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wally

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May 15, 2008, 2:24:00 AM5/15/08
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Probably this seems "daft" but I have always paid for Windows Hotmail etc.
etc. and to this day I do not know what this is for. 14.99 per year.
All my friends do not pay for Hotmail. Where am I going wrong? What am I
paying for? Sending info. to Microsoft does not help I have had Hotmail and
MSN since 2001 and it does not make sense to me.

TaurArian

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May 15, 2008, 2:33:00 AM5/15/08
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TaurArian

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May 15, 2008, 2:31:01 AM5/15/08
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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May 15, 2008, 3:40:11 AM5/15/08
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This has nothing to do with Windows Update so I'm crossposting my reply to
MSN Discussion & Internet Mail newsgroups (the latter is monitored by the
Windows Live Hotmail team, or so they've told us).

Is it a na...@hotmail.com account or a na...@msn.com account?

If this looks familiar, you're saving $60 a year:
http://get.live.com/en-us/mailplus/features

Windows Live Hotmail Support
https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlmail&ct=eformts

Windows Live Hotmail Plus Support
https://support.live.com/signin.aspx?productKey=wlmailplus
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...winston

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May 15, 2008, 11:54:43 AM5/15/08
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A subscription to Hotmail(US, District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico) is currently $19.95 per year and has been that for quite some
time. If your plan is $14.99 per year, then others would be paying a premium of $4.96 per year.

If it is a Hotmail Plus account then Pop3 retrieval should also work.

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Alan

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May 15, 2008, 12:44:28 PM5/15/08
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Hi winston,

I've had a Hotmail account for probably over 10 years, and I've never had
to -- and still don't -- pay anything.

Were those of us, who did have Hotmail at the time Hotmail began charging,
'grandfathered' in to continue receiving it at no charge?

Alan

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Michael Santovec

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May 15, 2008, 2:08:20 PM5/15/08
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Free Hotmail accounts are still available.

Several years ago (I don't recall the exact date) Microsoft made a
change. If prior to that cut off date, you had accessed your free
Hotmail account via Outlook Express, you could continue to do so. If
you had not accessed the account with Outlook Express prior to that date
or you got a free Hotmail account after that date, then you only had web
access. For the non-grandfathered accounts you would have to pay for
Hotmail Plus if you wanted to access the account via a mail client such
as Outlook Express.

At some point (previously announced as June 30, 2008 but later postponed
to some future date not yet announced) the HTTP access in Outlook
Express (known as WEB DAV) will stop working for both free grandfathered
accounts as well as the paid Hotmail Plus accounts. The POP3 access for
Hotmail Plus accounts will continue to work with any mail client.

Hotmail is going to drop the Web DAV support on the server end in favor
of the newer Delta Sync. This is currently supported in the Window Live
Mail client and works with all Hotmail accounts, free or paid,
grandfathered or not.

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Joan Archer

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May 15, 2008, 4:38:07 PM5/15/08
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I believe the date you're trying to remember was September 2004. <g>

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> Free Hotmail accounts are still available.
>
> Several years ago (I don't recall the exact date) Microsoft made a change.
> If prior to that cut off date, you had accessed your free Hotmail account
> via Outlook Express, you could continue to do so. If you had not accessed
> the account with Outlook Express prior to that date or you got a free
> Hotmail account after that date, then you only had web access. For the
> non-grandfathered accounts you would have to pay for Hotmail Plus if you
> wanted to access the account via a mail client such as Outlook Express.
>

>snip>

Earle Horton

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May 15, 2008, 5:01:30 PM5/15/08
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I thought I was getting old. I check my credit card statements every month
for items I don't recognize. I am sure that a recurring monthly $14.95 to
something like "Hotmail" would ring more than a few bells. ;^)

Cheers,

Earle

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...winston

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May 15, 2008, 9:58:15 PM5/15/08
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Hotmail Plus - August 2004(19.95 U.S.)
Hotmail Extra Storage - Sept 2001(U.S. - $19.95/yr), Winter 2002(9 other countries)

fyi...look for 14.99/yr not 14.95 per mo. if comparing to the op's post

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Susaninamess

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Jun 23, 2009, 10:15:01 PM6/23/09
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I pay $10 a month to use MSN mail. Hotmail is free as far as I know. They are
two different things. Supposed to be more feathures with MSN mail.

...winston

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Jun 24, 2009, 2:06:07 PM6/24/09
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All Msn accounts are also Hotmail accounts(accessible by the web interface, Msn software, pop3 protocol, DeltaSync protocol, and
WebDAV[until Sept 1 2009 for grandfathered accounts].


A grandfathered Hotmail account is one that was in use in Outlook Express or Outlook prior to fall 2004 via the WebDAV server *and*
the use in OE was active and the account never expired(hotmail inactivity). Contrary to what one may read elsewhere on the
internet, the age of a Hotmail account does not determine 'grandfathered' status....use of the WebDAV server in OE and OL and use
without expiration does and prior to the fall of 2004 . Expiration criteria in the fall of 2004 was 30 days.


There are/have been multiple plans...a few that are still in existence.
-MSn Premium (dial up and partner accounts..from 18.95, 19.95, 21.95)
-MSn Bring your own isp (9.95)
-Hotmail Plus (19.95/yr, more storage, no expiration, no ads)
-Msn Senior accounts(rare, 5.95-6.95 per mo)

The above types of plans for new subscribers usually provide a few free months of service.


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