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Indicium

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:07:01 PM1/23/10
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Hi,

How can I remove Windows Live ID from the computer, which is probably
encrypted somewhere in the registry
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IdentityCRL\UserExtendedProperties\%Windows Live ID% ?]?

Is there a program to delete Windows LiveID from the computer (running
Windows XP).

I am looking forward to any advice on this matter.

Thanking you in advance.


Kind regards.


Note: I do not mean removing the Windows Live ID account, which I already
did by logging in and deleting the Windows Live Account.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jan 23, 2010, 9:33:41 PM1/23/10
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CrystalBall© sez...

Use TweakUI/Logon/Unread Mail and Repair/Unread Mail Count
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

Disable Unread Mail on the Welcome Screen (Line 100)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

To remove an account or to change the count manually:

Start>Run>Regedit>navigate to this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\UnreadMail\[Your
E-Mail Address]. In the right pane modify: Message Count, Change it to 0.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\UnreadMail. In
the right pane modify: MessageExpiryDays Change it to 0.

Overview of Mail Notification Display on WinXP Welcome Screen
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304148

Indicium

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Jan 23, 2010, 10:14:19 PM1/23/10
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Hi Stephen,

I understand what you mean. I removed Windows Live Mail (WLM), but all the
names of the MSN Hotmail accounts (Windows Live ID's) are "remembered" by the
OS (WinXP). This is including old (already removed) accounts and accounts of
other people, who used my computer to log-in to MSN Hotmail.

I noticed that as I surfed to the page "https://www.clingendael.nl/". You
can see (all) the Windows LiveID's.

I can not find a way to remove them from the PC. I already run
RevoUninstaller to remove additional unnecessary files, folders and registry
keys that were left over after uninstalling WLM.



I am looking forward to any advice on this matter.

Thanking you in advance.


Kind regards.

"StephenB" wrote:

> What are you actually trying to do and why?
> If you linked your LiveID with your Windows login, via Control Panel/Users -
> ..Net Passport, removing it from there should take care of it. LiveID is
> "remembered" by applications that use this such as Windows Live Messenger, the
> rest of the Windows Live Essentials suite, and the LiveID Sign-in Assistant in
> Internet Explorer.
> -steve
>
> Indicium <Indi...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How can I remove Windows Live ID from the computer, which is probably encrypted somewhere in > the registry [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IdentityCRL\UserExtendedProperties\% > Windows Live ID% ?]?


>
> Is there a program to delete Windows LiveID from the computer (running Windows XP).
>
> I am looking forward to any advice on this matter.
>
> Thanking you in advance.
>
>
> Kind regards.
>
>
> Note: I do not mean removing the Windows Live ID account, which I already did by logging in and > deleting the Windows Live Account.
>

> --
> Stephen Boots
> MVP Windows Live
> Windows Live OneCare/Live Mesh/MSE Forums Moderator
> sbo...@mvps.org

Indicium

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Jan 23, 2010, 10:25:01 PM1/23/10
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Hi,

The problem is not (!) with the WinXP Welcome Screen. It seems strange to
that the OS remembers all the logged-on accounts (e.g. of family, friends,
etc.) of Windows Live Hotmail. You can check what I mean by visiting (e.g.)
"https://www.clingendael.nl/".

Thanking you in advance.


Kind regards.

> .
>

The Real Truth MVP

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Jan 23, 2010, 10:55:27 PM1/23/10
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Use CCleaner http://www.ccleaner.com/

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*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste
your time.
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jan 24, 2010, 1:10:05 AM1/24/10
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IE Tools | Internet Options | Privacy | Sites: type in

live.com

and click Block button.

Now delete all live.com cookies & reboot.

VanguardLH

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Jan 24, 2010, 1:32:37 AM1/24/10
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Indicium wrote:

> How can I remove Windows Live ID from the computer, which is probably
> encrypted somewhere in the registry
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IdentityCRL\UserExtendedProperties\%Windows Live ID% ?]?
>
> Is there a program to delete Windows LiveID from the computer (running
> Windows XP).


Control Panel -> User Accounts applet
Pick your account
"Manage my network passwords"

João Fernandes

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Jan 24, 2010, 3:34:46 AM1/24/10
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You mean bing.com.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:#0FDxvLn...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

John John - MVP

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:45:22 AM1/24/10
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281660/EN-US/
Behavior of stored user names and passwords

John

Indicium

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:53:01 AM1/24/10
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Hi,

@ PA Bear [MS MVP]: It is not (!) a cookie-problem. The OS automatically
stores "Windows Live ID" somewhere. This is (probably) in the registry, where
it might be encrypted for security reasons. You can check whether you have
the same by visiting (e.g.) "https://www.clingendael.nl/".

@ VanguardLH: the problem can not (') be solved by visiting the "Control
Panel -> User Account -> Manage my network passwords". Windows Live ID is
stored without having a network.

@ The Real Truth MVP: I already used CCleaner.

I find it very strange, because every log on (e.g. family, friends, etc.) is
stored on the PC. This has no meaning to me. Moreover, it discourages me to
let other people use my computer. Let alone, using a computer in a public
environment where everybody can see the "Windows Live ID". This can (e.g.) be
used by crminals in order to send spam.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Jan 24, 2010, 3:14:11 PM1/24/10
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I didn't say it was a cookie problem but if you BLOCK live.com cookies &
delete them, no Live ID will be remembered, period.

VanguardLH

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Jan 24, 2010, 6:34:55 PM1/24/10
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Indicium wrote:

> @ VanguardLH: the problem can not (') be solved by visiting the "Control
> Panel -> User Account -> Manage my network passwords". Windows Live ID is
> stored without having a network.

You don't mention if you even looked. This is where Passport got stored;
see http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/passport1.php. Well, Microsoft
moved to Live for their credentials so I figured if Passport got its
credentials saved here that Live would also get saved here. This credential
caching is described at:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281660
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306541
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306992

It is also possible that you installed an add-in to the web browser that is
auto-filling the input controls for the login objects in a web page. For
example, did you install (and leave installed) the Windows Live Sign-In
Assistant add-on? Every time you install anything "Live", a bunch of
fluffware also gets installed. At one time, you could deselect the
fluffware but now Microsoft includes it as a minimum bundleware package with
any Live product. Did you ever test when loading IE in its no add-ons mode
(i.e., using the -extoff command-line switch)?

Cookies only allow a small amount of storage on your host: typically 300
cookies total, 20 cookies per domain, 4096 bytes per cookie. These are the
recommended minimums [but are *not* required] by RFC 2109. IE goes its own
way with a maximum cookie count of 20 (but got upped to 50) with a total of
4096 bytes maximum consumed by all cookies (upped to 10KB in IE8); see (see
http://blogs.msdn.com/ieinternals/archive/2009/08/20/WinINET-IE-Cookie-Internals-FAQ.aspx.
You'll have to do your own research regarding maximums in other web
browsers. Some web servers also have their own maximums. Apache will fail
with "Size of a request header field exceeds server limit" if the total of
all cookies retrieved by the Cookie: request header exceeds 8190 bytes.

Another source of cookies are with Flash which has its own .sol files. You
can manage how big they can become or if any are saved on your host at all.

Cookies are not the only means of saving site data (euphemistically called
"user data" for a site) on your host. User persistent data is a separate
cache and allows far more storage of site data on your host. Check if you
have the following options enabled:

Internet Options

- Advanced tab
Security section
Enable DOM Storage

- Security tab
<pick a security zone, like Internet>
Custom Level
Miscellaneous section
Userdata persistence

See:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc197062(VS.85).aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOM_storage
https://developer.mozilla.org/En/DOM:Storage#Description

DOM storage is new as of IE8 (http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/). As I
recall, the persistent data is stored under the %userprofile%\UserData
folder for IE. Other web browsers have their own DOM storage location
(e.g., Firefox uses an SQLlite file). I've had these options disabled for
so long and probably did cleanup at the time that there is nothing to find
on my host under this folder. There may be freeware that not only purges
the classic .txt cookies (and possibly the Flash .sol cookies) but also the
UserData records.

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