Change Icons

[j]

Changing icons works fine, except for one icon. Whenever
I chose the folder with the hammer, etc (tools) on it, it
changes to the icon just above it. I am using icons in
the folder: %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll. No
matter what I do, this one icon will not take. Any
ideas? Thanks.

[Wesley Vogel]

j;
I just started looking here for this problem before I posted a question.
You beat me to it. My folder w/ tools shows up as the Control Panel icon;
disk, check mark and pencil. I tried to pick the CP icon, thinking they
might be switched, but I didn't fool anything, showed up as CP icon. Too
bad there is not an answer posted also.
Respectfully,
Wes

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[Wesley Vogel]

I can't change the attribute from Read Only on this file either, acts
like it changes, until the next time it is opened. Read Only again.
Doesn't matter whether if I change just this file or this file and .....

Respectfully,
Wes
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[David Candy]

It loading icon 21 (control panel) not 34 ( 34 is Show Desktop icon and is the one above tools folder).

The icons are correct in the file. Windows only reads an icon once from a file and caches it. If there is no cache when it starts it preloads all standard icons (all you see in shell32) and any icons on the desktop. When it preloads this particular icon it loads icon 21 in it's place.

In programming MS rarely refer to icons by their icon number (the icon number is the order the icons appear in the file with the first called 0, the second 1, etc), they prefer to use the resource number (in the registry you'll see this as a negative number, -35 is the icon's resource number. It just happens to be the same in this case, usually it's not.

So has XP is loading it's cache incorrectly there is not much that can be done.

I've extracted the icon from shell32 for you and attached it.

If you are accessing these groups incorrectly you won't see the icon. Use the correct way to access these grouips

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize

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[David Candy]

This is a post I just made to another thread. I'm disputing someone's assumptions about this issue.

Also there is a mis apprehension here. Folders are NOT created read only, XP doesn't tell you what the read only attributes are for folders therefore the person cannot know if it is set or not.

These 4 files manipulate read only and system (for folders they are interchangable - they both mean Parse the desktop.ini and system may pop up a warning if you try to delete).

One shows attributes for folders in a folder's Infotip/Statusbar and Tile Info (if there is enough room to show for tile info as there is only three lines and if the name is long and takes two lines, the description takes 1 so no room to shpow attributes)
One shows attributes for files in a file's Infotip/Statusbar and Tile Info (if there is enough room to show for tile info as there is only three lines)
You only see attributes if they are set, if a file has no attributes then you see nothing different.

The other two files go into Sendto (Type sendto in start - Run) they report if it is set or not and offer to change it.

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[David Candy]

Also the folder MUST be read only or System to show custom icons. When applied to folders read only/system means the folder has been customised in some way, such as a custom icon, folder background, text colour, or it requires a special program to view (such as the Fonts Folder viewer). Read only when applied to a folder tells windows to look for customisation for that folder.

Windows assigns read only automatically if you customise the folder. Apart from this there is no GUI way to see what the read only attributes are for a folder or to change them. The dialog checkbox is showing it's third state which is indeterminate.

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[Maureen Goldman]

>"Wesley Vogel" <WVog...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just started looking here for this problem before I posted a question.
>You beat me to it. My folder w/ tools shows up as the Control Panel icon;
>disk, check mark and pencil. I tried to pick the CP icon, thinking they
>might be switched, but I didn't fool anything, showed up as CP icon. Too
>bad there is not an answer posted also.

>"j" <jwit...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> Changing icons works fine, except for one icon. Whenever
>> I chose the folder with the hammer, etc (tools) on it, it
>> changes to the icon just above it. I am using icons in
>> the folder: %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll. No
>> matter what I do, this one icon will not take. Any
>> ideas? Thanks.

I'm confused. For which folder are you trying to change the icon, and
to which icon?

[j]

Thanks for the attached icon. I applied it and it works
fine, and I added it to my collection of icons for future
use.

[Maureen Goldman]

>"David Candy" <da...@mvps.org> wrote:
>Also the folder MUST be read only or System to show custom icons. When applied to folders read only/system means the folder has been customised in some way, such as a custom icon, folder background, text colour, or it requires a special program to view (such as the Fonts Folder viewer). Read only when applied to a folder tells windows to look for customisation for that folder.

David, I'm not one of the original posters. I have quite a few folders
with custom icons via programs and sources like NirExt and
Foldericons. The folders are a random lot (some installed by Windows,
others created by me), and I see no difference in their attributes
from ordinary yellow folders.

[Wesley Vogel]

Maureen;
A folder I created and have on my Desktop. It contains shortcuts to all
my Utilities; Sandra, Aida32, Disk Cleaner, EasyCleaner, Scumware stuff,
Etc. What icon? Change from standard manila folder look to the one that is
a manila file folder with tools, hammer, etc. I want the Tools look because
my Utilities are Tools. This help?
Respectfully,
Wes
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[Wesley Vogel]

David;
I am confused. I have a question about XP doesn't tell you what read
only attributes are for folders. Right click the
folder/Properties/Attributes:Read-only, Hidden, Archive. Check mark in
Read-only box. I would assume this means this is a read only file.Why is
this displayed, if XP does not tell you attributes?
Any further clarification would be appreciated. I am ready to learn at
all times.
Respectfully,
Wes
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[Wesley Vogel]

David;
Thank you very much. I saved 35.ico, and applied it to my Utilities
folder. I did not know this was going to be such a big deal.

Respectfully,
Wes
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[David Candy]

Read only means read only and XP allows you to change it and view it for FILES. However read only is meaningless applied to a folder. MS needed some special attributes for folders when Win 95 was released, so they looked at what was unused when applied to folders and found read only. So they reused the space that files use to say they are read only and was unused on folders.

The checkbox you refer to is a tri-state checkbox. Ir has three states, ticked, unticked, and indeterminate. If you use classic theme you'd notice that it is a light grey tick but XP themes it not as stark. It shows indeterminate. However as you can issue a command here to make the files in a folder read only which is why it shows at all, but it shows as indeterminate.

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[David Candy]

Read Only or System applied to a folder tells Windows (from 95/NT4 onwards) that it should parse the (normally) hidden file desktop.ini

Type in Start - Run
%systemroot%\fonts\desktop.ini

which will display the desktop.ini for the fonts folder

It contains a number that when looked up tells windows to load the font folder viewer program (that add Install New Font and allows fonts to be dragged in to the folder to be installed).

A folder with a custom icon will look like this.

[{5984FFE0-28D4-11CF-AE66-08002B2E1262}]
PersistMoniker=file://folder.htt

[ExtShellFolderViews]
{5984FFE0-28D4-11CF-AE66-08002B2E1262}={5984FFE0-28D4-11CF-AE66-08002B2E1262}

[.ShellClassInfo]
IconFile=%SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll
IconIndex=-35

InfoTip=An optional description for the folder that displays in a pop up tip and web view when selected
ConfirmFileOp=0

Although this shows a custom Common Tasks, a custom icon (the one we're discussing here), and also a custom infotip.
With the user dialog you can only change the icon or choose non-custom common task panes.

So if you are using the Customise This Folder on a folder it makes the folder read only.

You can prove this with the files I've posted here or by typing
attrib <path to folder>
EG Attrib "C:\Documents and Settings\my folder"

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[Wesley Vogel]

David;
Thank you again for your replies. I reread a couple of them and I
believe I get it. I also read Einstein's Relativity, The Special and
General Theory; I sort of got that also. ;-)))

Respectfully,
Wes
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[David Candy]

Don't worry, I only sort of get Unified Field Theory.
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