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arlen holder
Mar 30, 2019, 9:41:32 PM3/30/19
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:10:06 -0500, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
> Never used it myself but possibly DS Clock might work for you.
> https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/index.html
Hi GlowingBlueMist,
Wow. That's a GREAT suggestion.
o People like you are why Usenet is still a great collaborative tool!
*DS Clock worked PERFECTLY in my very first test just now!*
o <https://i.postimg.cc/4N3gfwZz/clock01.jpg>
And it worked perfectly in my second test, just now:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/j2c5tTqg/clock02.jpg>
While the DS Clock options are different from ClocX options, DS Clock seems
to do EXACTLY what ClocX does, but in _digital_ instead of in analog
output!
As per a post from "n/a", I gave the wrong URL to ClocX:
o DS Clock: <https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/> (A digital clock
display)
o ClocX: <http://www.clocx.net/> (An analog clock display)
The main advantage (to me) of these clock displays is that they can be set
to display _any_ time zone's time, which is what I needed since my system
time zone is set to fluctuate randomly (using a script that randomly makes
use of the Windows "tzutil.exe" command).
DS Clock also synchronizes the system time to any given time server,
which is an added bonus (I'm not sure _how_ Windows system sync time
though, so maybe that sync is not even needed).
I like that it works with all Windows, even down to Windows XP!
As always, I wrote up an installation log, which I reproduce here so that
others can benefit from your wonderful advice!
-------------- begin installation log ---------------
Obtain DS Clock 4.0 (64-bit, 32-bit) from:
<https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/index.html>
My screenshot:
<https://i.postimg.cc/4N3gfwZz/clock01.jpg>
This is the key advertising blurb...
DS Clock is a FREE digital desktop clock that displays variable date & time
information built from the format string.
The program allows you to fully customize its look and feel.
You can select any combination of date, time, and time zones,
insert any text, pick custom colors and fonts, set custom sounds
to play at the top of the hour, play real Westminster chimes, etc.
DS Clock can synchronize your computer's clock with Atomic Time Servers.
DS Clock is available on these platforms:
o Windows 10 (32-bit & 64-bit)
o Windows 8.1/8 (32-bit & 64)
o Windows 7 (32-bit & 64)
o Windows Vista/2008 (32-bit & 64)
o Windows XP/2003 (32-bit)
I saved the installer to: C:\software\hardware\time\dsclock\dsc400r-x64
The setup wants to install in: C:\Program Files\DS Clock
I put it in: C:\app\hardware\time\dsclock (next to ClocX & T-Clock)
The first time it runs it phones home (twice):
<http://www.dualitysoft.com/t/dsc-install?src=dsc-install&version=4.0.0.2&os=10.0.17763&pi=x64&pa=x64>
<https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/thankyou.html?src=dsc-install&version=4.0.0.2>
It opens to the "DS Clock Options" form which has two tabs:
o Clock (pick any desired date format, e.g., hh:mm:ss tt - MMMM dd, ddd)
o Synchronization (pick whether to auto sync & the time server)
The default shows the "system time", which, for me, isn't what I wanted.
Luckily, it allows you to set it to a time zone, which _is_ what I want!
What's really nice is that the display itself is the most real time
I've ever seen _any_ formattable display, where it displays the result
literally while you type the text (seemingly at the very instant), without
so much as an "enter" command or "ok" button press.
This is what I ended up with using:
#085 ddd MMM dd ==> 5:54 PM Sat Mar 30
Although I kind of like this slightly longer format also:
#085 dddd MMMM dd ==> 5:54 PM Saturday March 30
It seems I can change the fonts & sizes, but for now, I won't bother,
unless it affects the fingerprinting in browser tests. If you turn off the
custom fonts, it seems to use the same font as the Windows task bar clock,
where you can set the text color and background as desired.
Here is DSClock in yellow next to the Windows system clock in white:
<https://i.postimg.cc/j2c5tTqg/clock02.jpg>
> Never used it myself but possibly DS Clock might work for you.
> https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/index.html
Hi GlowingBlueMist,
Wow. That's a GREAT suggestion.
o People like you are why Usenet is still a great collaborative tool!
*DS Clock worked PERFECTLY in my very first test just now!*
o <https://i.postimg.cc/4N3gfwZz/clock01.jpg>
And it worked perfectly in my second test, just now:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/j2c5tTqg/clock02.jpg>
While the DS Clock options are different from ClocX options, DS Clock seems
to do EXACTLY what ClocX does, but in _digital_ instead of in analog
output!
As per a post from "n/a", I gave the wrong URL to ClocX:
o DS Clock: <https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/> (A digital clock
display)
o ClocX: <http://www.clocx.net/> (An analog clock display)
The main advantage (to me) of these clock displays is that they can be set
to display _any_ time zone's time, which is what I needed since my system
time zone is set to fluctuate randomly (using a script that randomly makes
use of the Windows "tzutil.exe" command).
DS Clock also synchronizes the system time to any given time server,
which is an added bonus (I'm not sure _how_ Windows system sync time
though, so maybe that sync is not even needed).
I like that it works with all Windows, even down to Windows XP!
As always, I wrote up an installation log, which I reproduce here so that
others can benefit from your wonderful advice!
-------------- begin installation log ---------------
Obtain DS Clock 4.0 (64-bit, 32-bit) from:
<https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/index.html>
My screenshot:
<https://i.postimg.cc/4N3gfwZz/clock01.jpg>
This is the key advertising blurb...
DS Clock is a FREE digital desktop clock that displays variable date & time
information built from the format string.
The program allows you to fully customize its look and feel.
You can select any combination of date, time, and time zones,
insert any text, pick custom colors and fonts, set custom sounds
to play at the top of the hour, play real Westminster chimes, etc.
DS Clock can synchronize your computer's clock with Atomic Time Servers.
DS Clock is available on these platforms:
o Windows 10 (32-bit & 64-bit)
o Windows 8.1/8 (32-bit & 64)
o Windows 7 (32-bit & 64)
o Windows Vista/2008 (32-bit & 64)
o Windows XP/2003 (32-bit)
I saved the installer to: C:\software\hardware\time\dsclock\dsc400r-x64
The setup wants to install in: C:\Program Files\DS Clock
I put it in: C:\app\hardware\time\dsclock (next to ClocX & T-Clock)
The first time it runs it phones home (twice):
<http://www.dualitysoft.com/t/dsc-install?src=dsc-install&version=4.0.0.2&os=10.0.17763&pi=x64&pa=x64>
<https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/thankyou.html?src=dsc-install&version=4.0.0.2>
It opens to the "DS Clock Options" form which has two tabs:
o Clock (pick any desired date format, e.g., hh:mm:ss tt - MMMM dd, ddd)
o Synchronization (pick whether to auto sync & the time server)
The default shows the "system time", which, for me, isn't what I wanted.
Luckily, it allows you to set it to a time zone, which _is_ what I want!
What's really nice is that the display itself is the most real time
I've ever seen _any_ formattable display, where it displays the result
literally while you type the text (seemingly at the very instant), without
so much as an "enter" command or "ok" button press.
This is what I ended up with using:
#085 ddd MMM dd ==> 5:54 PM Sat Mar 30
Although I kind of like this slightly longer format also:
#085 dddd MMMM dd ==> 5:54 PM Saturday March 30
It seems I can change the fonts & sizes, but for now, I won't bother,
unless it affects the fingerprinting in browser tests. If you turn off the
custom fonts, it seems to use the same font as the Windows task bar clock,
where you can set the text color and background as desired.
Here is DSClock in yellow next to the Windows system clock in white:
<https://i.postimg.cc/j2c5tTqg/clock02.jpg>
Neil Turkenkopf
Apr 2, 2019, 12:15:06 PM4/2/19
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Hi folks!
I've been following this thread with interest because I've also been
searching for a program like this for quite a while. I already use
"Rainlendar" and it faithfully played an hourly chime for me - until a
Windows Update UNinstalled my Realtek sound program without warning.
(Strangely enough, I can still hear this sound play, but *only* when using
Bluetooth headphones!) Anyway, a BIG public "Thank You!" to Arlen Holder for
this great tip - it works great and I have my sound again!! :-D
Neil ━D
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"arlen holder" wrote in message news:q7p5s9$9b6$1...@news.mixmin.net...
I've been following this thread with interest because I've also been
searching for a program like this for quite a while. I already use
"Rainlendar" and it faithfully played an hourly chime for me - until a
Windows Update UNinstalled my Realtek sound program without warning.
(Strangely enough, I can still hear this sound play, but *only* when using
Bluetooth headphones!) Anyway, a BIG public "Thank You!" to Arlen Holder for
this great tip - it works great and I have my sound again!! :-D
Neil ━D
--
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"arlen holder" wrote in message news:q7p5s9$9b6$1...@news.mixmin.net...
arlen holder
Apr 3, 2019, 3:11:08 AM4/3/19
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 10:15:01 -0600, Neil Turkenkopf wrote:
> I already use "Rainlendar"
Hi Neil Turkenkopf,
Thanks to GlowingBlueMist, we have good solutions for an external clock:
o DSclock (digital) <https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/index.html>
o ClocX (analog) <http://www.clocx.net/>
where some people also use a clock that replaces the system tray clock
o T-clock (system) <https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases>
It's strange you mention Rainlendar, because the _only_ problem I have is
that Rainlendar uses the _system_ clock, and not its own time-zoned clock.
That's too bad because my scripts randomly run tzutil.exe to rotate the
system time zone, which affects nothing adversely, EXCEPT Rainlendar.
It would be nice if Rainlendar used its own TimeZone just like ClocX and
DSClock do.
The main reason I'm using Rainlendar is that I have a privacy-based local
calendar solution that doesn't require the Internet.
o I view & modify the desktop calendar using Rainlendar lite freeware
o I view & modify the Android calendar using SimpleMobileTools
o On iOS, unfortunately, this basic functionality doesn't appear to exist
What's beautiful about this method is...
o There is zero need to put your calendar on "the cloud"
o You simply import/export text "ics" icalendar format files
o The Windows/Linux/Android calendar programs easily "merge'
o So you can edit the iCal file on _any_ platform (but iOS)
*Linux* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download>
*Windows* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download>
*MacOS* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download>
*Android* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.calendar.pro>
*iOS* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o iOS appears to completely lack this basic privacy-based functionality
> I already use "Rainlendar"
Hi Neil Turkenkopf,
Thanks to GlowingBlueMist, we have good solutions for an external clock:
o DSclock (digital) <https://www.dualitysoft.com/dsclock/index.html>
o ClocX (analog) <http://www.clocx.net/>
where some people also use a clock that replaces the system tray clock
o T-clock (system) <https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases>
It's strange you mention Rainlendar, because the _only_ problem I have is
that Rainlendar uses the _system_ clock, and not its own time-zoned clock.
That's too bad because my scripts randomly run tzutil.exe to rotate the
system time zone, which affects nothing adversely, EXCEPT Rainlendar.
It would be nice if Rainlendar used its own TimeZone just like ClocX and
DSClock do.
The main reason I'm using Rainlendar is that I have a privacy-based local
calendar solution that doesn't require the Internet.
o I view & modify the desktop calendar using Rainlendar lite freeware
o I view & modify the Android calendar using SimpleMobileTools
o On iOS, unfortunately, this basic functionality doesn't appear to exist
What's beautiful about this method is...
o There is zero need to put your calendar on "the cloud"
o You simply import/export text "ics" icalendar format files
o The Windows/Linux/Android calendar programs easily "merge'
o So you can edit the iCal file on _any_ platform (but iOS)
*Linux* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download>
*Windows* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download>
*MacOS* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download>
*Android* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.calendar.pro>
*iOS* non-cloud privacy-based local LAN calendar solution:
o iOS appears to completely lack this basic privacy-based functionality
Arlen Holder
Aug 29, 2020, 6:27:50 PM8/29/20
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:04:15 -0400, knuttle wrote:
> I don't know of the program you mentioned, but
> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock
> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases/tag/v2.4.4%23492-rc
> Clock64.exe
>
> works for me.
Thanks for that purposefully helpful advice about T-Clock (& TClock):
o <http://web.archive.org/web/20160202023839/http://greggdeselms.com/tclock.html>
The three most often currently suggested free clock apps appear to be:
1. clocx <http://www.clocx.net>
2. dsclock <http://www.dualitysoft.com>
3. t-clock <https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases>
My summary of those three wonderful free clock apps is as follows:
1. clocx has a very simple yet configurable analog desktop clock
2. dsclock has a more robust configurable digital desktop clock
3. t-clock has a very robust configurable digital taskbar clock
With respect to the location the clock will likely be placed, I think:
1. clocx is usually placed on the desktop; not necessarily the taskbar
2. dsclock is often placed on the desktop or directly over the taskbar
3. t-clock is generally a replacement for the Windows taskbar clock
With respect to the default system timezone (TZ), I know:
1. clocx displays the time in any timezone independent of the system TZ
2. dsclock displays the time in any timezone independent of the system TZ
3. t-clock is limited to just the time using the current system timezone
Given the limitations of t-clock, it doesn't suit my needs
o However it's a wonderfully robust replacement for Windows' taskbar clocks
For more detailed information on t-clock, please see this from John C.:
o White-Tiger T-Clock Redux: Updated version of T-Clock
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/MUxmAVcShTo>
-- cut below for description by John C. --
I like having the date down in the tray, so I like T-Clock. The original
version of the program is no longer being developed, but it was open
source so I looked around to see if anybody had taken it over.
Fortunately, this is the case:
https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/
________________________________________________________________________
T-Clock Redux is an enhanced fork of Stoic Joker's T-Clock 2010
with ISO week number support, bug fixes and the ability to use Windows'
default calendar and tooltips.
T-Clock (called TClock), originally written by Kazubon in the early
90's, was a popular classic that was on the edge of extinction when
Windows started going 64bit. ... Stoic Joker simply chose not to let
that happen. And now it's up to us to continue their efforts.
Differences to Stoic Joker's T-Clock 2010 Build 95/98
+ supports Win10 with 1st-Anniversary update (v2.4.1)
+ Unicode support (v2.4.1)
* improved file structure
+ ISO-8601 week number support (Wi)
+ original Windows calendar and tooltip usable
+ support for clocks on every additional taskbar on Win8+
+ system/user dependent default colors
+ clock text angle freely adjustable
+ live update of clock text related changes (see what happens as you
change it and before you apply it)
+ clock text always automatically centered
+ right mouse click can be customized
+ mouse button 4 and 5 supported
* improved taskbar support such as horizontal vs vertical and size
+ calendar hides on 2nd click if opened before (autohide must be
enabled, Windows default behavior)
+ custom calendar can now show X past months, additional
improvements
+ extended right-click menu with more Windows like behavior
(hold down CTRL or SHIFT to get "Run ..." and "Exit Explorer" items)
+ simplified mouse click preferences page
+ default configuration with Windows like behavior and clock with
line-break on Vista+ (easier for first-time users)
+ more mouse commands / customization
+ overall improved settings dialog (so many changes.. can't name
them all)
* improved Stopwatch (hotkeys, export, stats)
* improved drag&drop support
! some bugfixes
* some minor and major rewrites and changes
! can be compiled with MinGW/GCC (allows more people to work on it
and also fixed bugs)
! fixed clock text transparency issues on Vista+
+ portable mode using .ini files as configuration storage (v2.4.0)
+ inbuild update checker (v2.4.0)
+ enhanced time format editor incl. realtime preview tbd
+ ability to use different timezones on modifiers tbd
+ LClock formating options such as different fonts and positions for
time and date tbd
+ working timezone identifiers tbd
+ multilingual version? tbd
+ resource usage % format option (CPU,RAM maybe GPU) tbd
+ improved time synchronization incl. autorun at startup (requires
admin rights for "install") tbd
+ mouseover customization, for example different time format, color,
border or even current weather tbd
+ switching clock text, eg. every 2 seconds another one tbd
+ multiple clock text presets? eg. switch between them on mouse
click tbd
+ maybe current sun state picture as clock background (plugin) tbd
+ improved hotkey support tbd
Requirements
Windows 2000+ (up to Windows 10 as of 2014)
Homepage: https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/
Download: https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases/tag/v2.4.4%23492-rc
(Portable version is available. I downloaded the release candidate and
it works perfectly.)
-- cut above for description by John C. --
See also:
o Found this speaking time vbs batch script today
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/Nv8cJ229qeI>
--
Setting up a new Windows system usually takes hundreds of small tweaks.
> I don't know of the program you mentioned, but
> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock
> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases/tag/v2.4.4%23492-rc
> Clock64.exe
>
> works for me.
Thanks for that purposefully helpful advice about T-Clock (& TClock):
o <http://web.archive.org/web/20160202023839/http://greggdeselms.com/tclock.html>
The three most often currently suggested free clock apps appear to be:
1. clocx <http://www.clocx.net>
2. dsclock <http://www.dualitysoft.com>
3. t-clock <https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases>
My summary of those three wonderful free clock apps is as follows:
1. clocx has a very simple yet configurable analog desktop clock
2. dsclock has a more robust configurable digital desktop clock
3. t-clock has a very robust configurable digital taskbar clock
With respect to the location the clock will likely be placed, I think:
1. clocx is usually placed on the desktop; not necessarily the taskbar
2. dsclock is often placed on the desktop or directly over the taskbar
3. t-clock is generally a replacement for the Windows taskbar clock
With respect to the default system timezone (TZ), I know:
1. clocx displays the time in any timezone independent of the system TZ
2. dsclock displays the time in any timezone independent of the system TZ
3. t-clock is limited to just the time using the current system timezone
Given the limitations of t-clock, it doesn't suit my needs
o However it's a wonderfully robust replacement for Windows' taskbar clocks
For more detailed information on t-clock, please see this from John C.:
o White-Tiger T-Clock Redux: Updated version of T-Clock
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/MUxmAVcShTo>
-- cut below for description by John C. --
I like having the date down in the tray, so I like T-Clock. The original
version of the program is no longer being developed, but it was open
source so I looked around to see if anybody had taken it over.
Fortunately, this is the case:
https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/
________________________________________________________________________
T-Clock Redux is an enhanced fork of Stoic Joker's T-Clock 2010
with ISO week number support, bug fixes and the ability to use Windows'
default calendar and tooltips.
T-Clock (called TClock), originally written by Kazubon in the early
90's, was a popular classic that was on the edge of extinction when
Windows started going 64bit. ... Stoic Joker simply chose not to let
that happen. And now it's up to us to continue their efforts.
Differences to Stoic Joker's T-Clock 2010 Build 95/98
+ supports Win10 with 1st-Anniversary update (v2.4.1)
+ Unicode support (v2.4.1)
* improved file structure
+ ISO-8601 week number support (Wi)
+ original Windows calendar and tooltip usable
+ support for clocks on every additional taskbar on Win8+
+ system/user dependent default colors
+ clock text angle freely adjustable
+ live update of clock text related changes (see what happens as you
change it and before you apply it)
+ clock text always automatically centered
+ right mouse click can be customized
+ mouse button 4 and 5 supported
* improved taskbar support such as horizontal vs vertical and size
+ calendar hides on 2nd click if opened before (autohide must be
enabled, Windows default behavior)
+ custom calendar can now show X past months, additional
improvements
+ extended right-click menu with more Windows like behavior
(hold down CTRL or SHIFT to get "Run ..." and "Exit Explorer" items)
+ simplified mouse click preferences page
+ default configuration with Windows like behavior and clock with
line-break on Vista+ (easier for first-time users)
+ more mouse commands / customization
+ overall improved settings dialog (so many changes.. can't name
them all)
* improved Stopwatch (hotkeys, export, stats)
* improved drag&drop support
! some bugfixes
* some minor and major rewrites and changes
! can be compiled with MinGW/GCC (allows more people to work on it
and also fixed bugs)
! fixed clock text transparency issues on Vista+
+ portable mode using .ini files as configuration storage (v2.4.0)
+ inbuild update checker (v2.4.0)
+ enhanced time format editor incl. realtime preview tbd
+ ability to use different timezones on modifiers tbd
+ LClock formating options such as different fonts and positions for
time and date tbd
+ working timezone identifiers tbd
+ multilingual version? tbd
+ resource usage % format option (CPU,RAM maybe GPU) tbd
+ improved time synchronization incl. autorun at startup (requires
admin rights for "install") tbd
+ mouseover customization, for example different time format, color,
border or even current weather tbd
+ switching clock text, eg. every 2 seconds another one tbd
+ multiple clock text presets? eg. switch between them on mouse
click tbd
+ maybe current sun state picture as clock background (plugin) tbd
+ improved hotkey support tbd
Requirements
Windows 2000+ (up to Windows 10 as of 2014)
Homepage: https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/
Download: https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases/tag/v2.4.4%23492-rc
(Portable version is available. I downloaded the release candidate and
it works perfectly.)
-- cut above for description by John C. --
See also:
o Found this speaking time vbs batch script today
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/Nv8cJ229qeI>
--
Setting up a new Windows system usually takes hundreds of small tweaks.
TPayne
Aug 29, 2020, 6:47:41 PM8/29/20
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On 8/29/2020 6:27 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:04:15 -0400, knuttle wrote:
>
>> I don't know of the program you mentioned, but
>> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock
>> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases/tag/v2.4.4%23492-rc
>> Clock64.exe
>>
Does anyone make it all the way through all the shit that Arlen piles up?
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:04:15 -0400, knuttle wrote:
>
>> I don't know of the program you mentioned, but
>> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock
>> https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases/tag/v2.4.4%23492-rc
>> Clock64.exe
>>
Arlen Holder
Aug 29, 2020, 6:57:38 PM8/29/20
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UPDATE:
Setting up a new Windows system often takes hundreds of custom tweaks.
Given the strategic purpose of Usenet, for some, is to add value,
see also this batch script which randomly randomizes your system TZ.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/RVsHGmnG/dsclock.jpg>
==< cut below for tzrandom.bat >==
@echo off
rem tzrandom.bat randomly sets the Windows system timezone
rem by Herbert Kleebauer, 20200415, alt.msdos.batch
setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
:loop
set /a n=137*%random%/32768*3+1
for /f "tokens=*" %%i in ('tzutil /l^|more +%n%') do set a=%%i& goto :l1
:l1
echo.
echo.
echo setting time zone to: %a%
tzutil.exe /s "%a%"
:: wait 6-24h
set /a n=20864+(%random%*2)
set /a h=%n%/3600
set /a m=(n-(%h%*3600))/60
echo waiting %h% hours, %m% minutes
timeout %n%
goto :loop
exit 0
==< cut above for tzrandom.bat >==
See details in:
o What method do you prefer for scheduling a batch file to run silently
[sans a command window displaying]?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.msdos.batch/tzrandom|sort:date/alt.msdos.batch/JZMlGo_2__E/PsN-pab1AwAJ>
While we're on the subject, here are scripts that create a Windows XP-style
Cascade menu (of as many as 137 timezone shortcuts) any set of which can
be used to quickly change the System Timezone using the standard
easy-to-use
Windows XP accordion style menus that never left Windows 10
(despite that some, & perhaps even most, people think they did).
o Can a Windows batch script perform the equivalent of a cat until the end
of file delimiter (cat > foo << eof)?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.msdos.batch/tzrandom|sort:date/alt.msdos.batch/0EE2VwfKwYc/fjh7tvLpAAAJ>
==< cut below for tzmakemenu.bat >==
@echo off
rem tzmakemenu.bat
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
set t=0
for /f "tokens=*" %%i in ('tzutil /l') do (
set /a t=t+1
set b=!a!
set a=%%i
if !t!==2 (echo REM !b!>"!a!.bat"
echo tzutil.exe /s "!a!">>"!a!.bat"
set t=0))
exit 0
==< cut above for tzmakemenu.bat >==
*This manual script randomly executes just _one_ of those 137 files:
==< cut below for tzsetmenu.bat >==
@echo off
rem tzsetmenu.bat
setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
cd .\tzfiles
set n=0
for %%f in (*.*) do (
set /a n+=1
set "file[!n!]=%%f"
)
set /a num=%random% %% 137-1
"!file[%num%]!"
exit 0
==< cut above for tzsetmenu.bat >==
For setting up native Windows 10 menus for WinXP-style start menus, see:
o Can windows 10 be made to look like XP?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/GIEGzBnB1SA/lvxBoSJaBQAJ>
o Why does anyone bother to install Classic Shell on Windows?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/dTHKXIdlqcw/6e7e7dq_AQAJ>
o How can we further IMPROVE the efficiency of the Windows left-side
desktop pane?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/OoKl4lKrFUc/vw8ozQdkAQAJ>
o Please follow this cut-and-paste tutorial to get batch command shortcuts
working perfectly on Windows
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/1PzeGP4KMTU/tTbcd9zxAAAJ>
o What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
[sic]
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/ySVGbayhLSk/zXK3PjijAwAJ>
o Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows
menu system
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eWU-jOkFRtU/lkVU8yolBQAJ>
etc.
--
Setting up a new Windows system often takes hundreds of custom tweaks.
Setting up a new Windows system often takes hundreds of custom tweaks.
Given the strategic purpose of Usenet, for some, is to add value,
see also this batch script which randomly randomizes your system TZ.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/RVsHGmnG/dsclock.jpg>
==< cut below for tzrandom.bat >==
@echo off
rem tzrandom.bat randomly sets the Windows system timezone
rem by Herbert Kleebauer, 20200415, alt.msdos.batch
setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
:loop
set /a n=137*%random%/32768*3+1
for /f "tokens=*" %%i in ('tzutil /l^|more +%n%') do set a=%%i& goto :l1
:l1
echo.
echo.
echo setting time zone to: %a%
tzutil.exe /s "%a%"
:: wait 6-24h
set /a n=20864+(%random%*2)
set /a h=%n%/3600
set /a m=(n-(%h%*3600))/60
echo waiting %h% hours, %m% minutes
timeout %n%
goto :loop
exit 0
==< cut above for tzrandom.bat >==
See details in:
o What method do you prefer for scheduling a batch file to run silently
[sans a command window displaying]?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.msdos.batch/tzrandom|sort:date/alt.msdos.batch/JZMlGo_2__E/PsN-pab1AwAJ>
While we're on the subject, here are scripts that create a Windows XP-style
Cascade menu (of as many as 137 timezone shortcuts) any set of which can
be used to quickly change the System Timezone using the standard
easy-to-use
Windows XP accordion style menus that never left Windows 10
(despite that some, & perhaps even most, people think they did).
o Can a Windows batch script perform the equivalent of a cat until the end
of file delimiter (cat > foo << eof)?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.msdos.batch/tzrandom|sort:date/alt.msdos.batch/0EE2VwfKwYc/fjh7tvLpAAAJ>
==< cut below for tzmakemenu.bat >==
@echo off
rem tzmakemenu.bat
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
set t=0
for /f "tokens=*" %%i in ('tzutil /l') do (
set /a t=t+1
set b=!a!
set a=%%i
if !t!==2 (echo REM !b!>"!a!.bat"
echo tzutil.exe /s "!a!">>"!a!.bat"
set t=0))
exit 0
==< cut above for tzmakemenu.bat >==
*This manual script randomly executes just _one_ of those 137 files:
==< cut below for tzsetmenu.bat >==
@echo off
rem tzsetmenu.bat
setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
cd .\tzfiles
set n=0
for %%f in (*.*) do (
set /a n+=1
set "file[!n!]=%%f"
)
set /a num=%random% %% 137-1
"!file[%num%]!"
exit 0
==< cut above for tzsetmenu.bat >==
For setting up native Windows 10 menus for WinXP-style start menus, see:
o Can windows 10 be made to look like XP?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/GIEGzBnB1SA/lvxBoSJaBQAJ>
o Why does anyone bother to install Classic Shell on Windows?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/dTHKXIdlqcw/6e7e7dq_AQAJ>
o How can we further IMPROVE the efficiency of the Windows left-side
desktop pane?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/OoKl4lKrFUc/vw8ozQdkAQAJ>
o Please follow this cut-and-paste tutorial to get batch command shortcuts
working perfectly on Windows
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/1PzeGP4KMTU/tTbcd9zxAAAJ>
o What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
[sic]
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/ySVGbayhLSk/zXK3PjijAwAJ>
o Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows
menu system
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eWU-jOkFRtU/lkVU8yolBQAJ>
etc.
--
Setting up a new Windows system often takes hundreds of custom tweaks.
Paul
Aug 29, 2020, 10:23:16 PM8/29/20
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I wonder what that purpose might be ? <scratches head>
Over in comp.unix.programmer, it's pretty obvious what
USENET was intended for. A spamming session from groups.google.com
where the Abuse button no longer works :-) And at least one
poster replied to a spam post with "de-peer Google Groups now!".
If the Cabal is listening, I heartily agree. A dead administrator
(probably slumped over at his desk at Google), is a useless administrator.
Paul
Arlen Holder
Aug 30, 2020, 6:45:38 AM8/30/20
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 22:23:16 -0400, Paul wrote:
> I wasn't aware that "USENET had a strategic purpose".
Hi Paul, (fup to a.c.f & m.p.w.g respected),
> I wasn't aware that "USENET had a strategic purpose".
That's a good point of view, where, of course, Usenet has a strategic
purpose, which may or may not be known or comprehended by each of us.
Just like any communications venue, whether it be a web forum, a telephone
hotline, a newspaper outlet, etc., has a strategic purpose, again, which
may or may not be known or comprehended by each of us.
One strategic purpose which is apparently not known to many on Usenet is
that it's a useful no-login web-searchable permanent archive of value.
For example, I'm setting up that BSOD system, where there are literally
scores of tweaks that I had learned about in the past few years that I
needed to dig up the solutions for, in order to re-tweak the new setup.
Many of those you helped me with - which I appreciate - and some of those
we all failed at (such as dual monitors both having the taskbar system tray
- although I'm testing a reputed workaround using DisplayFusion freeware:
o < https://www.displayfusion.com/FAQ/#freeversion>
With your help, and that of the 1 out of 1,000... we have solved many
technical problems together, all of which are permanently archived for the
intelligent few to obtain via web searches to these very newsgroups, e.g.,
o <http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware>
o <http://tinyurl.com/windowsxp-general>
> I wonder what that purpose might be ? <scratches head>
create and disseminate, or to obtain and implement solutions of value.
I agree others may have far less lofty goals, where, for example, common
worthless pieces of shit simply are on Usenet for their own amusement.
For example, this TPayne nym (<tp...@nr.net> eternal-september.org,
Thunderbird/52.5.0) has never once added anything of value to Usenet, where
I suspect it's just yet another nym of Pooh, like Jenny Telia apparently
is; but even if it is not, it doesn't matter as none of those three have
ever contributed even a single thread of value in their entire existence.
> Over in comp.unix.programmer, it's pretty obvious what
> USENET was intended for. A spamming session from groups.google.com
> where the Abuse button no longer works :-)
administrator of a domain when we received the occasional spam (well before
the word "spam" was commonly accepted.
The only thing I do with the worthless pieces of shit is ignore them (i.e.,
not feed them) on threads I don't care come to a technical solution.
For threads I do care to come to a technical solution, once the worthless
pieces of shit have infested it, it's _already_ ruined in terms of
answering the question - so I intentionally point to what the worthless
pieces of shit write - where my strategic intent is to make it "less fun"
for them.
For some, like Alan Baker or Snit, it's impossible; but for others, they
still have a shred of common human decency left, and they "may" go off and
infest other threads as a result.
In the case of Pooh, Telia, and this TPayne nym, they have no decency left.
o So you'll notice I simply ignored this reputed TPayne nym of Pooh's.
> And at least one poster replied to a spam post with "de-peer Google Groups now!".
been destroyed by those who are on Usenet purely for their pwn amusement.
o <http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>
> If the Cabal is listening, I heartily agree.
o Technical value
That's why I'm different than many, and you too are quite different from
many because of (at least) two endearing qualities you possess:
1. You're purposefully helpful, and,
2. You're knowledgeable.
I could easily list many worthless pieces of shit who are infinitely always
a. Not purposefully helpful
b. Are ignorati
> A dead administrator (probably slumped over at his desk at Google),
> is a useless administrator.
o For me, my strategy for the ignorati is half & half
A. On threads I don't care about, I ignore the worthless pieces of shit.
B. On threads I care about coming to an answer, I point out what they are.
Overall, on these newsgroups, the worthless pieces of shit outnumber the
intelligent few by at least a hundred to one, maybe a thousand to one.
Yet, still, Usenet is a wonderfully rich archive of useful technical
solutions, which I mine daily as I now set up a new Windows system.
In summary, every time I ask a question of these Usenet newsgroups, I
almost always follow that question through to a satisfactory solution,
which, therefore, is permanently archived for the intelligent few to mine.
--
Those who have never added value to Usenet long ago proved they can't.
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