RE: Error: 0x13EC Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 1 (KB92930
chic 001@discussions.microsoft.com crazy chic 001
"The Dane" wrote:
> I get this code when trying to install update for Microsoft .NET Framework
> 3.0 Service Pack 1 (KB929300)
> It fails to install the update.
Jan Kuipers
update Language Pack for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0:x86.
I've asked Microsoft what this error means but they didn't know. So I
tried to install it manually and then I got the notification that I've
got a newer version of the program on my PC, so the update didn't
install.
Until now I still don't know what 0x13EC means and why I get this update
offered by Windows Update.
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Jan Kuipers
Robert Aldwinckle
"Jan Kuipers" <j...@n.invalid> wrote in message news:eYWzOfxR...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I got this error code too but then when I tried to install the optional
> update Language Pack for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0:x86.
> I've asked Microsoft what this error means but they didn't know. So I
> tried to install it manually and then I got the notification that I've
> got a newer version of the program on my PC, so the update didn't
> install.
> Until now I still don't know what 0x13EC means and why I get this update
> offered by Windows Update.
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/726335.htm
(Live Search for
0x13EC 5100
)
So far it seems nobody who has reported this symptom has tried any diagnosis.
Hmm... but apparently the "heavier hammer" approach has been successful...
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/vssetup/thread/5192aaff-69be-484f-91f0-7f0124488373/
(same search)
<quote>
I had the same problem and installing 3.5 manually before the VS installed worked for me.
</quote>
Good luck
Robert Aldwinckle
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Jan Kuipers
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/726335.htm I had already found
but there it's about the .Net Framework 3.0 itself and not about the
update Language Pack.
The second link:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/vssetup/thread/5192aaff-69be-484f-91f0-7f0124488373
doesn't work at the moment because of maintenance, so I look later.
But I still wonder why Microsoft doesn't know the error code. By the
way, in Software I find that I already have .Net Framework 3.0 Service
Pack 1 Language Pack - NLD and also version 3.5 with Dutch language
pack.
So I begin to think that I don't need that optional update for 3.0
because I have a newer version 3.0 SP1. This explains maybe why I get
that message that I've got a newer version of the program on my PC when
I try a manual installation. And it may be that Windows Update gives an
unnecessary update?!
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Jan Kuipers
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Robert Aldwinckle
"Jan Kuipers" <j...@n.invalid> wrote in message news:%23w3DpG1...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Robert, the first link:
> http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/726335.htm I had already found
> but there it's about the .Net Framework 3.0 itself and not about the
> update Language Pack.
Ok. I was just using it as an example. Essentially I'm suggesting
that you to search for both the hex and decimal values of that code
in *any* diagnostic file which the update creates or changes.
> The second link:
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/vssetup/thread/5192aaff-69be-484f-91f0-7f0124488373
> doesn't work at the moment because of maintenance, so I look later.
The main message from that example is that doing the relevant manual install
apparently worked for one user. That is a common observation for many
types of updates.
There are several reasons why it succeeds. If there is a permissions issue it may be
that the manual installer is more authorized than the Windows Update service.
If the auto update is packaged as an minimal patch that procedure may not work
as smoothly as a full downloaded update. Most significantly IMO its diagnostics
are usually clearer than they are when obscured by the Auto Update machinery.
And in that case too, the user becomes more aware that a problem installing a
manually downloaded patch is more associated with the product being updated
than the distribution software (such as Windows Update); so then they are more
likely to try finding others with more specific experience in other more relevant
newsgroups and forums.
> But I still wonder why Microsoft doesn't know the error code.
One of the links I found explicitly acknowledged that 5100 = Asia
That could be relevant but I suspect it could also be a red herring.
That's why I emphasized that *context* is more important than the
value of a return code.
> By the
> way, in Software I find that I already have .Net Framework 3.0 Service
> Pack 1 Language Pack - NLD and also version 3.5 with Dutch language
> pack.
> So I begin to think that I don't need that optional update for 3.0
> because I have a newer version 3.0 SP1. This explains maybe why I get
> that message that I've got a newer version of the program on my PC when
> I try a manual installation. And it may be that Windows Update gives an
> unnecessary update?!
Perhaps but I suspect what it really indicates is that one of the common modules
has been regressed, so AU is picking a security update which would repair that
damage. Is there a repair option for the thing that you have already installed?
Also, you might get some ideas by checking out Aaron Stebner's blog...
Hmm... you haven't disclosed your OS, have you? ; }
So, if you have Vista this may be of interest...
(Search on that blog for
language pack
)
<quote>
One key difference to note is that if you try to run an MSI-based .NET Framework 3.0
language pack setup on Windows Vista, the return code is not artificially mapped to 0
to indicate success like it is in the .NET Framework 2.0 language packs. Instead it will
return code 5100, which according to this list that I previously published is a generic
setup block return code.
</quote>
HTH
Robert
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Jan Kuipers
about the .NET Framework.
But there is still one question on my side: why does Windows Update
offer an optional update (a Language pack) for .NET Framework 3.0 while
I don't have version 3.0 on my PC but 3.0 Service Pack 1?
That doesn't make sense to me.
(Using XP Pro with SP3)
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Robert Aldwinckle
"Jan Kuipers" <j...@n.invalid> wrote in message news:ela32cAS...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for your detailed answer. I've been reading a lot of articles
> about the .NET Framework.
> But there is still one question on my side: why does Windows Update
> offer an optional update (a Language pack) for .NET Framework 3.0 while
> I don't have version 3.0 on my PC but 3.0 Service Pack 1?
> That doesn't make sense to me.
Typically you can't have a Service Pack for a product without first having
the product.
In any case I gave you a possible reason...
...
>> > So I begin to think that I don't need that optional update for 3.0
>> > because I have a newer version 3.0 SP1. This explains maybe why I get
>> > that message that I've got a newer version of the program on my PC when
>> > I try a manual installation. And it may be that Windows Update gives an
>> > unnecessary update?!
>>
>>
>> Perhaps but I suspect what it really indicates is that one of the common modules
>> has been regressed, so AU is picking a security update which would repair that
>> damage. Is there a repair option for the thing that you have already installed?
...
You would have to try using verbose logging with AU (ref. KB902093)
possibly supplemented by a ProcMon trace to confirm that idea.
Good luck
Robert
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Jan Kuipers
Just to be sure I've tried a manual installation again of the optional
update. And again I got the message that the update couldn't be
installed because I have a newer version of the program installed.
So I phoned to Microsoft and finally they said that I don't need the
update at all. Also they didn't know why this optional update was
offered.
I understood that the Dutch Microsoft has no influence at the updates
which are offered by the US Microsoft. (And I thought that the Dutch
Windows Update came out of the Netherlands but that's not the case?!)
So I leave it this way. But thanks anyway!
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Jan Kuipers
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Robert Aldwinckle
"Jan Kuipers" <j...@n.invalid> wrote in message news:O43Ti2LS...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Robert for your answer.
> Just to be sure I've tried a manual installation again of the optional
> update.
> And again I got the message that the update couldn't be
> installed because I have a newer version of the program installed.
I still suspect that that means that part of the update (e.g. a module) has been regressed.
The manual install may be simply testing the registry values which say whether a
superseding update has been applied without testing whether all of it is still in place.
AU would be testing not just registry values but module versions as well.
> So I phoned to Microsoft and finally they said that I don't need the
> update at all. Also they didn't know why this optional update was
> offered.
Which you could find out using the verbose logging I mentioned.
The other approach that people who don't want to bother figuring this out take
is to uninstall all .NET stuff and then reinstall it more carefully.
> I understood that the Dutch Microsoft has no influence at the updates
> which are offered by the US Microsoft. (And I thought that the Dutch
> Windows Update came out of the Netherlands but that's not the case?!)
> So I leave it this way. But thanks anyway!
You're welcome. Good luck.
Robert
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Jan Kuipers
regarding to the .NET Framework.
Finally I have uninstalled all the versions from .NET Framework. It took
8 hours to get it all fixed again so I'm glad it's ready. I noticed that
it is very important to reboot again every time after a change has been
made. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100/en-us was the article I
used.
And now Windows Update gives no error code anymore.
Thanks for your advice.
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Jan Kuipers
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klebom
Jan Kuipers;4080082 Wrote:
> I got this error code too but then when I tried to install the optional
> update Language Pack for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0:x86.
>
I got error code *0x13EC* (5100) too when I tried to install "Microsoft
.NET Framework 3.0: Language Pack for x86 (KB928416)". I tried
uninstalling all versions of .NET framework and reinstalling. The
"Language Pack" still failed with same error code...
After reinstalling everything but this "3.0 Language Pack", I tried
manually uninstalling the "2.0 Language Pack". After that the "3.0
Language Pack" installed with no error. "3.0 Language Pack" actually
installs "2.0 Language Pack" too, just as "Microsoft .NET Framework
3.0"-installer will install "Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0" if not
already installed.
Stellan
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mensagem de erro:
erro 3 do windows ao carregar java vm
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"Altair José de Assis" escreveu:
> Altamiro FRANCISCO DE ASSIS
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> Windows XP profissional, Versão 2002 Pack 2, Pentium 4 CPU 2,80 GHZ
> 480 MB DE RAM.
> Mensagem de Erro:
> Erro 3 do Windows AO carregar java vm
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> "O dinamarquês", escreveu:
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>> Eu tenho este código ao tentar instalar a atualização para o Microsoft. NET Framework
>> 3.0 Service Pack 1 (KB929300)
>> Ele não consegue instalar a atualização.
Tom Willett
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: "Altair Jos� de Assis" escreveu:
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: > Altamiro FRANCISCO DE ASSIS
: > -
: > CPU
: > Windows XP profissional, Vers�o 2002 Pack 2, Pentium 4 CPU 2,80 GHZ
: > 480 MB DE RAM.
: > Mensagem de Erro:
: > Erro 3 do Windows AO carregar java vm
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: > "O dinamarqu�s", escreveu:
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: >> Eu tenho este c�digo ao tentar instalar a atualiza��o para o Microsoft.
NET Framework
: >> 3.0 Service Pack 1 (KB929300)
: >> Ele n�o consegue instalar a atualiza��o.