PowerPoint extremely slow on Terminal Server
Noob
This is on a 2003 server sp2 and has Office 2007 sp1 installed.
I do have "Bitmap Cashing" enabled
Anyone able to point me in a direction?
Noob
I am also going to do the same setup on server 2008.
Will still have the same problem?
jolteroli
server side:
- virtualized environment?
- cpu
- memory bandwidth/fsb speed
- nic (toe, bus type, other traffic on the interface, frame size,...)
the network speed, errors on the links, bad negotiations, bad mtu setting
(retransmits/reassembling)
client side:
- nic
- memory bandwidth/fsb speed
- cpu (caches)
- graphics card processor (shared/dedicated memory)
and so on. this all are important hardware components for terminal
servicing.
you can try to tweak some settings for graphical applications, but this will
affect any session on the server and will increase the load much. if you are
serving user close the maximum this would be a rather bad idea.
!!! all values in decimal !!!
--[ Server
in "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal
Server\WinStations\RDP-Tcp" there are the two values "InteractiveDelay" and
"OutBufDelay". if i rememer right the values should be 50 and 200
milliseconds. write down the values, to restore the setting. then chage the
values to say 20 and 50 and restart the server.
--[ Client
the same can be done for the mstsc. in "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Terminal
Server Client" add a REG_DWORD with the name "Min Send Interval" and set the
value to 10 and start a new rdp session.
this will make the updates faster and the experience comes closer to a local
desktop.
-jolt
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Noob
powerpoint is slow when you try to move boxes/clipart and items like that.
This is slow even through console.
Server is a Dell 1800
Dual Xeon 2.8
16GB Ram
1GB Nic
10 TS Users avarage.
I have to keep this server around for one remote location so that is why i
am trying resolve the problem.
Clients are using one of these 10/100 Nic (Local), or cable, or dsl, Sprint
Wireless.
2 - 4 GBs Ram each system (laptop, or Desktop)
CPU ranges (Lowest that I know of is 1.8). Most are dual core 2.5+
Graphic cards are all over the board but min is 128
jolteroli
border of the clipart instead to the bitmap itself...
set the experience in the remote desktop connection on the client to the
bare minimum and try again power point. do the bitmap still move?
-jolt
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Noob
most are set at 56k
I tested at 28 and still the same.
Noob
I am about ready to say tell everyone that this is a "feature" and see if I
have the problem on my 2008 server.
If I have the same problem on 2008 then I will burn a support case to see if
there is a fix.
I was hoping there was a fix though.
"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
> Keep in mind that PP is a graphics pig and sends a ton of updates over
> RDP. Do not expect great performance (as your seeing) at all when using
> PP in a TS environment. if this is really required then I would try a
> product like Citrix's XenApp or Provision networks vWorkspace.
>
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
Jeff Pitsch
Keep in mind that PP is a graphics pig and sends a ton of updates over
RDP. Do not expect great performance (as your seeing) at all when using
PP in a TS environment. if this is really required then I would try a
product like Citrix's XenApp or Provision networks vWorkspace.
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
Charles
ever ble to solve the slow downs in PPT?
Adam
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Adam
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Noo wrote:
PowerPoint extremely slow on Terminal Server
06-Jan-09
Previous Posts In This Thread:
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:29 PM
Noo wrote:
PowerPoint extremely slow on Terminal Server
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:05 PM
Noo wrote:
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:39 PM
jolteroli wrote:
Re: PowerPoint extremely slow on Terminal Server
this all depends on
--[ Server
--[ Client
-jolt
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:01 PM
Noo wrote:
Only PPT is the slow.
Only PPT is the slow. They can use other apps at the same time but
powerpoint is slow when you try to move boxes/clipart and items like that.
This is slow even through console.
Server is a Dell 1800
Dual Xeon 2.8
16GB Ram
1GB Nic
10 TS Users avarage.
I have to keep this server around for one remote location so that is why i
am trying resolve the problem.
Clients are using one of these 10/100 Nic (Local), or cable, or dsl, Sprint
Wireless.
2 - 4 GBs Ram each system (laptop, or Desktop)
CPU ranges (Lowest that I know of is 1.8). Most are dual core 2.5+
Graphic cards are all over the board but min is 128
"jolteroli" wrote:
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:53 PM
jolteroli wrote:
did you try to turn off "drag full windows"?
did you try to turn off "drag full windows"? if power point only moves the
border of the clipart instead to the bitmap itself...
set the experience in the remote desktop connection on the client to the
bare minimum and try again power point. do the bitmap still move?
-jolt
"Noob" <No...@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:BC9E11B3-4A23-44A8...@microsoft.com...
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:01 PM
Noo wrote:
Re: PowerPoint extremely slow on Terminal Server
most are set at 56k
I tested at 28 and still the same.
"jolteroli" wrote:
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:07 PM
Jeff Pitsch wrote:
Keep in mind that PP is a graphics pig and sends a ton of updates over RDP.
Keep in mind that PP is a graphics pig and sends a ton of updates over
RDP. Do not expect great performance (as your seeing) at all when using
PP in a TS environment. if this is really required then I would try a
product like Citrix's XenApp or Provision networks vWorkspace.
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
jolteroli wrote:
On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:48 PM
Noo wrote:
I am about ready to say tell everyone that this is a "feature" and see if I
I am about ready to say tell everyone that this is a "feature" and see if I
have the problem on my 2008 server.
If I have the same problem on 2008 then I will burn a support case to see if
there is a fix.
I was hoping there was a fix though.
"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
On Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:15 PM
Charle wrote:
I am experiencing the same problem. I have similar server configs.
I am experiencing the same problem. I have similar server configs. Were you
ever ble to solve the slow downs in PPT?
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
> Slow performance of graphics-intensive apps like PowerPoint is a very
> common issue when using RDP. I recommend you look at Ericom Blaze, a
> software product that accelerates and compresses standard Microsoft
> RDP. Blaze accelerates RDP performance by as much as 10-25 times, and
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>
> You can read more about Blaze at:
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>
> Or view a video demo at:
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>
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> On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:29 PM Noo wrote:
> I am having problems with PowerPoint. IT is running very slow through RDP.
> This is on a 2003 server sp2 and has Office 2007 sp1 installed.
>
> I do have "Bitmap Cashing" enabled
>
> Anyone able to point me in a direction?
>> On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:05 PM Noo wrote:
>> I am also going to do the same setup on server 2008.
>>
>>>>>>> RDP. Do not expect great performance (as your seeing) at all when using
>>>>>>> PP in a TS environment. if this is really required then I would try a
>>>>>>> product like Citrix's XenApp or Provision networks vWorkspace.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jolteroli wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:48 PM Noo wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am about ready to say tell everyone that this is a "feature" and see if I
>>>>>>>> have the problem on my 2008 server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I have the same problem on 2008 then I will burn a support case to see if
>>>>>>>> there is a fix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was hoping there was a fix though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:15 PM Charle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing the same problem. I have similar server configs. Were you
>>>>>>>>> ever ble to solve the slow downs in PPT?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Noob" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:32 AM Adam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Slow performance of graphics-intensive apps like PowerPoint is a very common issue when using RDP. I recommend you look at Ericom Blaze, a software product that accelerates and compresses standard Microsoft RDP. Blaze accelerates RDP performance by as much as 10-25 times, and helps deliver higher frame rates and reduce screen freezes and choppiness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can read more about Blaze at:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ericom.com/ericom_blaze.asp?URL_ID=708
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or view a video demo at:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ericom.com/blaze_youtube.asp?URL_ID=708
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ericom
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>>>>>>>>>>> Adam wrote:
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