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Neal Schafer

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Dec 16, 2002, 10:56:18 AM12/16/02
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Can text be recognized in any application, or only in the
journal. I am contemplating buying tablet PC's to put in
exam rooms in a radiology facility. The technologists
need to fill in forms in our information system such as
patient history, complaint, etc...

Can they use the stylus to write into the forms of our
RIS (radiology information system) or would we have to do
some kind of copy and paste out of the journal.

Neal Schafer

David Owens II

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Dec 16, 2002, 1:34:27 PM12/16/02
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Not really, but one can use the input panel to write on. That is what I just
used and it work pretty well. So not every application supports ink, but
wherever you can place a text cursor in an application, the input panel will
convert one's handwriting into text.

David

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Brian

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Dec 16, 2002, 2:31:05 PM12/16/02
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If you have a copy of the original "form" in the program
it was created in (Word, etc.) you can Print it to the
Journal application and then save it as a template. It
will then be the background for your Journal note, where
you can write directly on the screen and fill in the
form. Then simply print or save, whichever is appropriate
for your application.


>> Can text be recognized in any application, or only in
the
>> journal. I am contemplating buying tablet PC's to put
in
>> exam rooms in a radiology facility. The technologists
>> need to fill in forms in our information system such as
>> patient history, complaint, etc...
>>
>> Can they use the stylus to write into the forms of our
>> RIS (radiology information system) or would we have to
do
>> some kind of copy and paste out of the journal.
>>
>> Neal Schafer
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Charlie Russel - MVP

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Dec 16, 2002, 5:30:02 PM12/16/02
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You can "print" the forms to the Journal "printer", and read them into
Journal as a template. Now you have a form that understands about ink. Or,
where you're dealing with a one-off situation, you can use the Tablet PC
Input Panel to write into and it will convert your handwriting into text and
enter it into the application where the cursor is.

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Ken

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Dec 16, 2002, 6:21:25 PM12/16/02
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you don't mention what the operating system is. if you're
trying to cross over into an rdp session like citrix
metaframe, then this won't work. there have been many
threads over the past month or so about this. works from
xp pro to xp pro, but not with xp pro to lower os's and
not with citrix. hopefully, citrix is now looking at this
as many windows ce devices serve as clients, but not as
well as the tablet does. if they develop a patch, then
many of us docs with chicken scratch can dictate into
emrs when simple template won't work.

ken

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Linnea

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Dec 17, 2002, 1:43:17 PM12/17/02
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I have another question Charlie. I have an application
which accepts input from the Keboard portion of the Tablet
PC Input panel, but not from the Writing Pad portion. I
have it set to send as text and even have the text preview
on so that I'm sure it is converting my handwriting
properly. Why is this happening? It seems to me that if
the application accepts input from the keyboard, it should
accept it from the writing pad also. The handwriting
recognition is being handled by Microsoft.
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Linnea

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Dec 17, 2002, 1:52:05 PM12/17/02
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David,
I have a situation where an application is accepting input
from the pc input panel when in the keyboard mode but not
in the writing pad mode. I am sending it in text mode and
it is recognizing the characters but is still not getting
into the application. Have you ever heard of this?
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Robert Levy [MVP]

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Dec 17, 2002, 3:47:36 PM12/17/02
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Note: This is a reply to a message on ms.public.windows.tabletpc, but I am
cross-posting to tabletpc.developer due to its relevance

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> I have a situation where an application is accepting input
> from the pc input panel when in the keyboard mode but not
> in the writing pad mode. I am sending it in text mode and
> it is recognizing the characters but is still not getting
> into the application. Have you ever heard of this?

Ok... this sounded interesting so I did a little test... I suspect the
problem you describe is related to the way that the program is "listening"
for input.

As developers, there are several keyboard actions that we can choose to
react to. For example, let's look at the .NET TextBox control... the
TextBox control lets us respond to any combination of these events:

KeyDown
KeyPress
TextChanged
KeyUp

When you use a standard keyboard, the operating system notifies the program
of all 4 of these events (in that order). When you use the Tablet Input
Panel Keyboard, the exact same thing happens.

However, when you use the Tablet Input Panel Writing Pad, the operating
system only notifies the program of 2 of these events (in this order):

KeyPress
TextChanged

(Note to developers: the KeyPress event is raised *once per character* being
sent and then TextChanged is raised *once per character*. For example, if
you write "Hi" then this is the order of events raised: KeyPress, KeyPress,
TextChanged, TextChanged).

So what does this all mean? Programs that are written to only listen for
KeyDown and/or KeyUp events will not work with the Writing Pad. Contact the
software developer and ask them to change their algorithm to use the
KeyPress or TextChanged events instead.

On a related note, when you paste text into a textbox, only a single event
is raised: TextChanged.

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Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices


Charlie Russel - MVP

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Dec 19, 2002, 2:33:32 PM12/19/02
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The only time I've seen this problem is either using Remote Desktop /
Terminal Services or if the background application loses focus. I'd make
sure that the background application is in focus and that the cursor is in
the field where you want text inserted.

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