Where can I get Google Earth for Win XP Pro?

[WinXPUser]

Where can I get Google Earth for Win XP Pro?
That is all I have.
And no, I am not upgrading the OS!

[gfre...@aol.com]

I am running it on several XP machines just fine

Google Earth
7.1.8.3036 (32-bit)
Build Date
1/17/2017
Build Time
12:38:00 am
Renderer
DirectX

[Paul]

Collections like this are not necessarily complete.

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-earth/

There is a timeline here of versions, for comparison.
It might not be complete either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_earth

And Google may have stopped work on separate
applications. It's really hard to tell. As there
is a plugin for Chrome (and of course Chrome is
not supported on WinXP any more, and might only
be available in a 64-bit version anyway).

There are a couple possibilities for compatibility:

1) The Google site still lists WinXP as supported.
Like WinXP, Vista, Win7. No mention of Win8/Win10.
This suggests the OS support listed on the page
is just bullshit.

2) Does it use .NET on Windows ? If so, it might use
a version of .NET not available on WinXP.

3) The graphics are also a sticking point. Google Earth
uses DirectX or OpenGL for rendering. They couldn't
just be happy drawing a picture into a bitmap buffer
directly as a perfectly adequate display mechanism.
Hitching your wagon to hardware acceleration, carries
risks. For users, for which the application complains
there is no DirectX (a bullshit claim), they should attempt
to use the preferences and switch to OpenGL. Even OpenGL
has versions, and if Google pushes their code to using
the newest OpenGL features (why?), then it could be
busted because of that.

4) Google feels a need to install GoogleUpdater, hide it in
a svchost or whatever. Could you be denied service because
that bit of trickery didn't work ? Dunno.

You're just going to have to test versions, and take your
best guess as to the reason they don't work.

I was not able to find any knowledgeable analysis of why
it might fail. But the ingredients are there for trouble.
They can pretend it's compatible in the sense that they
delivered a PE32 EXE to your desk, but that doesn't mean
the subsystems are actually compatible.

Paul

[Kerr Mudd-John]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 02:42:08 +0100, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:

> WinXPUser wrote:
>> Where can I get Google Earth for Win XP Pro?
>> That is all I have.
>> And no, I am not upgrading the OS!
>
> Collections like this are not necessarily complete.
>
> http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-earth/
>
> There is a timeline here of versions, for comparison.
> It might not be complete either.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_earth
>
> And Google may have stopped work on separate
> applications. It's really hard to tell. As there
> is a plugin for Chrome (and of course Chrome is
> not supported on WinXP any more, and might only
> be available in a 64-bit version anyway).
>

Iron still functions under 3 bit XP

> There are a couple possibilities for compatibility:
>
> 1) The Google site still lists WinXP as supported.
> Like WinXP, Vista, Win7. No mention of Win8/Win10.
> This suggests the OS support listed on the page
> is just bullshit.
>
> 2) Does it use .NET on Windows ? If so, it might use
> a version of .NET not available on WinXP.
>

I don't think so ; I have XP and have refused all .net installs

> 3) The graphics are also a sticking point. Google Earth
> uses DirectX or OpenGL for rendering. They couldn't
> just be happy drawing a picture into a bitmap buffer
> directly as a perfectly adequate display mechanism.
> Hitching your wagon to hardware acceleration, carries
> risks. For users, for which the application complains
> there is no DirectX (a bullshit claim), they should attempt
> to use the preferences and switch to OpenGL. Even OpenGL
> has versions, and if Google pushes their code to using
> the newest OpenGL features (why?), then it could be
> busted because of that.
>
> 4) Google feels a need to install GoogleUpdater, hide it in
> a svchost or whatever. Could you be denied service because
> that bit of trickery didn't work ? Dunno.
>
> You're just going to have to test versions, and take your
> best guess as to the reason they don't work.
>
> I was not able to find any knowledgeable analysis of why
> it might fail. But the ingredients are there for trouble.
> They can pretend it's compatible in the sense that they
> delivered a PE32 EXE to your desk, but that doesn't mean
> the subsystems are actually compatible.
>
> Paul
>

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

[JJ]

Does it fail to install on your XP system?

[Ian Jackson]

In message <3idy8nk8yfvl$.1e5sq0afnn45s$.d...@40tude.net>, JJ
<jj4p...@vfemail.net> writes

IIRC, the last version of GE that works on XP is 6.1.0.5001 (or maybe
6.2). Neither is available any more from OldApps.com. Later versions
fail to install (just tried the latest, and it certainly doesn't).
--
Ian

[Ian Jackson]

In message <TaewjsO7...@brattleho.plus.com>, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> writes

Correction:
V6.2.2.6613 is the last version that works with XP.
It's available from
<http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-earth/>
<http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-earth-6-2-2-6613>
I've just installed it, and it works fine (new XP Home installation on a
different).

I think that somewhere there is an option to allow automatic updates
(haven't found it yet) - and if there is, disable it.

I haven't tried any later versions on the new install computer, but I'm
pretty sure they don't work (at least they didn't when I installed GE on
THIS PC (a couple of years ago).

--
Ian

[Shadow]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:45:44 +0100, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <TaewjsO7...@brattleho.plus.com>, Ian Jackson
><ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> writes
>>In message <3idy8nk8yfvl$.1e5sq0afnn45s$.d...@40tude.net>, JJ
>><jj4p...@vfemail.net> writes
>>>On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:07:34 -0700, WinXPUser wrote:
>>>> Where can I get Google Earth for Win XP Pro?
>>>> That is all I have.
>>>> And no, I am not upgrading the OS!
>>>
>>>Does it fail to install on your XP system?
>>
>>IIRC, the last version of GE that works on XP is 6.1.0.5001 (or maybe
>>6.2). Neither is available any more from OldApps.com. Later versions
>>fail to install (just tried the latest, and it certainly doesn't).
>
>Correction:
>V6.2.2.6613 is the last version that works with XP.
>It's available from
><http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-earth/>
><http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-earth-6-2-2-6613>
>I've just installed it, and it works fine (new XP Home installation on a
>different).

v 7.1.5.1557 works fine.

https://support.google.com/earth/answer/168344?hl=en

It's a ~30MB download. The smaller installer is a dataminer.

>
>I think that somewhere there is an option to allow automatic updates
>(haven't found it yet) - and if there is, disable it.

Just delete the updater executable. Can't remember what it's
called, but if you monitor the install it should be easy to spot
something added to startup or services.
[]'s

>
>I haven't tried any later versions on the new install computer, but I'm
>pretty sure they don't work (at least they didn't when I installed GE on
>THIS PC (a couple of years ago).
--

Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[JJ]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 21:56:37 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>
> v 7.1.5.1557 works fine.
>
> https://support.google.com/earth/answer/168344?hl=en
>
> It's a ~30MB download. The smaller installer is a dataminer.

The v7.1.8.3036 works fine too on clean XP SP3 system.

[Ian Jackson]

In message <1hxxlkfvoxpdp.f7dgtxq86hqj$.d...@40tude.net>, JJ
<jj4p...@vfemail.net> writes

Noted. Thanks for the info.

It's at least a couple of years ago since I installed GE on any XP
computer, and V7-anything simply refused to install. I'll give it
another chance!
--
Ian

[Ian Jackson]

In message <gVnMwOAe...@brattleho.plus.com>, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> writes

Well, I've tried the latest version (7.1.8.3036). It installs, but when
I try to run it, I get a message that the graphics card does not support
DirectX mode, and to try OpenGL. I can get GE to open, but there is no
Planet Earth - just the stars and the country boundaries. In 'Options',
you can select OpenGL - but again the graphic card doesn't support it.

Anyway ........
Thinking back, THIS is the problem I found several years ago - which
seemed to start with version 7. There are quite a lot of references to
it on the internet. Several fixes are recommended, but from what I can
see from some of the responses, none really work. For those who find it
a problem, I guess the obvious fix is to use the last old version that
doesn't give this problem. Life's too short to try all the version 7s,
so unless anyone has a positive fix, I'll stick with the last version 6
(6.2.2.6613).
--
Ian

[JJ]

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:37:50 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>
> Well, I've tried the latest version (7.1.8.3036). It installs, but when
> I try to run it, I get a message that the graphics card does not support
> DirectX mode, and to try OpenGL. I can get GE to open, but there is no
> Planet Earth - just the stars and the country boundaries. In 'Options',
> you can select OpenGL - but again the graphic card doesn't support it.
>
> Anyway ........
> Thinking back, THIS is the problem I found several years ago - which
> seemed to start with version 7. There are quite a lot of references to
> it on the internet. Several fixes are recommended, but from what I can
> see from some of the responses, none really work. For those who find it
> a problem, I guess the obvious fix is to use the last old version that
> doesn't give this problem. Life's too short to try all the version 7s,
> so unless anyone has a positive fix, I'll stick with the last version 6
> (6.2.2.6613).

Looks like Google Earth has upped the graphics card requirements. You'll
have to stick with the older version in that case.

There's actually a tool that can fool 3D applications into thinking that the
graphic card has the required function (or the opposite), but even though it
may work, there's a high chance that it'll make the 3D display looks crappy.
e.g. missing/errorneous shadow, textures, layers, etc.