How To Use Sysinternals Contig.exe
ColTom2
I would like to defrag the following file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb" with Sysinternals Contig v1.55.
I extracted the file Contig.exe from the Sysinternals Suite to my Desktop,
but when I click on it the Command Prompt screen briefly appears and then is
gone.
How can I use this application to defrag the file listed above? Please
give me specific instructions.
Thanks,
ColTom2
Pegasus [MVP]
"ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
messages visible:
1. Click Start
2. Type the three letters cmd
3. Click OK
4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
desktop\contig.exe
5. Read the message(s) you see.
meerkat
Start / Run , and type in CMD
Now you are in the Command window.
Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
command window.
Then add the full path to you file...
C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
bw..
John Wunderlich
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Step 1.5: Click "Run".
-- John
ColTom2
ColTom2
"Pegasus [MVP]" <ne...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Pegasus [MVP]
"John Wunderlich" <jwund...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Oops . . . Thank you.
ColTom2
for some reason.
ColTom2
"meerkat" <wai...@meerkatmanor.com> wrote in message
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Bob I
ColTom2
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy, transfer,
defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only Windows
file that I have ever seen like this.
Very unique file to say the least.....
ColTom2
"Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ColTom2
does not appear in Safemode.
ColTom2
"ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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ju.c
"Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface) application
for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very powerful
defragmentation application designed for Windows NT/2000/XP
operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check Sysinternals
webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark Russinovich
and Bryce Cogswell."
Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/eXcessive%20Software/PowerDefragmenter.zip
ju.c
"ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
SPAMCOP User
If you downloaded it from the authors website you would see the instructions
of use. Here's the website:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx
--
SPAMCOP User
Ian D
>I should have explained further what I meant by "Stealth" mode....the file
> does not appear in Safemode.
>
> ColTom2
>
>
not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a temporary
workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up, tmp.edb
probably won't be there. It will be created when required.
ColTom2
I have always found it in the listed file string after reboot. The file is
always the same size 1,032kb. Also apparently when it is rebuilt the file is
fragmented for whatever reason, as Windows Defrag cannot currently Defrag
this file on my laptop.
I have a Sony desktop running XP Pro SP3 with this file and have no
problems with Windows Defrag running through to completion, but my Toshiba
laptop XP Home SP3 will not run through the Defrag to completion.
I have fixed this problem once or twice before, but I never really found
exactly what allowed me to run Windows Defrag to completion sometimes while
other times not. If I ever update Java to a new edition I always normally
have this Defrag problem with either of the computers.
Maybe you have an answer?
ColTom2
P.S. I appreciate your info about this file that you sent.
"Ian D" <tau...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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HeyBub
> I cannot get your instructions to work from the CMD Prompt.
>
> ColTom2
>
It is useless to tell what the computer does NOT do. Always provide what the
computer DOES do.
ColTom2
Thanks!
ColTom2
"ju.c" <bibidybu...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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Twayne
I suspect a normal defrag operation cannot touch it because it's in use.
I don't know how to tell when it's in use and when it's not, but I'd
suggest that maybe it lets defrage run OK on Pro but not on Home would
be due to some inconsistancy between the two, because a file simply
being "in use" shouldn't prevent defrag from completing, AFAIK.
It's also interesting to me that it's created fragmented. Since it's
only a 1 Meg file, it seems like there shouldn't be anything to cause it
to be fragmented upon creation unless the disk is full or thinks it's
full. It's just a database so there about has to be something else
going on there. Got access to any other Pro/Home machines to see if the
pattern is repeatable?
No help I know, but perhaps some musings that might trigger something.
Cheers,
Twayne
Ian D
> Hi Ian:
>
> I have always found it in the listed file string after reboot. The file
> is
> always the same size 1,032kb. Also apparently when it is rebuilt the file
> is
> fragmented for whatever reason, as Windows Defrag cannot currently Defrag
> this file on my laptop.
>
> I have a Sony desktop running XP Pro SP3 with this file and have no
> problems with Windows Defrag running through to completion, but my Toshiba
> laptop XP Home SP3 will not run through the Defrag to completion.
>
> I have fixed this problem once or twice before, but I never really found
> exactly what allowed me to run Windows Defrag to completion sometimes
> while
> other times not. If I ever update Java to a new edition I always normally
> have this Defrag problem with either of the computers.
>
> Maybe you have an answer?
>
> ColTom2
>
> P.S. I appreciate your info about this file that you sent.
>
>
so you can't touch it to move, delete, or defrag it. Other than
that, it just has normal file attributes. Also, I've found its
behaviour to be not always consistent. On my main XP Pro,
the file disappeared after reboot, and has not returned as of
now. The same has happened with my laptop with XP Pro.
I have another desktop with XP Pro, and when XP was started,
tmp.edb was there, displaying the time of the startup. I rebooted,
and now it's gone, weird.
Your situation is where a multi-boot comes in handy. If you
have problematic files, boot into the other OS and you have
full access to the first OS's partition for deleting, defragmenting,
etc.
Bob I
R. McCarty
averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open file handle(s)
to the file so it's not something you can delete or possibly modify with a
defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on it's location I'd guess
it is
a component of Windows Automatic updates.
"Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ColTom2
reading it correctly somewhere.
ColTom2
"R. McCarty" <PcEngWor...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Ian D
>I think you are right about it being a component of WU.... if I recall
> reading it correctly somewhere.
>
> ColTom2
>
To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic Updates service, and
make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator service is set
to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will either be gone,
or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now accessible and can
be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update transactions.
ColTom2
You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
you!
I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.
I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and low
off an on for a good period of time.
Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!
ColTom2
"Ian D" <tau...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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3c273
> Hi Ian:
>
> You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
> you!
>
> I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
> Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
> to the same status that it is currently.
>
> I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and
low
> off an on for a good period of time.
>
> Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!
>
> ColTom2
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis
ColTom2
not you.
Bet you learned a little something in the process....(I could say sour
grapes, couldn't resist.)
ColTom2
"3c273" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Rick V
a) So insignificant that it warrants no thought
b) Is not really possible since the file is either there and not accessible, or not there so irrelevent.
This reminds me of a line from the 1988 movie Off Limits by the Fred Ward character. "You guys are floating in a rowboat in a cesspool full of turds, and you look down at one turd and say 'That turd p#$(%^s me off!, I'm gonna do something about that turd!'"
(I could have resisted, but didn't want to)
> On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:28 PM ColTom2 wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I would like to defrag the following file
> "C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb" with Sysinternals Contig v1.55.
>
> I extracted the file Contig.exe from the Sysinternals Suite to my Desktop,
> but when I click on it the Command Prompt screen briefly appears and then is
> gone.
>
> How can I use this application to defrag the file listed above? Please
> give me specific instructions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:44 PM Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
>> messages visible:
>> 1. Click Start
>> 2. Type the three letters cmd
>> 3. Click OK
>> 4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
>> desktop\contig.exe
>> 5. Read the message(s) you see.
>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:58 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>> I cannot get your instructions to work from the CMD Prompt.
>>>
>>> ColTom2
>>>
>>>
>>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <ne...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Oocyo%23mpJH...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
>>> messages visible:
>>> 1. Click Start
>>> 2. Type the three letters cmd
>>> 3. Click OK
>>> 4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
>>> desktop\contig.exe
>>> 5. Read the message(s) you see.
>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:59 PM John Wunderlich wrote:
>>>> Step 1.5: Click "Run".
>>>>
>>>> -- John
>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
>>>>> Oops . . . Thank you.
>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 4:41 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, as your instructions worked! But the file still cannot be defragged
>>>>>> for some reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "meerkat" <wai...@meerkatmanor.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q4yvl.108847$q45....@newsfe07.ams2...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Are you ready ?. Then we`ll begin.
>>>>>> Start / Run , and type in CMD
>>>>>> Now you are in the Command window.
>>>>>> Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
>>>>>> command window.
>>>>>> Then add the full path to you file...
>>>>>> C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
>>>>>> Leave a space between the two items.
>>>>>> bw..
>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 5:03 PM Bob I wrote:
>>>>>>> Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 7:36 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>> It seems that you cannot do anything with this file
>>>>>>>> "C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy, transfer,
>>>>>>>> defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only Windows
>>>>>>>> file that I have ever seen like this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very unique file to say the least.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eHMcYqnp...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I should have explained further what I meant by "Stealth" mode....the file
>>>>>>>>> does not appear in Safemode.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23yCj5$opJHA...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> It seems that you cannot do anything with this file
>>>>>>>>> "C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy, transfer,
>>>>>>>>> defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only Windows
>>>>>>>>> file that I have ever seen like this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very unique file to say the least.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eHMcYqnp...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:03 PM ju.c wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You'll like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface) application
>>>>>>>>>> for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very powerful
>>>>>>>>>> defragmentation application designed for Windows NT/2000/XP
>>>>>>>>>> operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check Sysinternals
>>>>>>>>>> webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark Russinovich
>>>>>>>>>> and Bryce Cogswell."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
>>>>>>>>>> http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/eXcessive%20Software/PowerDefragmenter.zip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ju.c
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:20 PM SPAMCOP User wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> If you downloaded it from the authors website you would see the instructions
>>>>>>>>>>> of use. Here is the website:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> SPAMCOP User
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 PM Ian D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O1RPzHpp...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason you can't see it in SafeMode is because the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>> not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a temporary
>>>>>>>>>>>> workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up, tmp.edb
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably won't be there. It will be created when required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:51 PM meerkat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you ready ?. Then we`ll begin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Start / Run , and type in CMD
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are in the Command window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then add the full path to you file...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leave a space between the two items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bw..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 9:01 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ian:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have always found it in the listed file string after reboot. The file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always the same size 1,032kb. Also apparently when it is rebuilt the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragmented for whatever reason, as Windows Defrag cannot currently Defrag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this file on my laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Sony desktop running XP Pro SP3 with this file and have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems with Windows Defrag running through to completion, but my Toshiba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop XP Home SP3 will not run through the Defrag to completion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fixed this problem once or twice before, but I never really found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what allowed me to run Windows Defrag to completion sometimes while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other times not. If I ever update Java to a new edition I always normally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have this Defrag problem with either of the computers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you have an answer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I appreciate your info about this file that you sent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ian D" <tau...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23fu39ap...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O1RPzHpp...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason you can't see it in SafeMode is because the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a temporary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up, tmp.edb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably won't be there. It will be created when required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 9:49 PM HeyBub wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is useless to tell what the computer does NOT do. Always provide what the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer DOES do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:10 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now this is a "Hummer"! I am impressed....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ju.c" <bibidybu...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u2BPEPpp...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface) application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very powerful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defragmentation application designed for Windows NT/2000/XP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check Sysinternals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark Russinovich
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Bryce Cogswell."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/eXcessive%20Software/PowerDefragmenter.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ju.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O2P8X1mp...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:26 PM Twayne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect a normal defrag operation cannot touch it because it's in use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to tell when it's in use and when it's not, but I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest that maybe it lets defrage run OK on Pro but not on Home would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be due to some inconsistancy between the two, because a file simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being "in use" shouldn't prevent defrag from completing, AFAIK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's also interesting to me that it's created fragmented. Since it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 1 Meg file, it seems like there shouldn't be anything to cause it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be fragmented upon creation unless the disk is full or thinks it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full. It's just a database so there about has to be something else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going on there. Got access to any other Pro/Home machines to see if the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pattern is repeatable?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No help I know, but perhaps some musings that might trigger something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twayne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:35 PM Ian D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:upM7uvp...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with tmp.edb is that it always seems to be in use,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so you can't touch it to move, delete, or defrag it. Other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, it just has normal file attributes. Also, I've found its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour to be not always consistent. On my main XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file disappeared after reboot, and has not returned as of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. The same has happened with my laptop with XP Pro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have another desktop with XP Pro, and when XP was started,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tmp.edb was there, displaying the time of the startup. I rebooted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and now it's gone, weird.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your situation is where a multi-boot comes in handy. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have problematic files, boot into the other OS and you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full access to the first OS's partition for deleting, defragmenting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:01 AM Bob I wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it does not "need defragging".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:19 AM R. McCarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That database file is created as part of the bootup sequence. Usually it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open file handle(s)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the file so it's not something you can delete or possibly modify with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on it's location I'd guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a component of Windows Automatic updates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23xmv%23BwpJ...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:58 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are right about it being a component of WU.... if I recall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading it correctly somewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWor...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uH2nDMwp...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That database file is created as part of the bootup sequence. Usually it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open file handle(s)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the file so it's not something you can delete or possibly modify with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on it's location I'd guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a component of Windows Automatic updates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bob I" <bir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23xmv%23BwpJ...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:36 PM Ian D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uuSUZM0p...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic Updates service, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator service is set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will either be gone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now accessible and can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update transactions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:27 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ian:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the same status that it is currently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off an on for a good period of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ian D" <tau...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23OzqkD1...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uuSUZM0p...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic Updates service, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator service is set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will either be gone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now accessible and can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update transactions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:33 AM 3c273 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you have wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets deleted on shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Sorry, could not resist.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:00 PM ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll close by saying that Ian answered the question and it certainly was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet you learned a little something in the process....(I could say sour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grapes, couldn't resist.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ColTom2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "3c273" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ucZ%23e79pJ...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23JDCLB2...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets deleted on shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeze Row Group Header in WPF DataGrid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/98891749-f30a-4cbe-b711-dcaaee52bef3/freeze-row-group-header-in-wpf-datagrid.aspx
Jack Knoff
"Rick V" <rlvc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:201010311...@eggheadcafe.com...
Roy Smith
> I have to agree with Louis. 2 days to get an answer about how to defrag a 1mb file, that cannot possibly be defragmented, because it is not accessible when created, but is not created if you turn off the auto updates. I guess you could go so far as to dual boot your system, just to find that, because you didn't boot into your Windows OS, the file was never created, hence cannot be defragmented. Sounds like the 'ol catch 22 scenario. I believe you are right, we all learned something in this process (with the apparent exception of ColTom2). I know that I learned that there is no limit to the length of time a person will waste to solve a problem that is
>
> a) So insignificant that it warrants no thought
> b) Is not really possible since the file is either there and not accessible, or not there so irrelevent.
>
> This reminds me of a line from the 1988 movie Off Limits by the Fred Ward character. "You guys are floating in a rowboat in a cesspool full of turds, and you look down at one turd and say 'That turd p#$(%^s me off!, I'm gonna do something about that turd!'"
>
> (I could have resisted, but didn't want to)
>
>> On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:28 PM ColTom2 wrote:
What a moron you are.... did you even look at WHEN those messages were
written?
> Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
Oh that explains it... Do yourself a favor and get a real newsreader
and you won't be 18 months behind everyone else.
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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.4
Monday, October 04, 2010 8:35:03 PM