RE: ActiveX Not Working After KB896688 (MS05-052)
oknowhi
think) my IE was screwed
up. There were no drop down menu items on top toolbar showing but they would
drop down if I scrolled over them, my start menu lost all its small icons,
any folders I went to showed icons only and I could not change it back to
list like I normally have them, and a few other things were "changed" I don't
remember. So after reading the posts here, I UNINSTALLED all of the days
updates ( I had 8 of them) and then reinstalled one by one (this time with my
AV off) except I did not reinstall KB896688( only downloaded and saved it).
What I finally did was went to KB896688 on MS downloads site and then DL it
from there to SAVE and then decided to try it again installing from my own
computer and now my IE and computer all works fine. I also made sure I had
my AV disabled this time when saving it and when installing it with nothing
else
running or open. I think what happened when trying to DL all 8 from WIN
Update site, something was corrupted in the process of DL or installation.
If you scroll down here on this discussion board you will see many folks are
having all sorts of problems with this months updates from MS especially I
think if you try to take them all from the WIN Update site using Express and
doing all of them at once.
I have found during this past year that many of the updates coming in on the
Auto Update site give problems. Either downloading or installing or giving
error messages or screwing something up on my computer.
So I have generally taken to seeing which ones are there to be updated and
then finding them either on a MS download site or go to the MS Updates
catalog http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp and get
them from there.
Another trick that works for me is to download and SAVE them first to a
folder I keep them in and then Install them one by one later. Many folks
claim you should also keep your AV off while installing and /or downloading
them.
Most of these problems started when MS offered Microsoft Updates instead of
only Windows Updates. I, in fact then disabled Microsoft Updates and only use
Windows Updates and go to Office Updates to get them seperately. My Windows
Update site works fine now but as I said often things screw up in the process
of DL and Installing the updates so I use the procedure discribved above.
Good Luck.
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Dan in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
"DSpeer" wrote:
> After I updated my machine with the above patch (KB896688), no ActiveX
> controls will load in my browser. This includes things like Flash and Windows
> Update. If I uninstall this patch, everything is working again. I have seen
> other people have had trouble with this also, but I don't see any solutions
> yet. I have verified that it is not the security settings in IE that is
> keeping the controls from loading.
>
> Anyone have this same issue? Anyone resolved this issue? Thanks!
DSpeer
all apps were closed and antivirus was disabled before I installed it. Still
messed up.
JEdwards
manually control the roll-out of patches to all of our workstations so we're
holding off on installing it. We use a custom ActiveX object in IE for
Computer-Telephony Integration, and after installing the patch the ActiveX
object would not load.
When I reviewed the bulletin I found the following information:
•This update introduces additional checks before a COM object is allowed to
run in Internet Explorer. The intent of this change is to prevent COM objects
that were not designed to be instantiated in Internet Explorer from being
instantiated in Internet Explorer.
Could it be that our ActiveX object was "not designed to be instantiated in
Internet Explorer"? If so, what are the criteria that Microsoft uses to
decide if an object is worthy to run in Internet Explorer? If we knew this
information, maybe we could make the necessary changes to our object to
prevent this problem. If anybody can provide any insight into this at all, I
would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
DSpeer
So, if it is an update to keep rogue ActiveX controls from loading, then
Windows Update and Flash fit into that category.
I had seen a fix for a previous Update where you went into the
%windir%\registration folder and allowed access to some files and folders,
but this did not fix my issue. It seems we are not alone with this issue, but
there does not appear to be a fix yet.
whatiswrongnow
forth with a rep from Microsoft Support. I have been told to do all kinds of
things, to no avail. I keep asking how I can Uninstall the latest Windows
updates. When I click on my Add/Remove Programs, it is a blank so I cannot
even see them.
bwbublitz
Windows directory under the folder with the patch name in it.
($NtUninstallKB899688$) for instance.
XyMeX
Sites" the activex control works.
Does anyone has other solution to make it work in "Internet Zone"?
OneRound
you try to access user accounts via control pannel i know next to nothing
about xp but i think it's something to do with scripting.
DBuckner
Dave
"OneRound" <OneR...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Ka Nai`a
ActiveX never prompts to install ActiveX, even after tweaking the security
settings. Another problem I believe may be releated to this is the Add /
Remove Programs comes up with this error:
Line: 21
Char: 1
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: res://appwiz.cpl/default.hta
I followed the suggestion to remove KB896688 and it worked again. Only
problem is I forgot to disable automatic update so it decided to update it
self and the problems were back so I had to uninstall it again and disable
automatic updates.
Zhuang@discussions.microsoft.com Winson Zhuang
problem without uninstalling the KB896688 patch. Till then, we've got to wait
for MS to come out with an alternative patch or to give more details on what
the current patch does.
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
very long time, and that several applications have "taken advantage" of.
It's not Microsoft hat needs to come out with an alternative patch, but the
application developers to rewrite their applicatons to operate in the now
/secured/ mode.
"Winson Zhuang" <Winson Zhu...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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kgstrong
> What the current patch does is plug a security hole that's existed for a
> very long time, and that several applications have "taken advantage" of.
>
> It's not Microsoft hat needs to come out with an alternative patch, but the
> application developers to rewrite their applicatons to operate in the now
> /secured/ mode.
>
Uh, EXCUSE ME, but the main applications that do not work after KB896688
are MICROSOFT UPDATE and ADD/REMOVE Programs!!!
The dimwits at Microsoft need to clean up their own act before they
inflict their incompetence on the rest of us. They publish insecure
software and then blame everyone else for their mistakes!
MVP, my ass!
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
conversation, so I'll take the intrusion with the grain of salt it deserves.
As for the "main applications" that do not work, the patch shuts down some
significant COM capabilities that were enabled, but should not have been.
Yes, it will affect some Microsoft products, as well as third-party
products, however, my response is still the same, the /developers/ of those
products will need to issue patches or updates to their products that do not
use this capability. In some cases, those "developers" are Microsoft, and
I'm sure they're actively working on those fixes right now -- now that
/they/ have the patched software as well.
In the meantime, though, KB870669 contains guidance on how to 'workaround'
this new limitation.
As for your reference to the "dimwits at Microsoft", etc. etc. -- that whole
paragraph was totally out of line. Had you been a party to this thread who
was trying to get a fix, it might have been one thing. But, since you
'dropped in' from nowhere, the entire post is really unnecessary,
inappropriate, and pointless.
As for the "they publish insecure software...", let it be said again, for
the gazillionth time... EVERYBODY publishes insecure software, and I'd bet a
year's salary that anything you wrote and published would have an insecurity
found within a day of being released. The question is.... does anybody care
to analyze and exploit an insecurity you put in your software, or would they
rather analyze and exploit a security bug in the most popular software in
the world.
As for the "...they blame everybody else for their mistakes".... I don't see
where anybody is blaming anybody for anything. A security flaw was
identified; it was fixed. The security repair caused some things to break
that were taking advantage of an insecure technology. It happens.
Finally... as for the snide comment about MVPs, or, considering the
alternative the personal attack implied by that comment, just remember that
it's the /MVP/s who are contributing to the solutions in these public
newsgroups. Be careful of where you point your flame gun, lest you set your
only exit on fire.
I offered a very direct, objective, and honest statement about what would
need to be done as a result of this change in the accessibility of some COM
functionality in Internet Explorer. I really don't see where it warranted
the tone of your response, except that, perhaps, you're just looking for
someplace to 'vent'.
"kgstrong" <kgst...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TomTinsley
KB896688 one machine has broken ActiveX and one does not. Why?
TomTinsley
KB896688 one machine has broken ActiveX and one does not. Why?
Lawrence Garvin [MVP] wrote:
Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
See if this helps:
Download the file OLEfix.zip available here (it is a registry file
that origin from MS Support, and it has fixed the ActiveX problem
for several people):
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
Regards,
Torgeir
Winson Zhuang wrote:
--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
See if this helps:
Download the file OLEfix.zip available here (it is a registry file
that origin from MS Support, and it has fixed the ActiveX problem
for several people):
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
Regards,
Torgeir
JEdwards wrote:
> We're also having some trouble with this patch as well...fortunately we
> manually control the roll-out of patches to all of our workstations so we're
> holding off on installing it. We use a custom ActiveX object in IE for
> Computer-Telephony Integration, and after installing the patch the ActiveX
> object would not load.
>
> When I reviewed the bulletin I found the following information:
>
> •This update introduces additional checks before a COM object is allowed to
> run in Internet Explorer. The intent of this change is to prevent COM objects
> that were not designed to be instantiated in Internet Explorer from being
> instantiated in Internet Explorer.
>
> Could it be that our ActiveX object was "not designed to be instantiated in
> Internet Explorer"? If so, what are the criteria that Microsoft uses to
> decide if an object is worthy to run in Internet Explorer? If we knew this
> information, maybe we could make the necessary changes to our object to
> prevent this problem. If anybody can provide any insight into this at all, I
> would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
>
> "DSpeer" wrote:
>
>
>>After I updated my machine with the above patch (KB896688), no ActiveX
>>controls will load in my browser. This includes things like Flash and Windows
>>Update. If I uninstall this patch, everything is working again. I have seen
>>other people have had trouble with this also, but I don't see any solutions
>>yet. I have verified that it is not the security settings in IE that is
>>keeping the controls from loading.
>>
>>Anyone have this same issue? Anyone resolved this issue? Thanks!
Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
> After I updated my machine with the above patch (KB896688), no ActiveX
> controls will load in my browser. This includes things like Flash and Windows
> Update. If I uninstall this patch, everything is working again. I have seen
> other people have had trouble with this also, but I don't see any solutions
> yet. I have verified that it is not the security settings in IE that is
> keeping the controls from loading.
>
> Anyone have this same issue? Anyone resolved this issue? Thanks!
Hi,
See if this helps:
Download the file OLEfix.zip available here (it is a registry file
that origin from MS Support, and it has fixed the ActiveX problem
for several people):
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
See if this helps:
Download the file OLEfix.zip available here (it is a registry file
that origin from MS Support, and it has fixed the ActiveX problem
for several people):
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
Regards,
Torgeir
Ka Nai`a wrote:
Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
> Question... I have teo Windows XP Pro SP2 boxes. After installing
> KB896688 one machine has broken ActiveX and one does not. Why?
Hi,
See if this helps:
Download the file OLEfix.zip available here (it is a registry file
that origin from MS Support, and it has fixed the ActiveX problem
for several people):
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
kgstrong
First, I want to apologize to you for my last post here. As you pointed
out, it was rude and insensitive, and completely uncalled for. I will
not ask for forgiveness, because I do not deserve it. Again, my sincere
apologies for losing my temper and venting my frustration with Microsoft
Update on you personally.
However, I still question the wisdom of publishing an update that locks
users out of the Microsoft Update website (including myself, until I
removed KB896688), regardless of the security implications. Without
access to Microsoft Update, there is no going back, particularly for
less computer-literate users who set their system to automatic updates.
I suppose the law of unintended consequences may be at work here - even
"all-powerful" Microsoft can make a mistake. I just want Microsoft
Update to work reliably - and it has not worked on my system for months
now. First KB823353 was installing every day for over a month (in
Automatic Update mode), then nothing would install (with no error code),
either manually or automatically. I've tried working with MS Support,
sending them my registry and all the log files. They sent me patches
for my registry, suggestions, etc. - none of them worked. Finally, on
my own - not at the suggestion of Support, I took the error list of 12
uninstalled updates (from Microsoft Update) and downloaded the patches
from download.Microsoft.com to install offline. That worked - all 12
installed - FINALLY!
Then, to my dismay this activex problem cropped up. I'm not sure how to
proceed - my trust in Microsoft Update is shaken...perhaps it is best to
use it only to find what updates are available, then manually download
and install them one at a time.
Sorry, still venting I guess....again, my apologies,
kgstrong (aka kudzuken)
Ottmar Freudenberger
> However, I still question the wisdom of publishing an update that locks
> users out of the Microsoft Update website (including myself, until I
> removed KB896688), regardless of the security implications.
Guess what? That wasn't intended by Microsoft, nor does the issue
occur to all users (not even the majority, only a few are running
into the glitch). Even MS cannot test any update on any configuration.
Right now it's AFAIK still unclear, _what_ the cause for the issue
only _a few_ users are seeing is. It _may_ have to somehting with
the applications running in the background while installing the
update. Complaining _here_ in the newsgroup doesn't help MS in
identifying the culprit for the issues. Open a call to PSS.
Meanwhile, did you gave http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
a shot? The file has been sent out by a Microsoft Support personal
to an user ("whatswrongnow"), who thankfully posted back here.
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
Bye,
Freudi
TomTinsley
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\CLSID]
@="{0000031A-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}"
Everything works now
Thanks
Ottmar Freudenberger
>I was missing:
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\CLSID]
> @="{0000031A-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}"
Thanks for your feedback! :-)
> Everything works now
Fine,
Freudi
Marcus
could TEST these updates out before launching them into cyberspace!
Marcus
"kgstrong" <kgst...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ottmar Freudenberger
> AMEN.........they suck....
Do you know what really sucks? Those postings like yours in threads
where you can already find a solution for the problem.
Bye,
Freudi
Marcus
with bogus software.......especially these untested updates! I suppose
quality control is a concept Microsoft never heard of. I don't know about
you, but I'm fed up spending hours working around their bum updates that
screw up the works of other applications, as well as their own. Don't you
have better things to do then tear your hair out being guinea pigs for their
slipshod programs?
Hey, after installing this last one (KB896688) many of us couldn't even get
to their own Windows Update site. Come to think of it, maybe that was the
plan!
M
"Ottmar Freudenberger" <fre...@gmx.net> wrote in message
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Ottmar Freudenberger
> Here's the solution: Put the pressure on Microsoft to stop wasting our time
> with bogus software.......
That's bull in case you want to be save.
Download the file OLEfix.zip available here (it is a registry file
that origin from MS Support, and it has fixed the ActiveX problem
for several people, getting this problem after installing KB896688):
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip
Extract it and double click the contained OLEfix.reg file. Click Yes
on the dialog box that asks you if you are sure to add the information
in OLEfix.reg to the registry.
You may have to reboot your machine afterwards.
Keep on whining if you like. I prefer providing solutions, which you
may have found already if you would have read the threads mentioning
the *seldom* problems with KB896688 in *certain* configurations.
Bye,
Freudi
PA Bear
3:08 PM ET). Did you try this fix?
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~PA Bear
Marcus
merged into the registry.
"PA Bear" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ottmar Freudenberger
> Yes......I got a message that it is not a registry file and couldn't be
> merged into the registry.
Blah, you have to unzip the OLEfix.zip which includes the REG file -
as it has been written more than once.
Bye,
Freudi
ACloseCall32
What does this OLE fix actuall do? Does it reopen the hole? Is there
still a security issue after this patch?
Regards,
JRMIII
Ottmar Freudenberger
> What does this OLE fix actuall do?
It makes sure, that some registry entries available on non-effected
machines are beeing rewritten into the registry. On some machines
with certain, yet unknown configurations, installing KB896688 removes
some needed registry keys. Running AV software in the background while
installing KB896688 (like any update) _may_ cause this unwanted deletion
of these registry keys.
> Does it reopen the hole?
No.
> Is there still a security issue after this patch?
No.
Bye,
Freudi
PA Bear
You can lead a whore to culture...
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~PAŞ
kjames
to normal. I am also going to follow the advise of not continuing to receive
the automatic updated from MS. I will download the files I want one at a time
from the MS Updates Website. Thank again for everyones help!
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
"kjames" <kja...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you for the advise. I downloaded the OLEfix.zip and everything is back
> to normal.
You took this advice.. and it solved your problem.
> I am also going to follow the advise of not continuing to receive
> the automatic updated from MS. I will download the files I want one at a
> time
> from the MS Updates Website.
So take this advice..... Do not shut off Automatic Updates. Just go to Control
Panel |Automatic Updates (or My Computer | Properties | Automatic Updates) and
reset Automatic Updates to use "Option #3", which will auto download the
updates for you, but allow you to choose which updates are installed, and when
they are installed. The very same "Express|Custom" dialog box that is
presented by Windows Update, will also be presented by Automatic Updates when
you use this option of AU.
As for the idea of "installing one-at-a-time".. that /is/ the "Best Practice"
recommended by the industry, so I commend you for making that choice.
accursed B
about todays announcement on "Marketplace," a program on NPRadio. I only
heard the tail end of it, but it was about a new flaw in microsoft operating
system that will probably allow viruses and all manner of bad things to
affect our computers. They are frantically working on a patch, but that is
all I know. Do you know about this?
Thanks, JB
--
JB
PA Bear
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security/browse_frm/thread/e5b8bf711ef451da/5310f8a4268ac0d1#5310f8a4268ac0d1
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
accursed B wrote:
> Hi, I'm not sure if you will know the answer, but here goes. I'm worried
> about todays announcement on "Marketplace," a program on NPRadio. I only
> heard the tail end of it, but it was about a new flaw in microsoft
> operating system that will probably allow viruses and all manner of bad
> things to affect our computers. They are frantically working on a patch,
> but that is all I know. Do you know about this?
> Thanks, JB
>
PA Bear
and the guy who's soundbite they used has a big ol' chip on his shoulder.
missy no clue
Please help, my computer is having a nervous breakdown after downloading
KB896688 (MS05-052). Active X is not working, I keep getting errors, shut
downs, black, blue screens,crashes and freezes! Nothing is working right ,so
how do I fix it?
"Lawrence Garvin [MVP]" wrote:
> "kgstrong" <kgst...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OuGRCb...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
PA Bear [MS MVP]
To avoid confusion, please begin a new thread about your specific problems.
State your IE version and full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP2)
in your first post.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
missy no clue wrote:
> Please help, my computer is having a nervous breakdown after downloading
> KB896688 (MS05-052). Active X is not working, I keep getting errors, shut
> downs, black, blue screens,crashes and freezes! Nothing is working right
> ,so how do I fix it?
<snip posts in hijacked thread>