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bm

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:47:25 AM11/24/09
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When I am viewing I Player I often get an interruption and a message
"Virtual Memory Minimum too low"
Can I change this? and if so how?
Blair


David B.

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:58:44 AM11/24/09
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What is it set to? See step 2 here. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308417

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bm

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:30:30 AM11/24/09
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Thanks for your reply
I have 512 MB RAM
My min setting is 768 MB and Max is 1536 MB
Which is approx 1.5 and 3 times the RAM size as recommended
Should I change these?
Blair

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Don Phillipson

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:18:13 AM11/24/09
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"bm" <Dar...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> When I am viewing I Player I often get an interruption and a message


> "Virtual Memory Minimum too low"
> Can I change this? and if so how?

VM is your swap file on the hard drive:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307886/en-us
shows how to customize this. Whenever in doubt
check the option "Let Windows manage this."

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Gerry

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:02:53 AM11/24/09
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Blair

Do you have plenty of free disk space? You can set a larger maximum
pagefile but it is normally better to add RAM. Accessing RAM is quicker
than accessing the pagefile.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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mikeyhsd

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:50:22 PM11/24/09
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yet change these to SYSTEM MANAGED and leave it alone.
 
 

bm

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:59:36 AM11/25/09
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My Total is 486148
Limit is 1277160
Peak is 780224

Blair

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bm

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:14:59 AM11/25/09
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"Don Phillipson" <e9...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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When I looked for Performance Maintenance on Control panel it was not
there
There was a maintenance item but this did not show the items which should
have been there as indicated by Performance & Maintenance
Blair


Jim

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:02:34 AM11/25/09
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"bm" <Dar...@aol.com> wrote in message
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In the Control Panel, click "System"
In the System Properties panel, click "Advanced"
Then, click "Settings"
Next, click "Advanced"
Finally, click "Virtual Memory"
On that final panel, select the button "System managed size"

This option is buried quite deeply.

Jim

Gerry

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:10:44 PM11/25/09
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Blair

Add more RAM. What is your computer make and model?

Changing to a system managed pagefile may eliminate the virtual memory
messages but will not help performance as you have insufficient RAM.


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Gerry
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Gerry wrote:
> Blair
>
> Do you have plenty of free disk space? You can set a larger maximum
> pagefile but it is normally better to add RAM. Accessing RAM is
> quicker than accessing the pagefile.
>
> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>
>
>

Jose

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:44:19 PM11/25/09
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Unless you (or someone who set up your computer) knows more about
managing memory that XP, set the system up to "System managed size".

Reboot.

If you still see the messages regarding virtual memory they are not
errors, but instead informational messages telling you that XP is
doing it's job.

If you still have the message, THEN decide what to do and if anything
needs to be adjusted.

Some installed programs have optional components that consume a lot of
VM and you may not need them. Right now, it is anybody's guess.
Merely looking at things and guessing will not make the message go
away.

We can look at your system at determine with certainty where your VM
is going and what to do about it if needed.

Please provide additional information about your system.

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

msinfo32

Click OK, and when the System Summary info appears, click Edit, Select
All, Copy and then paste
the information back here.

There will be some personal information (like System Name and User
Name), and whatever appears to
be private information to you, just delete it from the pasted
information.

This will minimize back and forth Q&A and eliminate guesswork.

bm

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:14:15 PM11/25/09
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I had a suspicion that more RAM was required
My PC is a Dell Desktop 1100 and has 512MB RAM
Would it be worth increasing it to 1GB and is it practical?
Blair


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bm

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:25:13 PM11/25/09
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"Jose" <jose...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Reboot.

msinfo32

Unfortunately I got a message "Cannot access Windows management
Instrumental Software
Windows Management files may be moved or missing"
Blair


bm

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:38:49 PM11/25/09
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"Jim" <j...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Thanks Jim. Have carried it out
Blair


Ken Blake, MVP

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:39:09 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:14:15 -0000, "bm" <Dar...@aol.com> wrote:

> I had a suspicion that more RAM was required
> My PC is a Dell Desktop 1100 and has 512MB RAM
> Would it be worth increasing it to 1GB

Maybe.


> And is it practical?


Yes, but not necessarily worthwhile.

How much RAM you need for good performance is *not* a
one-size-fits-all situation. You get good performance if the amount of
RAM you have keeps you from using the page file significantly, and
that depends on what apps you run. Most people running a typical range
of business applications under XP find that somewhere around 512MB
works well, others need more. Almost anyone will see poor performance
with less than 256MB. Some people, particularly those doing things
like editing large photographic images, can see a performance boost by
adding even more than 512MB--sometimes much more.

If you are currently using the page file significantly, more memory
will decrease or eliminate that usage, and improve your performance.
If you are not using the page file significantly, more memory will do
nothing for you. Go to
http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/winxp%5Ftweaks/ and download
WinXP-2K_Pagefile.zip and monitor your page file usage. That should
give you a good idea of whether more memory can help, and if so, how
much more.

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bm

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:43:25 PM11/25/09
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"Jose" <jose...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Reboot.

msinfo32

Unfortunately I got the following message "Cannot access the Windows
Management Instrumentation Software

Gerry

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:54:46 PM11/25/09
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Blair

It would be worth increasing provided you cannot reduce existing usage
by changing the way you use the
computer.

Practical -please see manual
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim1100/en/SM/specs.htm

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Gerry
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bm

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Nov 26, 2009, 12:01:21 PM11/26/09
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Many thanks
Blair

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Jose

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:29:27 PM11/28/09
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> >>>>> "David B." <m...@nomail.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>news:Onem94Qb...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> What is it set to? See step 2 here.
> >>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308417--
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> >>>>>> "bm" <Darr...@aol.com> wrote in message

> >>>>>>news:eya3JLOb...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>> When I am viewing I Player I often get an interruption  and a
> >>>>>>> message "Virtual Memory Minimum too low"
> >>>>>>> Can I change this?  and if so how?
> >>>>>>> Blair

If you add more RAM and do not change the way the paging file is
managed (by letting Windows do it), you will have more RAM, but your
paging file will not have changed. You may not need to add more RAM
to alleviate the message.

I have half the RAM you do! But we are not all going to be running
the same things...

You can fix your msinfo32 issue:

On the Desktop, right-click My Computer, and then click Manage.

Under Services and Applications, click Services, and then stop the
Windows Management Instrumentation service. If asked about stopping
other services (Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)),
respond in the affirmative.

Delete all of the files and folder that are in the c:\Windows
\System32\Wbem\Repository folder (they will be recreated when you
reboot).

Immediately restart the computer to the Firewall will be restarted.

The Repository folder information is recreated when the computer
restarts.

Try msinfo32 now.

bm

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:20:34 AM11/29/09
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"Jose" <jose...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Try msinfo32 now.

Thanks for your help
I carried out your instructions but I still ended with the message "Can't
access the Windows management Instrumentation Software. Windows management

Jose

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:27:36 AM11/30/09
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On Nov 29, 10:20 am, "bm" <Darr...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Jose" <jose_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Unfortunately that is all I have in my suggestion box for that
situation.

If you want to pursue it, some Google searches for that message may
help.

bm

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:36:01 AM11/30/09
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"Jose" <jose...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for your help
Blair


John John - MVP

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:24:10 AM11/30/09
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bm wrote:

> I carried out your instructions but I still ended with the message "Can't
> access the Windows management Instrumentation Software. Windows management
> may be moved or missing"

Try here: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/repairwmi.htm

John

bm

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"John John - MVP" <aude...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
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Many thanks for your help[
I downloaded the utility and read the instructions but when I tried to open
the utility I was met by a series of notes with instructions some of the
them saying certain files could not be found. By this time I realised I was
out of my depth and abandoned my effort
Blair


John John - MVP

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Nov 30, 2009, 12:01:33 PM11/30/09
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Forget about the utility, it's very difficult to use and you need
advanced Windows skills to decipher the messages that it will give you.
Instead just try the other suggested fix, as explained on the web page
try this:

1- Click Start, Run and type the following command:

rundll32 wbemupgd, UpgradeRepository

2- Re-register the WMI components, run the following commands at the
command prompt:

* cd /d %windir%\system32\wbem
* for %i in (*.dll) do RegSvr32 -s %i
* for %i in (*.exe) do %i /RegServer


(To avoid errors you can just copy and paste to the Run box or command
prompt.)

If this doesn't fix WMI then try the Comprehensive rebuild method as
explained at the end of the web page. Pay attention the the Important
note about the service pack level, if your Windows installation is at
SP3 you need to use a Windows XP CD slipstreamed to SP3 or you need to
point to the Service Pack 3 folder when prompted.

Good luck, if this doesn't work you are probably looking at a Windows
repair install (in-place upgrade) to repair WMI.

John

Twayne

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Dec 9, 2009, 7:14:43 PM12/9/09
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In news:%231753KR...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
bm <Dar...@aol.com> typed:

> Thanks for your reply
> I have 512 MB RAM
> My min setting is 768 MB and Max is 1536 MB
> Which is approx 1.5 and 3 times the RAM size as recommended
> Should I change these?
> Blair

Yes. You should be using System Managed Size in your case. The 1.5/3
figures are myths and only applicable at certain points of disk space and
pagefile usage.

HTH,

Twayne`

Twayne

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Dec 9, 2009, 7:17:49 PM12/9/09
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In news:uWRfhvgb...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
bm <Dar...@aol.com> typed:

> I had a suspicion that more RAM was required
> My PC is a Dell Desktop 1100 and has 512MB RAM
> Would it be worth increasing it to 1GB and is it practical?
> Blair

It's definitely practical and definitely worth it. The optimal RAM would be
2 Gig; larger than that and your'e running into the point of diminishing
returns. Most users with 3 Gig RAM would likely not see the pagefile being
used at all except for the requisite space for data dumps. Crucial.com is
one of the best places to dig into things like this, IMO. They'll even look
at what RAM you currently have and suggest what you should be able to use.

HTH,

Twayne`

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