Windows XP Home Install

Tom

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Mar 23, 2010, 7:33:01 PM3/23/10

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I want to know if "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2" CD is
just upgrade to an existing XP home install or XP full install with SP2?
The CD box has even the product key.

The reason I'm trying to figure out is I just purchased a new motherboard
and my old XP CD gives a blue screen with Stop error when I try to install
it.
I called the motherboard support and was told that its compatible only with
XP w/SP2 at least. My old XP CD doesn't have SP2.

LD55ZRA

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Mar 23, 2010, 7:53:33 PM3/23/10

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Upgrade CD is indeed a full product but you will need a qualifying
product to install it.

The reason you are getting Blue Screen (we call this BSOD - to say Blue
Screen of Death) is because you haven't installed your motherboard
correctly or your drivers aren't compatible with Windows XP. This is
what I call hardware malfunction but John Johnson (that pedo from New
Zealand will call this something else).

hth

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Mar 23, 2010, 7:44:21 PM3/23/10

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The Upgrade CD cannot do what you want it to do.

Your old CD is tied to your old PC/motherboard.

Get a refund for both the CD and the motherboard then purchase a new
computer.

sgopus

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Mar 23, 2010, 8:09:01 PM3/23/10

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The license for an upgrade requires a qualifying media , not an installed
product, if you have an old install cd of windows 98, or w2000, your old Xp
svcpk 1, it might qualify, not sure.

choro

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Mar 23, 2010, 10:52:45 PM3/23/10

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Good advice, sgopus. Let him try to install his upgrade CD which will
probably ask him to insert an older windows installation CD in the drive. He
can then -- when asked for -- temporarily insert his old Windows CD (such as
Win 98, Win 2000 or indeed his old WinXP CD) and this will in all
probability enable the installation.

IF and this is a big IF he has a Windows 98 installation CD or some such
qualifying older version of Windows, he is in luck. Failing that he can try
his luck with his old WinXP installation disk temporarily inserted into the
drive.

Of course he has got to start off the WinXP/SP2 Upgrade installation first
and temporarily insert his old Windows Installation CD when asked for.

Failing that he would have to install an older version of Windows first and
THEN install his WinXP Upgrade on top of that.

MS have already got enough money out of the poor chap. I don't see why he
has to buy yet another WinXP Installation disk.

Fair is fair!!! If my Motherboard fails after 12 months, I see no reason why
I'd have to buy another operating system CD. Changing the motherboard is NOT
tantamount to installing the OS on a second computer whether the computer
came with a full retail version of WinXP or the so-called OEM version.

My blood boils when a chap has already paid for his OS and is expected to
dish out yet more money to buy another OS installation CD with a new
licence. The old licence should be valid for a new motherboard too.

Bear, this is for YOU....
BOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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choro

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Mar 23, 2010, 10:57:54 PM3/23/10

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PS= I wonder, are MVPs on commission? ;-)

A new motherboard shouldn't disqualify one from re-using his legally bought
and owned Windows installation disk. Yes, I DO draw the line where piracy is
involved but this is NOT piracy and the chap has already paid for the
service TWICE! It is madness to expect him to dish out yet more money.

Did you hear that Bear?!
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choro

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Mar 23, 2010, 10:58:45 PM3/23/10

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OR does GREED know no bounds?!

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LD55ZRA

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Mar 23, 2010, 11:31:40 PM3/23/10

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>> Bear, this is for YOU....
>> BOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>
> PS= I wonder, are MVPs on commission? ;-)
>

Oh no. Pig-Bear is a 79 year old demented loner who is loved by no one but
he likes to lick Steve Ballmer's ass. He is just trying to get his quota of
messages so that his membership of the Pig Society is renewed automatically.
There are some pigs thrown out of this society for not posting sufficient
messages here; so Pig-Bear wants to avoid this.

hth

Andy

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Mar 24, 2010, 2:22:58 AM3/24/10

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thats bunk you can reinstall windows xp home upgrade on a new mother bord as
long as you have the mother bord drivers installed and the old cd or a copy
of windows 98 cd kicking around i have done this on all my systems .
as the lic states you can have a copy on one computer at a time unless its
the volume lic .
so by reformatting the drive its removeing it from the old pc and installing
it on the new one.

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Mark Adams

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Mar 24, 2010, 10:14:02 AM3/24/10

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"choro" wrote:

Replacing a motherboard does not disqualify one from reusing his Windows
install disk if it's a retail disk. Do your research, Microsoft even provides
instructions. See the following KB article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824125

If the OP bought bad hardware, or uses a branded install disk (Dell, HP,
Sony etc.) instead of a retail disk, or doesn't install the proper SATA
drivers for the mainboard during the install; well that's not Microsoft's
fault. It's the OP's

Did you hear that choro?

> Did you hear that Bear?!
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>

> .
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Mar 24, 2010, 10:35:07 AM3/24/10

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Those in the Peanut Gallery should feel free to reply to the OP's post.

Andy wrote:
> thats bunk you can reinstall windows xp home upgrade on a new mother bord
> as
> long as you have the mother bord drivers installed and the old cd or a
> copy
> of windows 98 cd kicking around i have done this on all my systems .
> as the lic states you can have a copy on one computer at a time unless its
> the volume lic .
> so by reformatting the drive its removeing it from the old pc and
> installing
> it on the new one.
>
>

Alias

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Mar 24, 2010, 10:47:46 AM3/24/10

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PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> The Upgrade CD cannot do what you want it to do.

Yes, it can if one has a copy of 98, 98SE or Me handy.

> Your old CD is tied to your old PC/motherboard.

False. Show me where it mentions the word "motherboard" in the XP EULA
and I'll buy you a Porsche.

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choro

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Mar 24, 2010, 11:28:58 AM3/24/10

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I am sure any court will throw the case out if MS tried to sue an individual
who used his Windows OS CD to reinstall the OS on a computer where he has
had to replace the motherboard or indeed any other part of the computer that
has broken down.

And no, I don't approve of software piracy but neither do I approve of
software companies acting like pirates.

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Teneo

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Mar 24, 2010, 12:43:42 PM3/24/10

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Back to the OP problem he was told by manufaturer that needs XP with min SP2
to install.

With your old disk you can ' slipstream ' SP2 or better still goto SP3.

Product I use for slipstreaming is ' nlite ', http://www.nliteos.com/

THis should helps answer all the legal quibbles... :-)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824125

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Anna

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Mar 24, 2010, 2:35:18 PM3/24/10

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Tom:
If you're still around & haven't as yet resolved the issue...

1. It would be useful if you would indicate the make & model of your new
motherboard.

2. Can we assume your system is *not* an OEM system, e.g., Dell, HP,
Gateway, etc., and that your "old XP CD" is either a non-branded OEM type or
a full retail Home edition?

3. Did you replace the old motherboard because it was defective? Or if it's
not defective and still available, is there any chance you could reinstall
it and have a bootable system? Or were there other problems involved with
your "old" system?
Anna

Mark Adams

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Mar 24, 2010, 2:42:02 PM3/24/10

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"choro" wrote:

> Alias wrote:
> > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> >> The Upgrade CD cannot do what you want it to do.
> >
> > Yes, it can if one has a copy of 98, 98SE or Me handy.
> >
> >> Your old CD is tied to your old PC/motherboard.
> >
> > False. Show me where it mentions the word "motherboard" in the XP EULA
> > and I'll buy you a Porsche.
>
> I am sure any court will throw the case out if MS tried to sue an individual
> who used his Windows OS CD to reinstall the OS on a computer where he has
> had to replace the motherboard or indeed any other part of the computer that
> has broken down.
>

What's to sue? The OP is asking about an UPGRADE CD. These are retail, not
OEM and the last I heard is that retail upgrade and retail full versions can
be installed on ANY computer or mainboard; so long as they are installed on
only ONE machine.

The OP should do as "Teneo" suggested and slipstream SP2 into his original
disk. Done it myself with my own upgrade disk and my original product key
works just fine--- no piracy, no violation of the EULA, period.

> And no, I don't approve of software piracy but neither do I approve of
> software companies acting like pirates.
>
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sgopus

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Mar 25, 2010, 12:32:01 AM3/25/10

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I have my floppty disks with windows for workgroups, pre 98, W98, WME, W2000,
XP, and a beta of W7, so it's no small idea that someone would have older
disks of a qualifying operating system, I do, so why not others? I admit my
coworkers say I'm different, it's a hard job, but someone has to do it LOL.

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Andy

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Mar 25, 2010, 2:51:26 AM3/25/10

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the point is you're giving out bogus advice and its wrong .
you in with the mother board makers now are ya trying to get a kick back for
someone getting a new system for no reason?

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