Wordpad doesn't startup (wince 6.0)

[JP_DTS]

Hi!
I built an image (NK.BIN for vortex86, wince 6.0), but, when I modified the
registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls\overrides]
"IMsur"=dword:00000000
"SThsn"="."
"SDeci"=","
the wordpad app doesn't startup anymore, it seems wordpad has some
incompatibility type

Someone knows any solution?
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JP

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

Get the serial debug messages from a DEBUG build of the OS. That will give
some useful information and might even tell you what's wrong and what to do
about it.

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

Paul, I built a DEBUG version but when I try to startup the wordpad app
doesn't show me any message (double click and nothing happens). Maybe I have
wrong my build options ("enable eboot space in memory", "enable KITL" and
"enable kernel debugger" are checked).

Thanks

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JP

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

It doesn't show *any* message? Not Loading module "wordpad.exe" or
something like that? Can you run any program? Try launching it with the
's' command from the PB shell window.

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

the others programs run without problem, only the wordpad.exe doesn't open
when I change the regional settings ("," decimal,"." miles,"metric"
measurement), if I keep the default regional settings ("." decimal,","
miles,"US" measurement) works ok.

I execute the nk.bin on the vortex pc (not from my desktop pc), when windows
start I execute "pword.exe" from CMD but it doesn't open.

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

Yes, but, if you see what I'm wondering, I want to know if there are
suitable debug messages fired when you start those other programs. It's
possible, I guess, that Wordpad is set up to be localized and won't run
without the correct resource file for the locale running on the device. I
would expect to see some messages from the loader, in that case, however.

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

no debug messages when I start programs (I run media player and open without
debug message)

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

Then you don't have a real, full DEBUG OS there or you've set up your PC or
the device registry to turn off some debug zones that you actually want.
You should constantly be getting assaulted by "Loading this module" or
"Loading that module" messages.

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

mmm, I try to get a full DEBUG OS now (if you can help me it would be even
better).
I send to you the messages when I got them
thanks

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

Just switching the target in Platform Builder from RETAIL to DEBUG is the
primary step. Doing nothing but that results in the module load messages on
all of my devices, but, again, there could be a debugzones entry on your
development PC (or in the registry for your device), that sets up to not
generate those. I can't think of anything else...

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

thanks again Paul, I 'll check the debugzones information.

best regards

[JP_DTS]

Paul, I need help, I tried and tried to make a buid version but the messages
doesn't appear, and, when I try to run the project the console show the next:

PB Debugger Warning: Debugger service map is set to none. If your image
has debugging support it may not boot properly.
PB Debugger Warning: Debugger service map is set to none. If your image
has debugging support it may not boot properly.
PB Debugger Cannot initialize the Kernel Debugger.
PB Debugger Debugger could not initialize connection.
PB Debugger The Kernel Debugger is waiting to connect with target.
PB Debugger The Kernel Debugger has been disconnected successfully.

????
regards

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JP

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

It means just what it says, you've configured the Connectivity Options for
the Target such that it's not expecting to do anything. You need to set the
Transport to something that makes sense for your board and connection to
Platform Builder and you need to set the debugger to KdStub. If you are
going to download the nk.bin image over this link from Platform Builder, you
need to set that up, too; if the image is already on the device, you can
leave the download option set to None. For the Transport, you'll also need
to configure the transport settings, depending on what transport you're
using.

I seem to remember steps in the getting started tutorials in the help
walking you through this. Have you look at the help?

Paul T.

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[Bruce Eitman [eMVP]]

Maybe that is more than he really needs to do. What Paul has been asking
for is debug output, that does not require KITL or the kernel debugger. You
can disable both, and get the serial debug output.

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[JP_DTS]

thanks, I made some how many tests and I discovered that...... when I change
the variable "SDeci = ," the wordpad dies.

I continue learning how create a debug nk.bin

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JP

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

Another thing you might try is forgetting about setting this in the registry
to begin with. If there's really a problem with that value (which I find
increasingly unlikely), then changing the decimal separator (which I presume
that does, despite it not be documented in that way in the help), from the
Control Panel should have the same effect. Does it?

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

thank you for the help

if I set in the registry...wordpad dies
if I don't set in the registry, but set from the control panel...wordpad
dies

so, I found an alternative solution, looking at internet I found a Notepad
application and I put it in nk.bin...works OK.

the notepad name is: frNotepad_12.cab

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

So WordPad dies *either way*? That suggests that something that you must
have in your OS for WordPad to run in the localized situation you have is
not present. This is a non-English OS? You've added any non-default code
pages or locales?

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

wordpad dies when I change Regional Settings (from registry or Control
Panel), the wordpad application is a module (component) form the platform
builder and the compatibility should be total (100%). Now I generate a
Project for Vega 86 (like vortex but better) and happens the same problem, I
think is a compatibility problem.

It's an english OS and the unique source that I added was the Touchkit
application (subproject) and some modifications in iesample source.

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

That's definitely one for the MS guys, then. There's no souce around that I
can recall for WordPad, so not much chance for us non-MS people to find or
fix the problem. It seems odd that this would have been missed in testing
but, unless there's something else going on with your OS configuration, that
seems to be what happened.

Paul T.

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[JP_DTS]

It seems to be an application problem (wordpad doesn't support spanish
notation), but I resolved replacing wordpad with notepad....!!!!

thanks all !!!