I have a Photosmart C6180 installed on my network. Under XP, everything
seems to work fine. However, on my Vista x64 machines, the printer and fax
seems to disappear when there are changes in the network status (for
example, resuming from suspend, and disabling and r-enabling the network
interfaces, even when the interfaces being changed does not connect to the
printer). I would get a Vista error saying that the HP Network Printer
Services has stopped responding and then after this happens, I have a very
good chance that the C6180 printer and fax will disappear from my list of
printers on the machine.
When this happens, the only way is to run the HP software (which I
downloaded from the web for Vista x64) and add a new printer from there.
Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
Many thanks.
PS. Called local HP and their tech support gave me the stupid response of
"We don't know. Maybe don't suspend your computer?". I have a laptop
running the software, idiot......
Thank you for using newsgroup!
From your post, please help us confirm the following questions so that we
can narrow down the issue:
1. HP Photosmart C6180 is attached to a Windows XP machine?
2. Does the issue only occur on this HP printer?
3. Does the issue only occur on Windows Vista x64 client?
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2. Only one HP printer on my machine. However, there is a fax server
(SBS2003) on the network and that does not suffer from such problem. Then
again, it doesn't need so much software to make it work in the first place.
3. I have only tried it on Vista x64 machines. I will try on a Vista x86
laptop next.
""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" <v-k...@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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So yes, it happens on both x64 and x86.
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Thank you for using newsgroup!
Please understand we have no this printer to make a test. Therefore, I am
not sure if the issue is related to the hardware device. I still recommend
you contact HP support to see if they have any information about this issue.
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So much for buying from Microsoft Partners.
""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" <v-k...@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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HP C5180 Printer connected to DLink DSL-G604T Wireless modem router
via Cat 5 cable. Vista Home Basic Laptop (Dell Inspiron 6400)
connected via Wireless.
Every couple of days the Printer Driver for the C5180 completely
dissappears from the laptop machine and needs to be re-installed.
Once the driver/software for the printer is re-installed everything
works fine for another couple of days, and then the same thing occurs.
I am continuing to troubleshoot this problem (much to the displeasure
of my client), but hope to find a solution soon, else something will
be thrown out the window. :)
One suggestion i have found on the web is to ensure the Printer is not
running with a DHCP assigned IP Address. I have just checked and
confirm that both the printer and the laptop are running with Static
IP Addresses, yet i still have the same problem. :(
Cheers
Surago.
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""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" <v-k...@online.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
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Just ridiculous!
And they claim that this is a Microsoft problem and we should contact
Microsoft......
My chat with an online HP tech:
Jerome: Hello Marshall.
Jerome: Welcome to HP Total care for All-in-one products. My name is Jerome.
How may I help you today?
Marshall Lai: I am running Vista x64 and x86 in my home and am having
problems with my HP c6180 software when resuming from sleep.
Marshall Lai: Seems that the HPSLPSVC keeps on causing DEP violations on
resume from S3.
Jerome: I will help you with this,please elaborate your issue, so that I can
assist you better?
Marshall Lai: HPSLPSVC causes a DEP violation in Vista (both x64 and x86)
when resuming from S3.
Marshall Lai: Typical event log:
Marshall Lai: Faulting application svchost.exe_HPSLPSVC, version
6.0.6000.16386, time stamp 0x4549b5f5, faulting module hpslpsvc64.dll,
version 82.0.173.0, time stamp 0x457ce186, exception code 0xc0000005, fault
offset 0x00000000000550ad, process id 0xc60, application start time
0x01c7b196eff7584c.
Marshall Lai: And this will cause the printer to disappear from the computer
and will have to be added back in via running the installation software
Jerome: I understan your concern.
Marshall Lai: I have searched on the web and seems that other people running
vista and have HP network printers on their network are experiencing the
same problem.
Jerome: Please give me few minutes so that I can go through the mssage.
Jerome: Let us perform few steps to disable DEP.
Jerome: Here arae the steps:
Jerome: Disable DEP in Vista:
1. Click Start
2. Click All Programs
3. Click Accessories
4. Right Click on Command Prompt
5. Left click on Run as Administrator
6. Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission
Jerome: Please perform the above steps and let me know I will provide you
further steps.
Marshall Lai: I really don't want to disable DEP globally in Vista.
Marshall Lai: One has to be crasy to do that. Also, in Vista x64, you cannot
disable DEP anyway.
Jerome: Marshall,I suggest you to contact Microsoft they will help you with
this.
Marshall Lai: Microsoft suggested me to contact HP as it is an HP service
that causes the DEP violation.
Jerome: Marshall if we disable the DEP it will be resolve.
Jerome: So I suggest you to disable the DEP by following the above steps.
Marshall Lai: It is like saying: The software has a problem with your
anti-virus software and you should disable your anti-virus software.
Marshall Lai: Will you be having a fix or will this be a requirement to
running your softwares?
"Surago" <sur...@sjones.co.nz> wrote in message
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Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Kathi
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print\Printers
Are the printers local devices targeting the network card on the printer or
are these connections to a machine sharing the printers.
When you install the inbox driver for this device, does it also get removed?
When you say HP detects that they are there, do you mean the printers? Do
you know what application is detecting the printers? If HP has software
that detects printers who knows what they might do if the printer is no
longer detected.
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"Kathi Johnston" <KathiJ...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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No I am going across the network to print. (I think that is what you mean),
I am not printing to the HP 7410 printer located ON another computer.
Not sure what you mean by inbox drivers.
What happens is I go to print, the printer is gone in my list of choices to
print to. I go through control panels to see if the printer is there. It's
not of course. When I go to reinstall the drivers, the HP software gives me
the option to either uninstall or add features. I have to uninstall before I
can then RE install the drivers.
I know it's not a network issue (then again I had a lot of trouble going
through Norton Anti Virus to get my XP machines and Vista Machine to talk and
share), because when I do reinstall the drivers the printer is immediately
detected
Thanks Alan!
Kathi
Does printmanagement.msc exist on your machine? If it does launch this and
see is the printer is listed? It sounds like you are using an XP driver.
HP does have a Vista driver for download for this device but the duplex
feature does not work as expected. HP gave me a fix for that.
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"Kathi Johnston" <KathiJ...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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printmanagement.msc is not resident anywhere on my machine that I can find
(I did an advanced search).
"mlai" <ml...@community.nospam> wrote in message
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"Kathi Johnston" <KathiJ...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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"Rob Baxmann" <rbax...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Have you any updates from HP after escalated your question?
Thanks & Regards,
Ken Zhao
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http://www.eggheadcafe.com
If anyone has found a solution (which I presume is currently a Vista
problem) please let me know. I am tired of my printer being gone everytime I
need it.
Good luck,
Mike
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Here's the link to those articles. Check at the bottom of the thread
for the instructions, and
Good luck,
Mike
'IT Resource Center forums - HP C6180 Problems'
(http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1091899&admit=-682735245+1185538377465+28353475)
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I'd love to try this. How do I find the computer management services? Do I
need to completely uninstall and reinstall the HP software (about an hour)?
Or is it somewhere I can access now?
Thanks!
-Lynn
Sorry the addr is so long it wouldn't insert the full url as a link so
just copy and paste the full addr for the full function software for
Vista. Hope it resolves other's problem too.
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Now instead of disappearing printers in my printers folder, I have one
or two extra copies of the printer. (If I get rid of one, it just
reinstalls itself. So I leave them all alone.) I just make sure the
one I have marked as the default printer stays marked as the default
printer, and that my preferred settings are designated there (such as
default print quality, etc.).
I don't know if this will help in other people's situation, if there is
more than one Vista computer attached to the network and using that
printer. I happen to have only an XP laptop attached to the network,
(besides the Vista computer that's now linked to the printer in two
ways). So I'm not sure if someone else would find the printer still
disappearing on a Vista computer that's not connected by usb to the
printer but is on the network.
With the problems this HP product has caused me, I'm quite unlikely to
ever purchase an HP again.
Mike E
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No, I am not a software analyst, whatever gave you that impression? I just
like to help people with print related issues
Sorry I don't know all the software that you installed on your machine with
the printer since I completely avoid vendor drivers since they can cause
problems.
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"guydel" <guy...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Thank you again yours truly Guy Delorme
So is that HP CUE software installed on your machine? Did you disable it?
If the software in not installed, did you uninstall the driver?
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"guydel" <guy...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I would like to see those DLL files so that i can do some research on
this issue.
Thanks,
Jasdev(binaryboyz)
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I will see if this suggestion works. I am debating returning the 6310 and
maybe trying something with network capabilities from Canon. I am a little
surprised with both MS and HP that a problem such as this (this thread
started five months ago) doesn't seem to have an official fix!
I have hounded HP and they number of incidents sent to MS probably goes over
100. I agree that it is very difficult to understand why both of these
companies just ignore this. Don't they care?
Anyway, any future small items such as scanner or printer that I buy WILL
NOT BE HP. This driver issues is not new to HP. I had two HP scanners that
I had to discard simply because HP would not update the drivers as the OSes
changed. My HP Color Laserjet seams to have good drivers and support.
I have had exceptionally good experience with the Epson scanner and photo
printer. They are on USB and not Ethernet but they work perfectly all the
time and NO driver isses and that includes Vist 64.
I am thinking of filing a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission about
these HP products not being suitable to etheir intended use. ALL complaints
are susposed to be answered.
The more who do that the more effect it will have.
HP support were very polite and suggested numerous things, most of which
didn't work. The only thing that seemed to work was to turn off the "CUE"
service as I mentioned in my previous post. That resulted in a working
(networked) printer, but left me with regular error messages which were
bothersome, but the printer worked. Now, today, although my printer shows
"ready" as a network device nothing prints. I have been working on it for
about two hours, including rebooting the computer, which curiously didn't
clear the print cue. I have just tried shutting off the Windows Print
Spooler service and turning it back on and then rebooting. For some reason,
I now have a working printer. Temporarily.
The joke is that this 2+ hour effort was merely to print address labels for
Xmas cards. This kind of time savings I don't need.
Sadly, the only folks reading this will have likely already purchased an HP
printer. If not, don't! If you can return yours, like I should have done, I
recommend you do so. Both HP and MS have known about this problem for at
least 6 months. I don't accept that they can't fix it, they are likely just
too embroiled in a pissing match over who should be responsible.
the HP support suggested me to disable both UAC and the Antivirus, you may
imagine how my reply was. I think HP produces high quality hardware, but
software should really improve: actually, I got the svchost.exe_HPSLPSVC
crash each time my notebook resumes or the assigned IP changes.
not to mention the scanner part of the HP 3210 is not present on Windows
Vista Scanner applet.
matro
"John H" <Jo...@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:68C1ABEF-E5B3-4E9F...@microsoft.com...
"mlai" wrote:
> This problem is related to a crash of the HPSLPSVC service which caused a
> DEP violation. HP is aware of it and their solution is for you to turn of
> DEP. It is like saying "our software has a bug and will not work with
> anti-virus softwares so you should disable your av software....."
>
> Just ridiculous!
>
> And they claim that this is a Microsoft problem and we should contact
> Microsoft......
>
> My chat with an online HP tech:
>
> Jerome: Hello Marshall.
> Jerome: Welcome to HP Total care for All-in-one products. My name is Jerome.
> How may I help you today?
> Marshall Lai: I am running Vista x64 and x86 in my home and am having
> problems with my HP c6180 software when resuming from sleep.
> Marshall Lai: Seems that the HPSLPSVC keeps on causing DEP violations on
> resume from S3.
> Jerome: I will help you with this,please elaborate your issue, so that I can
> assist you better?
> Marshall Lai: HPSLPSVC causes a DEP violation in Vista (both x64 and x86)
> when resuming from S3.
> Marshall Lai: Typical event log:
> Marshall Lai: Faulting application svchost.exe_HPSLPSVC, version
> 6.0.6000.16386, time stamp 0x4549b5f5, faulting module hpslpsvc64.dll,
> version 82.0.173.0, time stamp 0x457ce186, exception code 0xc0000005, fault
> offset 0x00000000000550ad, process id 0xc60, application start time
> 0x01c7b196eff7584c.
> Marshall Lai: And this will cause the printer to disappear from the computer
> and will have to be added back in via running the installation software
> Jerome: I understan your concern.
> Marshall Lai: I have searched on the web and seems that other people running
> vista and have HP network printers on their network are experiencing the
> same problem.
> Jerome: Please give me few minutes so that I can go through the mssage.
> Jerome: Let us perform few steps to disable DEP.
> Jerome: Here arae the steps:
> Jerome: Disable DEP in Vista:
>
> 1. Click Start
> 2. Click All Programs
> 3. Click Accessories
> 4. Right Click on Command Prompt
> 5. Left click on Run as Administrator
> 6. Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission
> Jerome: Please perform the above steps and let me know I will provide you
> further steps.
> Marshall Lai: I really don't want to disable DEP globally in Vista.
> Marshall Lai: One has to be crasy to do that. Also, in Vista x64, you cannot
> disable DEP anyway.
> Jerome: Marshall,I suggest you to contact Microsoft they will help you with
> this.
> Marshall Lai: Microsoft suggested me to contact HP as it is an HP service
> that causes the DEP violation.
> Jerome: Marshall if we disable the DEP it will be resolve.
> Jerome: So I suggest you to disable the DEP by following the above steps.
> Marshall Lai: It is like saying: The software has a problem with your
> anti-virus software and you should disable your anti-virus software.
> Marshall Lai: Will you be having a fix or will this be a requirement to
> running your softwares?
>
>
> "Surago" <sur...@sjones.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:1181960456....@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> > Further Note...
> >
> > One suggestion i have found on the web is to ensure the Printer is not
> > running with a DHCP assigned IP Address. I have just checked and
> > confirm that both the printer and the laptop are running with Static
> > IP Addresses, yet i still have the same problem. :(
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Surago.
> >
>
Perhaps when you install a Critical Update file on the HP website intended to
stop this happening?
You don't mention what HP printer it is -- that file is there for the 7410 AIO
"Surago" wrote:
> I have this problem also, my setup is as follows....
>
> HP C5180 Printer connected to DLink DSL-G604T Wireless modem router
> via Cat 5 cable. Vista Home Basic Laptop (Dell Inspiron 6400)
> connected via Wireless.
>
> Every couple of days the Printer Driver for the C5180 completely
> dissappears from the laptop machine and needs to be re-installed.
> Once the driver/software for the printer is re-installed everything
> works fine for another couple of days, and then the same thing occurs.
>
> I am continuing to troubleshoot this problem (much to the displeasure
> of my client), but hope to find a solution soon, else something will
> be thrown out the window. :)
>
>
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VISTA IS EVIL
Critical update to prevent unexpected printer uninstall
on the Driver etc download page for your printer?
Try:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=2093&lc=en&cc=us&dlc
=en&product=1153494&lang=en
You might get the other updates at the same time?
Good luck
I have not found a solution so if you do please post answer
DJT
However go to
http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/support.html?pageDisplay=drivers
and enter your model name Photosmart etc and then on the next page
enter VISTA (I presume) and look down the list of drivers and fixes for
one that is worded to stop repeated installations.
Ah -- got there:
Critical update to prevent unexpected printer uninstall
Download that and install it. I suggest you SAVE the file when you
download it in a location you can get to and then right mouse click on
it and select Run as Administrator to install it.
Hope that fixes it
You might want to download and install:
Critical update for memory card file transfers on networked products
with Microsoft Vista
HP Printing Diagnostic Utility
Please let us know how you get on.
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