Dvorak Keyboard Layout, MS's version and one for Coders.

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Jan 4, 2003, 11:52:48 PM1/4/03
I've been doing some reading about Dvorak keyboard layouts. As I
spend more time programming, I have different keyboard preferences
over those that type letters/essays.

1) There are two dvorak keyboard layouts a) The one included in
windows xp, and b) the other one documented in several books.

The difference between these two are the locations of several
non-letter keys.

2) Here's a picture of MS's layout:

Here's one I believe is more suited for programmers:

3) the location of the '/', '[', ']', and '+' '-', in the other
layout is slightly more suited for one style.

4) This is a request for someone in the accessibility division to
spend 5 mins and add this version of dvorak to windows xp. It's a
suggestion that I believe would help. I can't say that many people
will benefit from this change, as dvorak use is minimal, and the
other dvorak setup, is just a fraction of this group.

5) There is one major problem that prevents users modding their
keyboard setup, and that is the Windows File Protection. As
kbddv.dll is protected, one can't hex edit the file easily to their

http://www.geocities.com/robm351/dvorak/ This page explains the issue.

Small request for an ergonomic issue.


Jim Macklin

Jan 5, 2003, 3:53:47 AM1/5/03
If you are a programmer, you should be able to do it

A Google search returned 81 pages on "Dvorak keyboard " most
looked like fluff pieces, but some surely are key mapping
program links and you can buy a keyboard with the Dvorak
layout ands switch as you wish.

"balon" <ba...@ey.com> wrote in message


Jan 5, 2003, 11:34:24 PM1/5/03

You are missing the point.

1) window file protection makes it harder than it has to be. You
can't just modify the keyboard dll or hex edit it. The links on the
page I provided explains the situation.

2) buying new hardware for a software solution is wrong.

Josef Franek

Jan 6, 2003, 12:49:18 AM1/6/03
You can buy a program (Keyboard Layout Manager) to generate a kbd*.dll file
to your own keyboard layout design. You then install it as a new
(additional) keyboard layout to go with your default or any other language.
I would like to have this program too, to make a new Czech layout which
would be easy to work with when using US physical keyboard. At this stage I
am not ready to spend $60US.

I am disappointed with Microsoft. It would not cost them much to include
similar utility in the OS.


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