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"Corday" <10Sw...@net.net> wrote in message
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> Corday:
> They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.
What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a
surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x
customers well in advance of this change.
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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant.
People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is
business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods.
Very sad, I must say. <H>.
> --
> Mike M
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"webster72n" <webst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista
partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing
Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security
Essentials on that OS with no problems.
As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June.
Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for
that one I could put MSE on there as well.
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Joan Archer
http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher
"Noel Paton" <noeldp(spamless)@crashfixpc.co.uk> wrote in message
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my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine..
so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by..
Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can
telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a
pain anyway..
and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon
grease and the flavor comes right on through..
now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs
will make the hurt more bearable..
now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or
other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2
thumbs to count with anywho...
I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know
the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times,
when he wanted everybody to just trust him..
so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group..
Rocky T. Squirrel, esq.
Mountain Country USA
"Joan Archer" <arche...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Kissies, Joanie......from the other old broad!!
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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"RockyTSquirrel" <gafa@/nospam/usa.com> wrote in message
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> well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can
> handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper..
>
> my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine..
>
> so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by..
>
> Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can
> telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become
> a
> pain anyway..
>
> and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon
> grease and the flavor comes right on through..
>
> now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs
> will make the hurt more bearable..
>
> now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or
> other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2
> thumbs to count with anywho...
>
> I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you
> know
> the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times,
> when he wanted everybody to just trust him..
>
> so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say
>
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group..
That's the spirit, Rocky.
Allow me to thankfully return those merry and happy wishes for Christmas and
the New Year. Make sure to listen to the doctor about the virus treatment
and not overdo it.
Take care,
Harry.
Best wishes to all from here, too.
Mart
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"webster72n" <webst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'll return the wishes and say to all who still come and visit now and then
A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
Love to you all.
--
Joan Archer
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"Joan Archer" <arche...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Noel Paton" wrote:
> .
>
That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll miss.
As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64
I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit
other than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result from
application and os bloat. :-)
--
Mike M
Shane
Mike M wrote:
>> Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
>> avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.
>
> That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll
> miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64
> and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit
> rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory
> demands that result from application and os bloat. :-)
>
NT NOD32 v2 can be easily run as a standalone scanner, for instance on
BartPE and thumbdrives, though nod32.exe, amon.sys et al haven't been
updated since last Feb though the defs still are. Not sure if the
implication is they're no longer providing program updates for v2.7 but no
reason yet to assume that is the case.
I guess that users who keep running Me will want to avoid the outlay on a
more recent machine. In which case paying for AV while not ideal is
certainly the cheaper alternative. The point being that just because the
free ones will no longer support 9x, doesn't mean no AV will.
AB
Noel Paton wrote:
> It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
> I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic
> rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of
> coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has
> to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with
> such different OS's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting
> smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply
> replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the
> limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some
> time ago - and Avast should be
> thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as
> penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect
> that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe
> earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end
> completely -
> both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the
> bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines
> here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this
> process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes
> bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported.
> We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability
> in some Win7 versions.
>
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs
"Tarquin T. Shuttlecock" <jacobdd...@yeahmyarse.bot> wrote in message
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Until very recently heading Ubuntu. That or it was just a dream!
Merry Xmas Figgsy!
XX
Shane
There're one or two footballers called Figueroa over here these days.
Probably no relation though, eh?
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a long time
now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe, since I turned up
here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I now that Sonny and Cher just
started going on about 'The Beat', going on. La de da de dee. It's like they
say about our 'bobbies', when you want a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn my
advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.
Harry.
"Tarquin T. Shuttlecock" <jacobdd...@yeahmyarse.bot> wrote in message
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Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).
Merry Xmas to you either way.
Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing that led me
back here today in fact!
Morgan
--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!
I will try and answer the pertinent points.....but glad to see you back. My
computer went nuts on me today cuz either a) I changed the batteries in my
wireless keyboard, or b) Rogers was fixing a problem from their end, but it
sure was a rather bizarre experience. Flying OE's and IE's, if I tried to
type, it did the same letter (zoom) across the page, crashed, went into Safe
Mode, and I believe I saw a tear or two dripping down the monitor. (G)
Using an old MS keyboard here, but at least there are letters on it. For
some odd reason, I wear them off. (quiet, you lot!!)
Ron is not blind, but he is flippin' deaf when it comes to my voice, grin.
And she of the slim hips arrived on Wed. morning for 2 weeks, so we have
been shopping, natch. Jewellery design is next on the list. Sadly, we lost
Casey on Sept. 28th to cancer. It took me a long time to get over losing
that silly puss!! I never realized how much I adored him. He was my
baby...............Ron's too. We still expect him to amble around the
corner looking for treats. How is Rosie?? Is she still with you?
Off to go eat some brownies that slim hips made. Guess they won't be all
that slim from here on in, lol. She made out a list of what she wanted for
supper each night and actually that is a good idea. Takes the guesswork out
of "what shall we have for supper tonight".
All the best and glad to see you back on here. We should meet up once a
month or some such and keep the old group going.
XX Figgs
"Tarquin T. Shuttlecock" <jacobdd...@yeahmyarse.bot> wrote in message
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"Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke" <morg...@uglyuseraccounts.net> wrote in
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Joan Archer wrote:
> Neither is Noel you numpty <g>
>
>
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"Noel Paton" <noeldp(spamless)@crashfixpc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Lordy, is that "Bow Bells"???? We have allowed the odd (emphasis on
> ODD) Cockney into this country, but no one can understand them, so
> they are sent to night school to learn English as a Second
> Language...............ROFL!!!!!
There's often confusion about what is a Cockney. "Technically" to be a
Cockney one has to be born "within the sound of Bow Bells", however the Bow
Bells are those of St Mary le Bow in Cheapside which is not in Bow nor in
the east end of London but instead quite near to St Pauls in the City
although today many think that being born in the east end of London means
that they are a cockney. As it happens both of my parents were born in the
London Borough of Holborn less than a mile from St Mary Le Bow (not that
they met until nearly 30 years later and many miles from Holborn) so
technically both were cockneys however neither spoke with either a cockney
or east end accent.
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Mike
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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Somewhat confusing to an outsider but, nevertheless, believable <g>.
> --
> Mike
>
Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the Mandarin
Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast?? It is always
Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all as well.
Hugs.........Heather and Ron
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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God Save The Queen, what -ho....
"Heather" <fer...@canada.invalid> wrote in message
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Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How about
sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?
Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are reading
this.
--
Mike
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Where's the problem? Within the sound of Bow Bells is correct. The only
> confusion is to where those bells are located with their actual location
> being the church of St Mary Le Bow in the city rather than in the district
> known as Bow which is 5km to the east and in what is thought of as the
> east end. I'm sure that on a still day in the 19th Century before noisy
> traffic and aircraft came to plague our lives it was quite possible to
> hear the sound of Bow Bells when in Bow, that is of course, assuming that
> one could distinguish them from all of the other church bells that then
> existed.
>
> Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How about
> sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?
>
> Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are reading
> this.
Thanks, Mike. I think to have the picture in focus now, about the 'Bow
Bells' I mean, and best wishes to you also.
Harry.
Chuckle!! The shrimp were huge and the crablegs were very sweet.....yummy!!
The Mandarin is one of the best and most well-known Chinese Buffet in Canada
and it started right here in Brampton. We love it!! Won ton
soup.........salads......and they even have "flan" but over here it is
called "creme caramel". Strawberries dipped in
chocolate.........Sigh...........gained a pound or two.
Tonight is a medium rare T-Bone roast of beef with onions and potatoes
around it. Those two are having brussel sprouts (double
yuck)..........hungry again?? See, you have to fly over for a week or so to
have a taste. And a Tim Hortons donut, lol. The national food of
Canada.....forget maple syrup.
Elayne sends her best back to you all and she is in the basement helping her
dad set up shelving and is also tackling my jewellery making room so she can
find room to sit down. (G) It was my dining room, but no longer.
Big hugs from all..........Ron, Heather & the Mouse
Ha! Wish I could say supporting Tottenham was one of them. But then I also
wish I hadn't eaten so many mince pies tonight, so it just goes to show,
really. If wishes were horses, mine would win the National.
Still quiet here then. See I'm posting from WinMe (VM) just to show some
solidarity (but so much for Cool Type)? Elsewhere people are still
rubbishing Me as a great big FAIL, but it is still the only pre-XP version I
actually don't mind running.
So, is that a Catherine Tate reference? I don't think she does anything any
more like the one where she's dumping her boyfriend (Mark Heap) for a
temporary traffic light. Shame.
Of is it because you know I'm a Chelsea supporter of a certain age?
> Living in Wales maybe......
:-)
By which I mean (at a push) how most of my mates when I was a nipper in
Basingstoke, were also from London, and pretty much every last one of us
claimed to be a Cockney at some point, though I don't recall a single one of
us being from that way. For a while I thought I was from the Sarf, though
really I'm from the West - which was of course one of the posher parts
before I was born.
Just trying to remember the rhyme. Oranges and Lemons and a partridge, in a
pear tree; Christ I don't know! said the great bell of Bow; So are you rich,
said the grasping old bitch. Something like that. It is a long time since I
heard it though so I wouldn't swear to anything.
Mike M wrote:
> Where's the problem? Within the sound of Bow Bells is correct. The
> only confusion is to where those bells are located with their actual
> location being the church of St Mary Le Bow in the city rather than
> in the district known as Bow which is 5km to the east and in what is
> thought of as the east end. I'm sure that on a still day in the 19th
> Century before noisy traffic and aircraft came to plague our lives it
> was quite possible to hear the sound of Bow Bells when in Bow, that
> is of course, assuming that one could distinguish them from all of
> the other church bells that then existed.
>
> Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How
> about sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?
>
> Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are
> reading this.
>
I've got a Lenovo. Not that I'd get another - and as I confirmed to Joan
months ago I'll almost certainly build the next one myself. Anyway, I
finally got so fed up with the Lenovo/IBM USB keyboard I ripped it out of
the workstation and smashed it repeatedly on the floor. That's Lenovo/IBM
hardware for you! Then I dug out the cheapo Chinese PS2 keyboard that came
with the previous - WinMe - computer and instantly I had the responsiveness
back that had been driving me slowly up the wall the last two years! So
basically I'm using a ten year old keyboard here and it's just fine! A bit
like the really old Sony Trintron TV. It must be 20 years old and it works
just fine and I feel like if I replaced it with a widescreen LCD job I'd be
such an ingrate and the very least I should do is give it to a museum where
it'll be used daily.
>
> Ron is not blind, but he is flippin' deaf when it comes to my voice,
> grin. And she of the slim hips arrived on Wed. morning for 2 weeks,
> so we have been shopping, natch. Jewellery design is next on the
> list. Sadly, we lost Casey on Sept. 28th to cancer. It took me a
> long time to get over losing that silly puss!! I never realized how
> much I adored him. He was my baby...............Ron's too. We still
> expect him to amble around the corner looking for treats. How is
> Rosie?? Is she still with you?
>
Well, glad to hear Ron is sound as a Bow bell, but sad to hear about Casey.
Perhaps you'd better get another so I can send some more mice over. Though
with our increasingly fascist government, I'd probably go to prison for it.
Yes, Rosie's fine. Only problem with her is it is approaching 3am and I'm
beginning to desperately want to get to bed, but any moment now she'll arise
from her igloo-thing and want to go out. Mind you its my fault for still
being up at this time. At least she doesn't stay out long in this cold,
though I gather as ever you've got it worse than we have!
> Off to go eat some brownies that slim hips made. Guess they won't be
> all that slim from here on in, lol. She made out a list of what she
> wanted for supper each night and actually that is a good idea. Takes
> the guesswork out of "what shall we have for supper tonight".
>
You know, that's what I would want to do but resist doing because I'd figure
you'd think I was a bit strange. Which is itself a bit strange, isn't it. I
cook dinner and the moment it's gone try to figure out what to do tomorrow.
Sometimes I worry myself (I'm serious!).
I'm going to have to go to town and get linguini and a particular Aussie
white!
I must figure out what goes well with Jack Daniels (as an ingredient).
I made mince pies earlier. I'm getting quite good at pastry lately! I ate
nine of them before they were cool.
> All the best and glad to see you back on here. We should meet up
> once a month or some such and keep the old group going.
Glad to see you again too Figgs! But as for coming back monthly: I'd have to
be reliable, wouldn't I? Can't see it, myself!
>
> XX Figgs
I'll see your XX and raise you X!
Shane
> and instantly I had the responsiveness back *the absense of which* had
Just to explain about that, as it looks a bit insensitive. You know Rosie
was my fourth cat in four years and the first in that time I didn't have
euthanased! Along the way I came to the conclusion that the only thing you
can do is honour their species by going to a shelter and adopting another.
I'd have put it less coldly if I were more awake!
Shane
Night........and best for the holidays........the 3 Figgs
"Shane" <lad...@blahdeblah.zap> wrote in message
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> Noel Paton wrote:
>> Oi! - Wotcher mate!!
>> I'll get the lads onter yer!
>> ...... nah - can't be bovvered.......
>> I might have many problems, but being welsh is not one of them :)
>
> Ha! Wish I could say supporting Tottenham was one of them. But then I also
> wish I hadn't eaten so many mince pies tonight, so it just goes to show,
> really. If wishes were horses, mine would win the National.
>
<snip>
> Of is it because you know I'm a Chelsea supporter of a certain age?
>
>
It could be worse - you could be an Arsenal supporter! <ptui!>
I think *we* get to understand them more with each passing year and they us,
so after half a lifetime or more of having cats we've almost crossed the
communication divide and the only thing stopping it is *they* don't have
long enough. If they lived as long as us we'd be having quite complex
conversations with them by the end. As it is we get just the hint of what
could be if things weren't quite as they are.
That would be bad on so many levels!