption methods ...

[Mayayana]

"R.Wieser" <add...@not.available> wrote

| I'm (sideways) looking at other browsers as the encryption methods that
| (web) servers accept are changing, and I'm simply not sure how long that
| those used by FF 52 will allow me to keep visiting the 'web. Am I
| worrying for nothing ?
|

It supports TLS 1.3

https://clienttest.ssllabs.com:8443/ssltest/viewMyClient.html

I think 1.2 is standard now. If your test doesn't show 1.3,
change security.tls.version.max to 4. I expect it will be many
years before that's no longer supported, but one never knows.
If 1.2 and 1.3 get hacked someone might cook up a whole
new system. It might not be long before we have to leave
a credit card # with Google in order to visit webpages.