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daniel

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Jun 24, 2008, 8:41:01 PM6/24/08
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hi?
I'm trying to use the device emulator armv4i bsp for windows ce 5.0.
I built a os image based on the arm emulator bsp but I failed to run the os.
After build the os, I set the 'connectivity option --> download' to
'emulator' and transport to emulator. From the included document, there is
written as 'device emulator', but in my pb's download menu, there is just
'emulator' so I set to emulator for download and transport route.
As soon as I run the 'attach device', there happened some error pop up
windows saying lack of ram and network device error and it is all.
Is there any body who successfully run the arm based emulator from ce 5.0?

Joel Winarske

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Jun 24, 2008, 8:53:27 PM6/24/08
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I believe downloading to emulator in PB5 is for x86 emulator only.

I built OS image to connect to and debug with VS2005. After building
OS image, create SDK, and install SDK. It will show up as a
deployable target in VS2005.

After launched you can dock device via right click in emulator manager
and access device via ActiveSync DMA mode.

Be sure to follow the document closely.

I have not tried with VS2008, but it should work identically for that
as well.


Joel

daniel

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Jun 24, 2008, 9:17:00 PM6/24/08
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I downloaded the arm based device emulator for ce 5.0 from microsoft site.
And I remember some document describes shortly about setting platform
builder for downloading the arm based device emulator.
So I believe I can use the arm emulator as well as x86 emulator.
but... it doesn't work as my belief....

Joel Winarske

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Jun 24, 2008, 10:31:49 PM6/24/08
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Are you talking about this document?

\WINCE500\PLATFORM\Deviceemulator\Using the CE DeviceEmulator.doc

Joel

> > > Is there any body who successfully run the arm based emulator from ce 5.0?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

daniel

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Jun 24, 2008, 10:50:00 PM6/24/08
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I also saw the document. but it seems to describe to use vs2005 for launching
os with app.
But in any other document, I don't remember, I saw pb also can download and
launch the emulator. Isn't it possible?


"Joel Winarske" wrote:

> Are you talking about this document?
>
> \WINCE500\PLATFORM\Deviceemulator\Using the CE DeviceEmulator.doc
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> On Jun 24, 6:17 pm, daniel <dan...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > I downloaded the arm based device emulator for ce 5.0 from microsoft site..

Chris Tacke, MVP

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Jun 24, 2008, 11:03:17 PM6/24/08
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You need the BSP:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=474b03a6-e87d-455d-bc16-b8cf18ef39b4&displaylang=en

-Chris


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daniel

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Jun 24, 2008, 11:29:03 PM6/24/08
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thanks for your interest.
Now I'm trying using the BSP you said. The nk.bin is created but I can't
download it from platform builder. it is the problem.
Have you ever launch the os from platform builder?

Chris Tacke, MVP

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Jun 24, 2008, 11:58:55 PM6/24/08
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And you have DMA set up for it?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa935286.aspx

Yes, I've done it, so I know it works.

-Chris

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daniel

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Jun 25, 2008, 12:10:00 AM6/25/08
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you saying one is ce 6.0 based.
I'm working on ce 5.0.

Joel Winarske

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Jun 25, 2008, 2:00:49 AM6/25/08
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Daniel,

As stated before I believe PB5 only supports x86 emulation. The PB5
help documentation is pretty clear on this. It is different for PB6
as it's a VS plugin, and VS offers a WinCE ARM emulator.

The image created with the Deviceemulator bsp is exported via the path
of an SDK. This OS image installed with the SDK then runs due to the
ARM emulator optionally installed with VS2005 or VS2008.

So if you install VS2005 (.NET 2.0) or VS2008 (.NET 3.5) with Smart
Development selected, all you would need to do is install the emulator
SDK, confirm device settings for emulator in VS, and you're good to
go. The trick is you need to include the proper .NET version in your
OS image depending on your development environment.

On Jun 24, 9:10 pm, daniel <dan...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> you saying one is ce 6.0 based.
> I'm working on ce 5.0.
>
>
>
> "Chris Tacke, MVP" wrote:
> > And you have DMA set up for it?
>
> >http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa935286.aspx
>
> > Yes, I've done it, so I know it works.
>
> > -Chris
>
> > "daniel" <dan...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:3CC6DF60-370F-43CB...@microsoft.com...
> > > thanks for your interest.
> > > Now I'm trying using the BSP you said. The nk.bin is created but I can't
> > > download it from platform builder. it is the problem.
> > > Have you ever launch the os from platform builder?
>
> > > "Chris Tacke, MVP" wrote:
>
> > >> You need the BSP:
>

> > >>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=474b03a6-e87...

> > >> >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Bonne Zwaga

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Jul 4, 2008, 11:09:56 AM7/4/08
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Daniel

Check article of BarryBo
http://blogs.msdn.com/barrybo/archive/2006/03/15/552045.aspx

Starting emulator directly using the emulator option in the Connectivity
Options dialog from platform builder is not possible.
You have to start it manually with for example a batch file.
Then you can download and debug an emulator image with PB 5.0 the same way
as you would use on an ethernet hardware target.

Regards

Bonne Zwaga


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Jyotiranjan R

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Dec 22, 2010, 1:51:25 PM12/22/10
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Install Windows Virtual PC 2007.You will be able to do it. :)

> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:41 PM danie wrote:

> hi?
> I'm trying to use the device emulator armv4i bsp for windows ce 5.0.
> I built a os image based on the arm emulator bsp but I failed to run the os.
> After build the os, I set the 'connectivity option --> download' to
> 'emulator' and transport to emulator. From the included document, there is
> written as 'device emulator', but in my pb's download menu, there is just
> 'emulator' so I set to emulator for download and transport route.
> As soon as I run the 'attach device', there happened some error pop up
> windows saying lack of ram and network device error and it is all.
> Is there any body who successfully run the arm based emulator from ce 5.0?


>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:17 PM danie wrote:

>> I downloaded the arm based device emulator for ce 5.0 from microsoft site.

>> And I remember some document describes shortly about setting platform
>> builder for downloading the arm based device emulator.
>> So I believe I can use the arm emulator as well as x86 emulator.
>> but... it doesn't work as my belief....
>>
>>
>> "Joel Winarske" wrote:


>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:50 PM danie wrote:

>>> I also saw the document. but it seems to describe to use vs2005 for launching
>>> os with app.
>>> But in any other document, I don't remember, I saw pb also can download and
>>> launch the emulator. Isn't it possible?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joel Winarske" wrote:


>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:03 PM Chris Tacke, MVP wrote:


>>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:29 PM danie wrote:

>>>>> thanks for your interest.
>>>>> Now I'm trying using the BSP you said. The nk.bin is created but I can't
>>>>> download it from platform builder. it is the problem.
>>>>> Have you ever launch the os from platform builder?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Chris Tacke, MVP" wrote:


>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:58 PM Chris Tacke, MVP wrote:

>>>>>> And you have DMA set up for it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa935286.aspx
>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yes, I have done it, so I know it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Chris


>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:10 AM danie wrote:

>>>>>>> you saying one is ce 6.0 based.

>>>>>>> I am working on ce 5.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Chris Tacke, MVP" wrote:


>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:13 AM Joel Winarske wrote:

>>>>>>>> I believe downloading to emulator in PB5 is for x86 emulator only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I built OS image to connect to and debug with VS2005. After building
>>>>>>>> OS image, create SDK, and install SDK. It will show up as a
>>>>>>>> deployable target in VS2005.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After launched you can dock device via right click in emulator manager
>>>>>>>> and access device via ActiveSync DMA mode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be sure to follow the document closely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have not tried with VS2008, but it should work identically for that
>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 5:41=A0pm, daniel <dan...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> os.
>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>> ?


>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:13 AM Joel Winarske wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Are you talking about this document?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> \WINCE500\PLATFORM\Deviceemulator\Using the CE DeviceEmulator.doc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> the os.
>>>>>>>>> re is
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> p


>>>>>>>>> 5.0?- Hide quoted text -


>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:13 AM Joel Winarske wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As stated before I believe PB5 only supports x86 emulation. The PB5
>>>>>>>>>> help documentation is pretty clear on this. It is different for PB6
>>>>>>>>>> as it's a VS plugin, and VS offers a WinCE ARM emulator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The image created with the Deviceemulator bsp is exported via the path
>>>>>>>>>> of an SDK. This OS image installed with the SDK then runs due to the
>>>>>>>>>> ARM emulator optionally installed with VS2005 or VS2008.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if you install VS2005 (.NET 2.0) or VS2008 (.NET 3.5) with Smart
>>>>>>>>>> Development selected, all you would need to do is install the emulator
>>>>>>>>>> SDK, confirm device settings for emulator in VS, and you're good to
>>>>>>>>>> go. The trick is you need to include the proper .NET version in your
>>>>>>>>>> OS image depending on your development environment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 9:10=A0pm, daniel <dan...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 't
>>>>>>>>>> 7...
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>>>>>>>>>>> Submitted via EggHeadCafe
>>>>>>>>>>> Oracle Developer For Beginners
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/training-topic-area/Oracle-SQL-Developer/2/Oracle-SQL-Samples.aspx

Jyotiranjan R

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Dec 22, 2010, 1:52:28 PM12/22/10
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Insatll Virtual PC 2007.

> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:41 PM danie wrote:

> hi?
> I'm trying to use the device emulator armv4i bsp for windows ce 5.0.
> I built a os image based on the arm emulator bsp but I failed to run the os.
> After build the os, I set the 'connectivity option --> download' to
> 'emulator' and transport to emulator. From the included document, there is
> written as 'device emulator', but in my pb's download menu, there is just
> 'emulator' so I set to emulator for download and transport route.
> As soon as I run the 'attach device', there happened some error pop up
> windows saying lack of ram and network device error and it is all.

> Is there any body who successfully run the arm based emulator from ce 5.0?


>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:17 PM danie wrote:

>> I downloaded the arm based device emulator for ce 5.0 from microsoft site.

>> And I remember some document describes shortly about setting platform
>> builder for downloading the arm based device emulator.
>> So I believe I can use the arm emulator as well as x86 emulator.
>> but... it doesn't work as my belief....
>>
>>
>> "Joel Winarske" wrote:


>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:50 PM danie wrote:

>>> I also saw the document. but it seems to describe to use vs2005 for launching
>>> os with app.
>>> But in any other document, I don't remember, I saw pb also can download and
>>> launch the emulator. Isn't it possible?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joel Winarske" wrote:


>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:03 PM Chris Tacke, MVP wrote:

>>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:29 PM danie wrote:

>>>>> thanks for your interest.
>>>>> Now I'm trying using the BSP you said. The nk.bin is created but I can't
>>>>> download it from platform builder. it is the problem.
>>>>> Have you ever launch the os from platform builder?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Chris Tacke, MVP" wrote:


>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:58 PM Chris Tacke, MVP wrote:

>>>>>> And you have DMA set up for it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa935286.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I have done it, so I know it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Chris


>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:10 AM danie wrote:

>>>>>>> you saying one is ce 6.0 based.
>>>>>>> I am working on ce 5.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Chris Tacke, MVP" wrote:


>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:13 AM Joel Winarske wrote:

>>>>>>>> I believe downloading to emulator in PB5 is for x86 emulator only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I built OS image to connect to and debug with VS2005. After building
>>>>>>>> OS image, create SDK, and install SDK. It will show up as a
>>>>>>>> deployable target in VS2005.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After launched you can dock device via right click in emulator manager
>>>>>>>> and access device via ActiveSync DMA mode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be sure to follow the document closely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have not tried with VS2008, but it should work identically for that
>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 5:41=A0pm, daniel <dan...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> os.
>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>> ?


>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:13 AM Joel Winarske wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Are you talking about this document?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> \WINCE500\PLATFORM\Deviceemulator\Using the CE DeviceEmulator.doc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> the os.
>>>>>>>>> re is
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> p

>>>>>>>>> 5.0?- Hide quoted text -


>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:50 PM Jyotiranjan R wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Install Windows Virtual PC 2007.You will be able to do it. :)


>>>>>>>>>>>> Submitted via EggHeadCafe
>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft SQL Server DBA For Beginners
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/training-topic-area/SQL-Server-DBA/6/SQL-Server-DBA.aspx

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