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FGGH

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Jul 18, 2007, 9:46:00 AM7/18/07
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I've added another 2GB to my system (K8Upgrade-VM800 Motherboard) but only
2GB is recognised.

The new 2GB is recognised when I look at my BIOS, but XP is stuck on RAM of
2048MB.

I've tried MAXMEM in Boot.ini, but that won't go any higher than 2048.

What am I doing wrong?

O.@discussions.microsoft.com Jason O.

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Jul 18, 2007, 10:12:02 AM7/18/07
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Your bios might not be configured to see more than 2gb. I can't remember
exactly what the setting was but it something with remapping the memory.

Jason

FGGH

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Jul 18, 2007, 10:38:01 AM7/18/07
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Yeh, I've tried all the bios settings, but there's nothing remotely similar
to 'Remapping' or anything to do with memory. It just states the 2 x slots
and that there's RAM of 2048 in each.

Bob I

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Jul 18, 2007, 10:39:27 AM7/18/07
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UNcheck MAXMEM, don't put anything in it.

FGGH

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Jul 18, 2007, 10:56:04 AM7/18/07
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It was unchecked when I first went into Boot.ini. So I checked it and tried
to change the setting to 4096. But it wouldn't let me - it always went back
to 2048.

So I left it unchecked again.

Ken Blake

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Jul 18, 2007, 11:07:31 AM7/18/07
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FGGH wrote:

> I've added another 2GB to my system (K8Upgrade-VM800 Motherboard) but
> only 2GB is recognised.


Where do you see the 2MB number being recognized?

I don't know why you're only seeing 2MB, but I'll point out that you'll
never see all 4MB. The maximum is around 3.1GB. That's because all 32-bit
versions of Windows have to share their 4GB address space with memory used
for hardware like your graphics card.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


FGGH

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Jul 18, 2007, 11:18:05 AM7/18/07
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Yes, I'm aware of the 3.1GB. But I don't get that high!

I see '2GB of RAM' displayed when I right click on 'My Computer' and go to
properties.


Bob I

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Jul 18, 2007, 4:30:27 PM7/18/07
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Check back tomorrow, the users here are from around the world.

FGGH wrote:

> Anyone else help?

AJR

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Jul 18, 2007, 5:32:39 PM7/18/07
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??????????????

"FGGH" <FG...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone else help?


Plato

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Jul 19, 2007, 12:38:12 AM7/19/07
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=?Utf-8?B?RkdHSA==?= wrote:
>
> I've added another 2GB to my system (K8Upgrade-VM800 Motherboard) but only
> 2GB is recognised.

Your new ram is NOT compatible with your old ram. Take out the old ram.

--
http://www.bootdisk.com/

FGGH

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Jul 19, 2007, 2:26:04 AM7/19/07
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What are you talking about Plato? I suspect you're trying to promote your
company.

No help at all.

M.I.5¾

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Jul 19, 2007, 3:55:15 AM7/19/07
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"FGGH" <FG...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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What on earth are you doing that requires so much memory? There is not
usually much advantage to be gained by giving XP more than 1 GB of memory.
Exceptions are heavy duty applications such as editing high definition
video, but even then 2 GB is as much as you need. Going much beyond that
gives little advantage, not least because of limitations in XP.


FGGH

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Jul 19, 2007, 4:06:08 AM7/19/07
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My pc has slowed down so much. I run e-learning development software,
graphics software, etc - in addition to normal office applications.

Just launching a programme now takes a couple of minutes!

That's why I thought extra RAM would do the trick.

Any other suggestions?

Uncle Grumpy

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Jul 19, 2007, 4:50:50 AM7/19/07
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FGGH <FG...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Just launching a programme now takes a couple of minutes!
>
>That's why I thought extra RAM would do the trick.
>
>Any other suggestions?

You need a lot more than extra RAM.

FGGH

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Jul 19, 2007, 6:46:03 AM7/19/07
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> You need a lot more than extra RAM.

Such as?

HeyBub

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Jul 19, 2007, 8:48:40 AM7/19/07
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Ah, so the real problem is slowdown, not insufficient RAM.


FGGH

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Jul 19, 2007, 9:28:01 AM7/19/07
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>
> Ah, so the real problem is slowdown, not insufficient RAM.
>

Yes, that's right. Programmes and everything takes far too long. When I
print something, the whole system freezes.

Anna

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Jul 19, 2007, 9:42:20 AM7/19/07
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"FGGH" <FG...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Ah, so the real problem is slowdown, not insufficient RAM.
>>
>
> Yes, that's right. Programmes and everything takes far too long. When I
> print something, the whole system freezes.


FGGH:
It really would help if you would provide specific details as to your
system, e.g., the make/model of your motherboard, your processor, your video
card, your hard drive(s), what kind of system you're running (RAID?), and
any other details re the PC components and programs you're running, etc.,
etc., so that you could get some intelligent & meaningful responses &
suggestions to your query.

When you add comments like "When I print something, the whole system
freezes.", it seems apparent your problem(s) involve much more than adding
RAM. Again, detail the problem(s) you're running into - be as specific as
you can.
Anna


FGGH

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Jul 19, 2007, 10:58:09 AM7/19/07
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OK. Here goes:

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Sempron 3400,
2000 MHz (10 x 200)
Motherboard Name ASk ROCK
Motherboard Chipset VIA K8M400, AMD Hammer
System Memory 2048 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (01/06/06)
Communication Port Communications Port
(COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port
(LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter RADEON 9200 SERIES -
Secondary (128 MB)
Video Adapter RADEON 9200 SERIES
(128 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon 9200 SE
(RV280)
Monitor Dell 2407WFP
(Analog) [NoDB] (CC3026B31YHS)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter IC Ensemble M Audio
Audiophile

Storage:
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y080L0 (80
GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
Disk Drive OEI-USB CF/SM/SD/MS
USB Device
Optical Drive RW-523252
Optical Drive TSSTcorp CD-ROM
SH-C522C

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 78152 MB (47577 MB
free)

System Properties:
Product K8Upgrade-VM800
Version 1.00


Physical Memory:
Total 2047 MB
Used 682 MB
Free 1364 MB
Utilization 33 %

Swap Space:
Total 5986 MB
Used 882 MB
Free 5104 MB
Utilization 15 %

Virtual Memory:
Total 8033 MB
Used 1564 MB
Free 6468 MB
Utilization 19 %

Problems & Suggestions:
Problem AGP is disabled.
This may cause performance penalty.

--------[ Processes
]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
alg.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
4636 KB 1872 KB
Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
3892 KB 2248 KB
Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
3140 KB 2080 KB
atiptaxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\atiptaxx.exe
5084 KB 4484 KB
avgamsvr.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
520 KB 4852 KB
avgcc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe
804 KB 32052 KB
avgfwsrv.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgfwsrv.exe
6640 KB 3280 KB
avgupsvc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
1412 KB 2100 KB
cli.exe C:\Program Files\ATI
Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe 5716 KB 23376
KB
cli.exe C:\Program Files\ATI
Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe 10420 KB 19268
KB
cli.exe C:\Program Files\ATI
Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe 5216 KB 18824
KB
csrss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
5088 KB 3256 KB
ctfmon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
4980 KB 2488 KB
Dragdiag.exe C:\Program Files\Virgin Net
Broadband\Dragdiag.exe 4224 KB 2220 KB
explorer.exe C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe
12672 KB 7228 KB
Explorer.EXE C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
11248 KB 28248 KB
firefox.exe C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
59916 KB 48776 KB
gcasDtServ.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft
AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe 13840 KB 9416 KB
keyboard.exe C:\Program Files\Delux\PS2 Keyboard English
Edition\keyboard.exe 4272 KB 2552 KB
LEXBCES.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
3928 KB 3992 KB
LEXPPS.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
5192 KB 3208 KB
lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
7872 KB 6232 KB
lxbrbmgr.exe C:\Program Files\Lexmark 3100
Series\lxbrbmgr.exe 4308 KB 2372 KB
lxbrbmon.exe C:\Program Files\Lexmark 3100
Series\lxbrbmon.exe 2844 KB 1916 KB
lxbrcmon.exe C:\Program Files\Lexmark 3100
Series\lxbrcmon.exe 3128 KB 2028 KB
Mega Sound Recorder.exe C:\Program Files\MegaSoundRecorder\Mega Sound
Recorder.exe 8404 KB 6888 KB
OUTLOOK.EXE C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office\OUTLOOK.EXE 58780 KB 43304 KB
raid_tool.exe C:\Program Files\VIA\RAID\raid_tool.exe
4852 KB 2816 KB
realsched.exe C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe 220 KB 2476 KB
SDTrayApp.exe C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\SDTrayApp.exe
1208 KB 16492 KB
SearchIndexer.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\SearchIndexer.exe
6416 KB 16100 KB
services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
3996 KB 3308 KB
SmartSerialMail.exe C:\Program Files\JAM
Software\SmartSerialMail\SmartSerialMail.exe 31936 KB 23848
KB
smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
404 KB 172 KB
spoolsv.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
7364 KB 5820 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
4780 KB 3544 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
8312 KB 5620 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
3452 KB 1552 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
5016 KB 4076 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
5508 KB 4664 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
5852 KB 4180 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
30736 KB 20140 KB
svcntaux.exe C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\svcntaux.exe
336 KB 8900 KB
swdsvc.exe C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdsvc.exe
24400 KB 226 MB
VTTimer.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\VTTimer.exe
2980 KB 1984 KB
winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
4928 KB 8176 KB
WMPNetwk.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Media
Player\WMPNetwk.exe 9296 KB 6700 KB
WMPNSCFG.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Media
Player\WMPNSCFG.exe 4516 KB 2484 KB



--------[ Installed Programs
]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ACA Capture Pro 5.20
5.20 3.5 MB
Adobe Flash Player ActiveX
9.0.45.0 Unknown
Adobe Photoshop CS
CS 183.3 MB
Adobe Reader 8.1.0
8.1.0 Unknown
Adobe Reader Chinese Traditional Fonts
7.0.5 21.2 MB
Advanced Windows Optimizer 5.11
Unknown
Apple Software Update
2.0.0.21 Unknown
Ashampoo WinOptimizer Platinum Suite 2
18.4 MB
Athlon 64 Processor Driver
1.2.2.1 124.0 KB
ATI - Software Uninstall Utility
6.14.10.1014 116.0 KB
ATI Catalyst Control Center
1.2.2314.20337 207.1 MB
ATI Control Panel
12.8 MB
ATI Display Driver
8.252-060503a-038185C-ATI Unknown
Audacity 1.2.6
8.6 MB
AVG Anti-Virus 7.1
29.5 MB
AVIcodec (remove only)
696.0 KB
Castellan
7.6 MB
CCleaner (remove only)
1.3 MB
CDBurnerXP Pro 3
3.0.116 25.8 MB
DiscAPI
2.00.0000 15.8 MB
DivX Player
6.0 4.4 MB
Entrust Enterprise Desktop Solutions eLearning 6.0 Demo
5.9 MB
Eusing Free Registry Cleaner
2.0 MB
EZBack-it-up 2.0.1
2.0.1 3.2 MB
Flash Video Exporter 1.2
1.2 808.0 KB
FLV Player
1.33 Unknown
FTP Commander
2.0 MB
getPlus(R)_dll
Unknown
G-Lock Email Processor
1.80 18.1 MB
Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer
1.1 MB
Google Video Player
7.2 MB
Inno Setup version 5.1.6
5.1.6 3.8 MB
Intellimapper
2.3 5.8 MB
IrfanView (remove only)
1.3 MB
iTunes
7.1.1.5 50.4 MB
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 10
1.5.0.100 120.1 MB
Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_13
1.4.2_13 108.8 MB
K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 1.62
1.62 26.8 MB
Lexmark 3100 Series
22.4 MB
Macromedia Authorware 7.01
7.01 85.3 MB
Macromedia Director MX 2004
59.6 MB
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004
7.0.1 146.0 MB
Macromedia Extension Manager
1.7.240 4.9 MB
Macromedia Fireworks MX 2004
7.0.2 46.1 MB
Macromedia Flash MX 2004
7.2 131.8 MB
Macromedia FreeHand MXa
11.0.2 41.5 MB
Macromedia Shockwave Player
10.1.0.11 Unknown
MedianSoft Joiner-Converter 3.4
3.5 MB
Mega Sound Recorder 1.6.0.0
Unknown
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Hotfix (KB928366)
Unknown
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1
Unknown
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1
1.1.4322 Unknown
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
88.3 MB
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
2.0.50727 Unknown
Microsoft AntiSpyware
1.0 15.7 MB
Microsoft Compression Client Pack 1.0 for Windows XP
1 Unknown
Microsoft Internationalized Domain Names Mitigation APIs
Unknown
Microsoft National Language Support Downlevel APIs
Unknown
Microsoft Office 2000 Disc 2
9.00.2720 124.1 MB
Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Professional
9.00.9327 153.3 MB
Microsoft User-Mode Driver Framework Feature Pack 1.0
Unknown
Mozilla Firefox (2.0.0.2)
2.0.0.2 (en-US) 24.5 MB
Mozilla Firefox (2.0.0.5)
2.0.0.5 (en-US) Unknown
NB-7500p USB 2.0 Data Transfer Cable
808.0 KB
New.net Domains 7.48
7.48 Unknown
PDFCreator
0.8.1 23.1 MB
Pegasus Mail
10.0 MB
PENTAX USB DISK Device
1.02.0000 64.0 KB
Platform
Unknown
PS2 Keyboard English Edition
272.0 KB
QuickTime
7.2.0.240 Unknown
RAPID
1.00.0000 4.2 MB
RealPlayer
37.1 MB
S3 S3Display
Unknown
S3 S3Gamma2
Unknown
S3 S3Info2
Unknown
S3 S3Overlay
Unknown
S3 S3TrayPlus
Unknown
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (KB928365)
2 Unknown
SmartFTP Client 2.0 Setup Files (remove only)
"2.0" 3.5 MB
SmartFTP Client 2.0
2.0.1002 10.5 MB
SmartSerialMail V3.4.2
4.2 MB
SpeedTouch USB Software
2.7 MB
Spyware Doctor 5.0
5.0 46.8 MB
Steinberg Cubase SE
170.9 MB
Steinberg VSTi Collection
875.2 MB
Turbo Lister 2
2.0.0 65.8 MB
Turbo Lister 2
2.0.0 Unknown
Update for Windows XP (KB894391)
1 Unknown
Version 1.0
2.5 MB
VIA Platform Device Manager
1.12 Unknown
VIA/S3G Display Driver 6.14.10.0333
472.0 KB
VIA/S3G Display Driver
3.3 MB
WebFldrs XP
9.50.7523 Unknown
Windows Desktop Search
06.00.5361.0000 3.0 MB
Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications (KB905474)
1.7.0017.0 Unknown
Windows Genuine Advantage v1.3.0254.0
1.3.0254.0 Unknown
Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893803)
3.1 Unknown
Windows Internet Explorer 7
20061017.133151 4.1 MB
Windows Live Messenger
8.1.0178.00 Unknown
Windows Media Connect
13.6 MB
Windows Media Encoder 9 Series
13.6 MB
Windows Media Encoder 9 Series
9.00.2980 Unknown
Windows Media Format 11 runtime
Unknown
Windows Media Format 11 runtime
Unknown
Windows Media Player 11
Unknown
Windows Media Player 11
Unknown
Windows XP Hotfix - KB873339
20041117.092459 Unknown
WinRAR archiver
3.3 MB


Doug W.

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Jul 19, 2007, 11:37:02 AM7/19/07
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No wonder things are slow...you have too many pgms running at
once. Holy moley, I wouldn't have near what you have at
start-up. I only have 1.0 GB of memory and my machine is fast.
-
Doug W.
-
p.s. why is AGP disabled?
-

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FGGH

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Jul 19, 2007, 12:02:03 PM7/19/07
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"Doug W." wrote:

> No wonder things are slow...you have too many pgms running at
> once. Holy moley, I wouldn't have near what you have at
> start-up. I only have 1.0 GB of memory and my machine is fast.
> -
> Doug W.
> -
> p.s. why is AGP disabled?
> -

Thanks Doug. Now I'm getting somewhere.

Don't know why AGP is disabled. What is it? How do I get to it?

And what progs do you think are the problem?

caver1

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Jul 19, 2007, 12:17:07 PM7/19/07
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FGGH wrote:


> 2.7 MB
> Spyware Doctor 5.0
> 5.0 46.8 MB


Spyware doctor could be your problem. If you let it do automatic scans
it will bring your whole computer to a dead stop.
The best thing to do when your computer is crawling is to open Windows
Task Manager click on the Process tab and in the CPU column see what is
eating up your processor. then you can right click on it and click on
end process. See how that improves things. If it works either get rid of
that program or reset the settings for it.
Sometimes a programs auto update will do the same thing. That is why I
always manually update.
Caver1

caver1

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Jul 19, 2007, 12:33:31 PM7/19/07
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I also notice that you have Adobe Reader8 on your computer. I got rid of
it as foxit reader does just as well and I had the same problem that
you described. I went into Task manager and Adobe Readers update was
using 100% of my cpu. got rid of it and no problems. I have almost as
many programs running as you do ( I know because my son complains) but
my computer zips along with 1gig of ram. Its not so much how many
progams, although it can be a problem, but which programs and what you
are letting them do.
caver1

Doug W.

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Jul 19, 2007, 3:49:00 PM7/19/07
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"caver1" <phi...@what.com> wrote in message
news:469f925f$0$30641$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
-
Hi: Adobe Ver 8 is a bad actor. If I use the damned thing, it
will try and download the update and use up my bandwidth as I am
on dial-up. I DON'T want the update unless it is on my
initiative. I have discontinued the sneaky download three times
already. I can't seem to be able to head it off and have tried
mightily.
-
Doug W.
-

John John

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Jul 19, 2007, 4:00:04 PM7/19/07
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Doug W. wrote:

It's easy to control if you use a firewall that can keep outbound
connections in check. The XP firewall is completely oblivious to
outbound connections.

John

Bob I

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Jul 19, 2007, 4:03:09 PM7/19/07
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Doug W. wrote:

Any reason you don't change the update check preferences?

caver1

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Jul 19, 2007, 4:14:09 PM7/19/07
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Just get rid of Adobe Reader.
caver1

Doug W.

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Jul 19, 2007, 5:36:44 PM7/19/07
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"FGGH" <FG...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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"FGGH": I wouldn't even venture an opinion unless I sitting in
front of your computer. Only you and/or more experienced
operators should tackle that.

There are lots of programs that try to load all or part of their
programs on start-up. A good many are NOT needed and they take
up memory. Some Anti-Virus pgms are way over-zealous in their
default set-ups and can be re-tuned for faster ops. Same goes
for AV pgms with mail scanning. Same for the anti-spyware
pgms...some of them won't let you do anything because they have
to bloody well scan everything before they turn it over to you.
A neighbor used McAfee System protection which ran and ran and
ran which just about drove her nuts.

If you have a local and dependable service shop or even your
friendly Dell support, phone them and get some free advice.

Cheers...

Doug W.
-
p.s. you have some software that I wouldn't mind having but also
some that I would deep six.
-


Google AGP. Lots of information there...you may need a service
techie to solve that one.

Doug W.

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Jul 19, 2007, 8:05:05 PM7/19/07
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"Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I got rid of the BHO with Spybot - Search and destroy. I knew
there had to be a quick and painless solution.
-
Doug W.
-


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