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Sonnich Jensen

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Apr 13, 2012, 3:26:57 PM4/13/12
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Hi

I got a HP/Compaq nc6220 second hand, with the old HD deleted - almost
- it boots but fails. Anyway I wanted to install XP on it, and took my
previous XP CD,from which it loads (but does not offer to format the
HD). At some point it crashes.

The nc6220 has a sata HD, I think that is the problem.

I also tried some old Win95 and 98 disks - similar result.

Any ideas what I can do?

When booting from a dos disk, there is no HD to be seen.... sata?

Sonnich

Don Phillipson

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Apr 13, 2012, 4:48:15 PM4/13/12
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"Sonnich Jensen" <sonnic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Look first at what BIOS reports: if BIOS finds no HD, that component
is defective. Booting via DOS makes FAT-formatted HDs visible
but cannot see NTFS-formatted drives. (I don't see why DOS should
fail to see a SATA HD unless partitioned too large.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


SC Tom

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Apr 13, 2012, 4:52:56 PM4/13/12
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"Sonnich Jensen" <sonnic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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According to these specs http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12130_na/12130_na.PDF it's an ATA-7 hard
drive (AKA Ultra-ATA/133).

I would boot from your installation disc and do a new/clean install, formatting the hard drive during the process. Is it
possible that the drive is faulty?
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SC Tom

BillW50

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Apr 13, 2012, 5:45:14 PM4/13/12
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"Don Phillipson" <e9...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> ... (I don't see why DOS should fail to see a SATA HD unless
> partitioned too large.)

XP can't even see a SATA drive without the right SATA driver (Vista/7/8
can). Although some BIOS has a legacy mode which then should work
without the SATA driver. This machine doesn't and I need a SATA driver
before XP install can see it. You can add the SATA driver during booting
the XP install when you are allowed to press F6.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 1.5GB - Windows 8 CP


Sonnich Jensen

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Apr 14, 2012, 3:22:47 AM4/14/12
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On Apr 13, 11:48 pm, "Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
> "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnichjen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
The bios is vry simple but there is a HD test, last 30 mins, and the
HD is ok

There is not much to set up in the bios...

Sonnich

Sonnich Jensen

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Apr 14, 2012, 3:46:48 AM4/14/12
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On Apr 14, 12:45 am, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
> "Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> news:jma3hb$db8$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
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> > ... (I don't see why DOS should fail to see a SATA HD unless
> > partitioned too large.)
>
> XP can't even see a SATA drive without the right SATA driver (Vista/7/8
> can). Although some BIOS has a legacy mode which then should work
> without the SATA driver. This machine doesn't and I need a SATA driver
> before XP install can see it. You can add the SATA driver during booting
> the XP install when you are allowed to press F6.

I tried, but then it asks for a support disk in A:
I will have to find out whether there is additional drivers for this
on

Paul

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Apr 14, 2012, 3:47:33 AM4/14/12
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Have you tried testing with a Linux LiveCD ? You're not limited
to Windows for testing.

Paul

Sonnich Jensen

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Apr 14, 2012, 3:21:55 AM4/14/12
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On Apr 13, 11:52 pm, "SC Tom" <s...@tom.net> wrote:
> "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnichjen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:c7cd9360-9aa9-4502...@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
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> > Hi
>
> > I got a HP/Compaq nc6220 second hand, with the old HD deleted - almost
> > - it boots but fails. Anyway I wanted to install XP on it, and took my
> > previous XP CD,from which it loads (but does not offer to format the
> > HD). At some point it crashes.
>
> > The nc6220 has a sata HD, I think that is the problem.
>
> > I also tried some old Win95 and 98 disks - similar result.
>
> > Any ideas what I can do?
>
> > When booting from a dos disk, there is no HD to be seen.... sata?
>
> > Sonnich
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> According to these specs  http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12130_na/12130_na.PDF  it's an ATA-7 hard
> drive (AKA Ultra-ATA/133).

hmmm... then why..?

>
> I would boot from your installation disc and do a new/clean install, formatting the hard drive during the process. Is it
> possible that the drive is faulty?

Could be. I always make a clean install, but this one is more
troublesome that others.
It simply starts copying files (to memory?) and at some point simply
restarts)

Sonnich

BillW50

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Apr 14, 2012, 7:09:29 AM4/14/12
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"Sonnich Jensen" <sonnic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes, it is looking for the driver on a floppy drive.

Sonnich Jensen

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Apr 14, 2012, 3:16:35 PM4/14/12
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Somehow I am - I dont have a linux cd :(

BillW50

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Apr 14, 2012, 3:39:35 PM4/14/12
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In news:jmba2l$onl$1...@dont-email.me,
Have you told others yet that Linux Live can toast the Windows install
on the hard drive if they try it?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3


Hot-Text

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:00:59 PM4/14/12
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"Sonnich Jensen"


HP Compaq nc6220/6230 Notebook PCs
< http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12130_div/12130_div.HTML >
Drive is a ATA.........

Support Center for HP Compaq nc6220 Notebook PC
< http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=447371&lang=en&cc=us >

» Microsoft Windows XP
» Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
» Microsoft Windows XP Media Center
» Microsoft Windows XP Professional
» Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

Microsoft Windows XP CD sp2
<
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=447348&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=447371&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=228#1660 >

Hot-Text

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:09:44 PM4/14/12
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"Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in message news:jmba2l$onl$1...@dont-email.me...
Paul he say:
bios Live setup test..

Is not a Linux or a Windows for test..



BillW50

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:17:38 PM4/14/12
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In news:4f89d993$1...@news.x-privat.org,
Hot-Text wrote:
> "Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:jmba2l$onl$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Sonnich Jensen wrote:
>>> On Apr 13, 11:48 pm, "Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>> "Sonnich Jensen" <sonnichjen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:c7cd9360-9aa9-4502...@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I got a HP/Compaq nc6220 second hand, with the old HD deleted -
>>>>> almost - it boots but fails. Anyway I wanted to install XP on it,
>>>>> and took my previous XP CD,from which it loads (but does not
>>>>> offer to format the HD). At some point it crashes.
>>>>> The nc6220 has a sata HD, I think that is the problem.
>>>>> I also tried some old Win95 and 98 disks - similar result.
>>>>> Any ideas what I can do?
>>>>> When booting from a dos disk, there is no HD to be seen.... sata?
>>>>
>>>> Look first at what BIOS reports: if BIOS finds no HD, that
>>>> component is defective. Booting via DOS makes FAT-formatted HD
>>>> visible but cannot see NTFS-formatted drives. (I don't see why DOS
>>>> should fail to see a SATA HD unless partitioned too large.)
>>>
>>> The bios is vry simple but there is a HD test, last 30 mins, and the
>>> HD is ok
>>>
>>> There is not much to set up in the bios...
>>>
>>> Sonnich
>>
>> Have you tried testing with a Linux LiveCD ? You're not limited
>> to Windows for testing.
>
> Paul he say:
> bios Live setup test..
>
> Is not a Linux or a Windows for test..

Sure he did, at least later. Paul also claims that if the BIOS can't see
it then the drive is defective too. That isn't true either. As I have
drives that my BIOS can't see and there are nothing wrong with them. It
is just the BIOS isn't smart enough to know any better.

Hot-Text

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:19:47 PM4/14/12
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"Sonnich Jensen" <sonnic...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5e0daada-ebb4-4e28...@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
It ok we get you right XP CD for it..
with the right drives for that HP Compaq nc6220..

Now that

Hot-Text

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:37:42 PM4/14/12
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"BillW50" <Bil...@aol.kom> wrote in message news:jmcm14$4mo$1...@dont-email.me...
Bill some time it helps to turn off Dam Auto,
and put the drive info in yourself..

For the Drive is Removable,
and he have to do is put the info on Paper,
put it back Hdd, start up in Bios.
and site the HDD Drives a USE,
and put the info in...

So the BIOS can see the HDD..
and give the info to the OS..

Paul

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Apr 14, 2012, 5:45:25 PM4/14/12
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If you're on dialup, then don't bother with this approach.

If you have broadband Internet (cable TV modem or ADSL modem), then
download a CD from here.

(Take "10.04LTS" version, for the easy to understand user interface.
The 32 bit version will run on more hardware, if you choose it.
Many of these downloads, will be in the 700MB size region.)

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download

There are 500 different Linux distributions, and that is just one
of them. When 10.04LTS is no longer supported, I will no longer
be promoting that site.

I use things like that, mainly for testing, or for special (hacking)
projects. My regular desktop is not Linux.

Your laptop, is potentially a "business laptop" and has a TPM chip.
A previous owner may have installed some kind of security software,
and TPM can be used to enforce the need for a password, or for
preventing anything but the original OS from loading.

There are many more "failure" scenarios for used business laptops, than for
other laptops. For example, the BIOS of the laptop, could
do MBR substitution during the boot process, to support more
than four primary partitions. Only an "IT guy" can keep track
of stuff like this (fixing business laptops every day).

Paul

Ben Myers

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Apr 14, 2012, 7:18:16 PM4/14/12
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"Sonnich Jensen" <sonnic...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:839627a8-908c-4b31...@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
> Hi
> I got a HP/Compaq nc6220 second hand, with the old HD deleted - almost
> - it boots but fails. Anyway I wanted to install XP on it, and took my
> previous XP CD,from which it loads (but does not offer to format the
> HD). At some point it crashes.

Try cleaning the CD.

> The nc6220 has a sata HD, I think that is the problem.
> I also tried some old Win95 and 98 disks - similar result.
> Any ideas what I can do?
> When booting from a dos disk, there is no HD to be seen.... sata?

Try typing "fdisk" and select option 4. If the entry under "System" is something other
than "FAT" or "FAT32", you will have to use an NT style system like Windows XP or
repartition the disk by deleting the existing partition and creating a new one using option
1. If your boot disk doesn't have fdisk, see

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/263044

Ben

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