Re: Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)

MowGreen [MVP]

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Apr 16, 2005, 5:05:25 PM4/16/05

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Uncle_Bob,

Did the previous release of KB891711 cause any issue ? Have found that
the latest release is installed whether the previous one did or did not
cause an issue. That should *NOT* be occurring.

MowGreen [MVP 2004-2005]

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Uncle_Bob wrote:

> According to my history, I installed KB891711 on March 8, 2005. Microsoft
> sent a new critical update message about an update to KB891711 - version 2
> dated April 12. When I tiried to install it my computer would not reboot
> normally. I had to reboot in Safe Mode and disable the update. I removed it
> entirely and tried again with no luck. Now I keep getting critical update
> messages, but I can't install the critical update.

Noel Paton

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Apr 16, 2005, 6:13:53 PM4/16/05

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Mow
AFAIK, the updated patch is exactly that - and will update an existing
patch. There's no 'opt-out' mechanism involved.

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Uncle_Bob

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Apr 16, 2005, 6:20:01 PM4/16/05

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I did not trace any issues to the previous release, but I don't know how to
check if it really installed. The history shows it, but the history also
shows the new one installed twice and I know I removed it both times.

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Apr 17, 2005, 10:16:02 AM4/17/05

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roxy_say's

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roxy_say's

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Apr 17, 2005, 10:36:03 AM4/17/05

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Roxy_say's I downloaded this KB891711.exe on 4/16/05 and later that night I
did a systems check and Dr. Watson snaphot advised me that this file may
interfe with my task bar and is has altered my Windows system. So this
morning I went to control panal to see if this file was in there and it was
not , and then I went to msconfig to see if it was in my start up under the
advanced tab and it was. I unchecked the box, rebooted my system and took
another Dr.Watson snapshot and now it's saying: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0
Service Provider has altered Windows.
Module Name: MSAFD.DLL
Discription: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0 Service Provider
Version: 4.10.1998
Product: Microsoft(R) Operating System
I dont know what to do- how to solve this Issue or if I should try to remove
this file ?

roxy_say's

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Apr 17, 2005, 10:48:03 AM4/17/05

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Please ignore the first 2 replys I wrote the 3rd one is my response to this
thread

"roxy_say's" wrote: Roxy_say's I downloaded this KB891711.exe on 4/16/05 and

later that night I
did a systems check and Dr. Watson snaphot advised me that this file may
interfe with my task bar and is has altered my Windows system. So this
morning I went to control panal to see if this file was in there and it was
not , and then I went to msconfig to see if it was in my start up under the
advanced tab and it was. I unchecked the box, rebooted my system and took
another Dr.Watson snapshot and now it's saying: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0
Service Provider has altered Windows.
Module Name: MSAFD.DLL
Discription: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0 Service Provider
Version: 4.10.1998
Product: Microsoft(R) Operating System
I dont know what to do- how to solve this Issue or if I should try to remove
this file ?

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>

roxy_say's

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Apr 17, 2005, 10:49:02 AM4/17/05

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"roxy_say's" wrote:Roxy_say's I downloaded this KB891711.exe on 4/16/05 and
later that night I
did a systems check and Dr. Watson snaphot advised me that this file may
interfe with my task bar and is has altered my Windows system. So this
morning I went to control panal to see if this file was in there and it was
not , and then I went to msconfig to see if it was in my start up under the
advanced tab and it was. I unchecked the box, rebooted my system and took
another Dr.Watson snapshot and now it's saying: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0
Service Provider has altered Windows.
Module Name: MSAFD.DLL
Discription: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0 Service Provider
Version: 4.10.1998
Product: Microsoft(R) Operating System
I dont know what to do- how to solve this Issue or if I should try to remove
this file ?

>
>

Maurice N ~ MVP

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Apr 17, 2005, 6:47:16 PM4/17/05

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roxy_say's wrote:
> Please ignore the first 2 replys I wrote the 3rd one is my response
> to this thread
>
> "roxy_say's" wrote: Roxy_say's I downloaded this KB891711.exe on
> 4/16/05 and later that night I
> did a systems check and Dr. Watson snaphot advised me that this file
> may interfe with my task bar and is has altered my Windows system. So
> this morning I went to control panal to see if this file was in there
> and it was not , and then I went to msconfig to see if it was in my
> start up under the advanced tab and it was. I unchecked the box,
> rebooted my system and took another Dr.Watson snapshot and now it's
> saying: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0 Service Provider has altered
> Windows. Module Name: MSAFD.DLL
> Discription: Microsoft Windows Socket 2.0 Service Provider
> Version: 4.10.1998
> Product: Microsoft(R) Operating System
> I dont know what to do- how to solve this Issue or if I should try to
> remove this file ?

Roxy:
Suggest you cease using Dr Watson. KB891711 was re-released by MS on April 12, 2005. If you got it then or later, and it installed ok, it's the good one you'd want to stay with.

Go back to MSCONFIG & re-enable it. And hopefully you won't have it listed twice in there. 891711 will be running as a Win98 service.

There are reports that older versions of ZoneAlarm firewall may hiccup after this update.
What firewall are you using & its version # ?
What antivirus are you using?
--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
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roxy_say's

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Apr 18, 2005, 5:08:05 PM4/18/05

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I downloaded the April 12,05 Kb8911711 on March 15,05 so that is good to knw.
What is wrong with Dr. Watson???
I have AVG Free addition and Bit-Defender also. I had Norton 04, but it was
slowing up my machine and I didnt like it so I never renewed Norton. I use
Sybot as a spyware dect & destroy I have used the vccleaner also. Bit
Defender found 3 virus's named Win32.bagel.j@mm on my system but norton had
them Qauantined so Bit Defender deleted them and fixed all that. I will go
back to msconfig to re-check the box's. I have noticed my cursor at certain
times kind of jiggles, lets just put it this way its noticable. other than
that I am haveing no-more problems. This KB891711 udate does not show up in
my add&remove it only shows up in my msconfig startup advanced tab. I am only
running windows 98, petiumim 111 64 ram I have more ram comming its just a
matter when hope its soon. Its not easy running on 64 ram.
I was just believin Dr. Watsons snapshot thinking I downloaded virused
update!!!
Thanks Maurice

Uncle_Bob

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Apr 18, 2005, 9:25:02 PM4/18/05

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I updated Zone Alarm, then repeated the Windows Update with no problem.
Thanks for the advide.

"Maurice N ~ MVP" wrote:

Noel Paton

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Apr 19, 2005, 3:45:13 PM4/19/05

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A more confused response would be difficult to find......

PLEASE place different context in different paragraphs, so that we have some
chance of working out WTF you're talking about!

PLEASE ignore Dr Watson - it's a good tool in its place, but it would seem
that its place is not here.

Please also repost after reinstalling the KB891711 patch after a fresh
download - as that fixes many problems (which may or may not be related to
your past history with Norton - I have my suspicions, but.....)

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