Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

WindowsCE Upgrade for the HP 320LX

82 views
Skip to first unread message

Willy van Knippenberg

unread,
Jan 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/3/98
to

When will the FREE WindowsCE 2.0 CD_ROM be available?
What is the great advantage for using WindowsCE 2.0 and how much memory will I loose?

t...@gte.net

unread,
Jan 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/4/98
to

Willy van Knippenberg <the...@worldonline.nl> wrote:

>When will the FREE WindowsCE 2.0 CD_ROM be available?
>What is the great advantage for using WindowsCE 2.0 and how much memory will I loose?

It's supposed to be available now, and since the apps are in ROM, you
shouldn't loas any memory.


Will Goss

unread,
Jan 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/4/98
to

I received my free upgrade 2 days ago. If installed easily, after which I
reinstalled the entertainment pack. I tried to install paint from the power
toys but it would not run. I installed cascading menus also which did work.
The operating system does seem to take a larger portion of the used for
running programs. I would guess that I can't have as many applications
open.
My overall impression is that the upgrade does not change much. There are a
few improvements such as spell checker, month at a glance etc that make the
upgrade worthwhile.

Willy van Knippenberg wrote in message <68m7f3$184$2...@news.worldonline.nl>...

Robert L. Haar

unread,
Jan 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/4/98
to

Willy van Knippenberg wrote in message <68m7f3$184$2...@news.worldonline.nl>...
>When will the FREE WindowsCE 2.0 CD_ROM be available?

It is available and shipping now. I bought my 320LX a few days after the
free upgrade
was announced and sent in the upgrade request immediately. I got my upgrade
kit about two weeks ago.

>What is the great advantage for using WindowsCE 2.0 and how much memory
will I loose?

There are a number of small improvements - better syncing, month-at-a-glance
calendar
display, spell check in WORD, a Pocket PowerPoint app, table support in
Pocket IE, etc.
The GUI is closer to Win95 and seems to run a bit faster.

One big reason to upgrade IMO is that new software that comes out will be
designed
for the CE v2 environment and might not even run under v1.

The upgrade was straightforward although a bit tedious (full backup &
restore and re-syncing,
loading the host software, and so on). Since the CE system software and
built-in apps
all reside in ROM, you don't lose memory for the upgrade.


Robert Haar email: rh...@rust.net

Jeff McLeman

unread,
Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
to

On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 09:59:22 -0500, "Will Goss" <wg...@cobweb.net>
scribbled:

>I received my free upgrade 2 days ago. If installed easily, after which I
>reinstalled the entertainment pack. I tried to install paint from the power
>toys but it would not run. I installed cascading menus also which did work.
>The operating system does seem to take a larger portion of the used for
>running programs. I would guess that I can't have as many applications
>open.
>My overall impression is that the upgrade does not change much. There are a
>few improvements such as spell checker, month at a glance etc that make the
>upgrade worthwhile.
>

>Willy van Knippenberg wrote in message <68m7f3$184$2...@news.worldonline.nl>...
>>When will the FREE WindowsCE 2.0 CD_ROM be available?

>>What is the great advantage for using WindowsCE 2.0 and how much memory
>will I loose?
>>
>
>

Since V2.0 has cascading menus built into the shell (eg: Start
button), you don't need the power tools version.

Jeff


Fran McHugh

unread,
Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
to

I received my upgrade on Jan 2 and installed it in about 1 minute. (it
would have been faster, but the instructions said to wait 30-40 seconds
after battery removal). Not earth-shattering, but printing directly from
excel, word, calendar,etc. and improved features in the built-in software
are well worth the trouble!
Fran

yuppie

unread,
Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
to

Most of the software for CE 1.0 does not work on CE 2.0. It might even used
up extra memory if you do a backup & restore. Try upgrading to CE 2.0 and
then copy files needed instead. My Mobile Form does not work in CE 2.0,
however with the sort function added in exel, I would not need the software
anymore.

HHollick

unread,
Jan 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/7/98
to

This is an interesting comment. I was one of the Beta testers for
WinCe 2.0. One of the things they stressed to us testers was to try
all of our 1.0 software on 2.0. The developers said that 1.0
compatibility was important. All of the software that I had during the
beta test period worked fine under 2.0. I cannot recall any
significant problems from the beta test news group about
incompatibility problems.

Have you contacted MobileSoft (or whoever it is that developed Mobile
Forms)? I would bet that they claim Mobile Forms works in 2.0

Heather

Todd Ignasiak

unread,
Jan 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/7/98
to

In article <34b24...@shaggy.cybertrails.com>,

"Fran McHugh" <fmc...@cybertrails.com> writes:
> I received my upgrade on Jan 2 and installed it in about 1 minute. (it
> would have been faster, but the instructions said to wait 30-40 seconds
> after battery removal). Not earth-shattering, but printing directly from
> excel, word, calendar,etc. and improved features in the built-in software
> are well worth the trouble!

Can anyone post some more detail on the new capabilities? The
320LX with CE 1.0 was heavily advertised to support IR printing.
But, as with many features, I was very disappointed in the
limited, almost useless, printing capabilities.

Also, with CE 1.0 the system slowed to an absolute crawl after
installing a few programs. I talked to HP support, and it
seemed to be related to the number of files in /windows. Their
reccomendation was to clear the system & start over (don't
install those darn programs).. I'm wondering if this issue
has been addressed. Or, will 2.0 add more overhead and make
my already poor 320LX even worse? As you might guess, I'm not
excited about throwing another $100 at this system unless it
makes it usable.

-tji
-Opinions expressed above are mine, not my employers.

Henk Eggens

unread,
Jan 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/7/98
to
Willy van Knippenberg wrote:

> When will the FREE WindowsCE 2.0 CD_ROM be available?
> What is the great advantage for using WindowsCE 2.0 and how much memory will I loose?

The HP-Amsterdam office told me today they started shipping WinCE 2.0 to those entitled
to a free upgrade (for the HP 320 LX) for the coming two months.

vcard.vcf

R.M. Vis

unread,
Jan 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/8/98
to

Does CE 2.0 run on the HP 300 LX which comes with only 2 Megs of RAM? How
much memory is available when NO program is running (i.e. CE 2.0 is the only
running app)?
My CE vendor is telling me only 300 Kb will be available for storing /
running apps, so it won't run. Is this true?

Robert Vis
rm...@dds.nl

Bob Crowley

unread,
Jan 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/8/98
to

That is about right. When my HP620LX is standing idle, it
uses about 1Mb of system ram. When connected to my PC, with
inbox running, it uses about 1.9Mb of system RAM. I believe
that they recommend a minimum of 8Mb RAM.

Rich Nardone

unread,
Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
to

Are you still using the HP320LX with the 2.0 upgrade?
If so.... How's the performance. I'm cautious because of the usual
increased horsepower needs when moving to a new version of a MS operating
system.
Have you noticed a slowdown in the speed of the machine? Am I forgoing and
features of CE2.0 that won't work with the upgrade?

Any info would be helpful.

If you could respond via email, I'd appreciate it. RANA...@sprynet.delete
thisword

Regards,
Rich Nardone

HHollick wrote in message <34b915e7...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...

David G. Goggin

unread,
Jan 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/15/98
to

Todd,

A more likely source of the slowdown is the crap that CE1.0
stores in the registry. Check out the program at the following url:

http://www.mindspring.com/~drmscape/delhosts/index.htm

It turns out CE1.0 stored a list of recent doc's and every url
visited in the registry. After a while, my HP320LX slowed a lot, too,
especially the mail program and web browsing. After running Akiva
Atwood's utility, speed was way up!

I e-mailed Akiva a month or so ago about whether the same
problems were going to happen in CE2.0. He didn't know then. I'll check
again.

BTW, I've heard from others that CE2.0 runs fine on a 4MB
HP320LX, with either about the same speed or a slight improvement.

--
David G. Goggin
-- gog...@gte.net

--
David G. Goggin
-- gog...@gte.net

0 new messages