WSUSUTIL.exe Deleteunneededrevisions no longer works!
KKVP
I would like to clean up the unneeded updates and when running below
command as per the http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb432641.aspx
article, I don't get the option.
Is there any other way to delete the updates to free-up space as I am
dying on it instead of reinstalling and sync MU again.
Thanks in Advance.
WSUSUTIL.exe Deleteunneededrevisions
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Regards,
KKVP
Lawrence Garvin (MVP)
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> Hi All,
>
> I would like to clean up the unneeded updates and when running below
> command as per the
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb432641.aspx
> article, I don't get the option.
>
> Is there any other way to delete the updates to free-up space as I am
> dying on it instead of reinstalling and sync MU again.
If you're using WSUS v3 then you should be using the "Server Cleanup Wizard"
in the Options page.
If you're using WSUS v2 then you should be considering upgrading to WSUS v3
so that you can use the SCW.
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Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
KKVP
Thanks for your swift reply. Sorry for not mentioning the WSUS version
used, we are using WSUS V3 with SP1.
I have tried the Server Cleanup Wizard, but no improvement. Is there
any possiblity to remove the unnedded updates without reinstalling WSUS from
scratch.
Troubleshooting Done,
1. Declined unneeded update (1200 out of 1609)
2. Ran Server Cleanup Wizard, no improvement
3. Ran WSUSDedugtool /tool:purgeunneededfiles, still no use.
Any help is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Regards,
KKVP
Lawrence Garvin (MVP)
> I have tried the Server Cleanup Wizard, but no improvement.
Then perhaps what we have here a conceptual misunderstanding of what your
issue is, and how to use the SCW?
> Is there any possiblity to remove the unnedded updates without
> reinstalling WSUS from
> scratch.
Well, first, let's clarify what you mean by "unneeded updates".
Are you referring to the metadata contained in the database, that produces a
line listing in your WSUS Admin Console, that you'd prefer not to see any
more because you're no longer interested in those updates,
=or =
Are you referring to the files contained in the filesystem that are taking
up disk space that you'd like to reclaim?
> Troubleshooting Done,
>
> 1. Declined unneeded update (1200 out of 1609)
> 2. Ran Server Cleanup Wizard, no improvement
> 3. Ran WSUSDedugtool /tool:purgeunneededfiles, still no use.
Yes.. throw away the WSUSDebugTool, okay? It was a tool designed for use
with WSUS v2, and has been almost completely encapsulated in native WSUS v3
features, most of which are contained in the Server Cleanup Wizard.
Now, back to the Server Cleanup Wizard.... merely declining updates is not
sufficient to cause any change in your disk consumption. If you are
declining updates that were never approved, then you never downloaded any
update content that could be deleted -- ergo no changes in disk consumption.
So, let's back up all the way to the beginning.
How much disk space is being used by your WSUS Server?
How many products, classifications, and languages are you supporting on your
WSUS Server?
Do you have Express Installation Files enabled?
Let's first determine if your disk utilization is "as expected" for your
environment,
and whether there actually are any "unneeded updates" that can be further
eliminated.
(The fact that you've already run the SCW pretty much eliminates the
possibility.)
KKVP
have taken to analysis the problem, ok let me answer your queries,
1. May be I don't know the exact functionality of SCW, could you pl explain.
2. My concern is the disk-space consumption.
3. Using MSDE database and size is as follows,
SUSDB.mdf --> 1.23 GB.
SUSDB_log.ldf --> 28.8 MB.
DiskSpace currently consumed --> 9.27 GB (previously it was approx. 40
GB).
Products --> Windows XP, Windows 2000*, Windows Server 2003*, Office
XP*, Office 2003
Classifications --> Critical Updates, Security Updates, Service Packs*,
Update Rollups*
Language --> English.
Also I did missed an important troubleshooting (method might be wrong),
just uninstalled WSUS & not the database.
Then reinstalled the WSUS that's why I have mentioned * in Products &
Classifications, since it was previously selected.
Yes, previously Express Installation Files were enabled (removed option 4
months back)
I think from your query it seems I have messed up some-where, request you to
assist me further in getting this resolved.
Thanks in advance.
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Regards,
KKVP
Lawrence Garvin (MVP)
> Thanks again for your swift response, and I really appreciate the effort
> you
> have taken to analysis the problem, ok let me answer your queries,
>
> 1. May be I don't know the exact functionality of SCW, could you pl
> explain.
It's not necessarily an issue of the specific functionalty, but rather
understanding the potential interaction of the various criteria used to
execute the tasks.
This is one of those times when reading the documentation can be very
helpful.
> 2. My concern is the disk-space consumption.
T.Y.
> 3. Using MSDE database and size is as follows,
>
> SUSDB.mdf --> 1.23 GB.
>
> SUSDB_log.ldf --> 28.8 MB.
Perfectly normal.
> DiskSpace currently consumed --> 9.27 GB (previously it was approx. 40
> GB).
>
> Products --> Windows XP, Windows 2000*, Windows Server 2003*, Office
> XP*, Office 2003
>
> Classifications --> Critical Updates, Security Updates, Service Packs*,
> Update Rollups*
>
> Language --> English.
~9 GB of file consumption for three operating systems, two versions of
office, and service packs is about par for the course. My server,
maintaining content for XP, Win2003, Vista, Win2008, Office 2003, Office
2008, Visual Studio, SQL Server, and a couple of other lesser product
categories, *not* including service packs is slightly more than 6GB. Allow
for the service pack content for three operating systems, and 9GB isn't
unrealistic at all.
> Also I did missed an important troubleshooting (method might be wrong),
> just uninstalled WSUS & not the database.
>
> Then reinstalled the WSUS that's why I have mentioned * in Products &
> Classifications, since it was previously selected.
Correct, uninstalling WSUS, but keeping the database, won't remove any
previously existing metadata, unless you've explicitly marked it as
declined, and it's been cleaned out by the SCW.
> Yes, previously Express Installation Files were enabled (removed option
> 4
> months back)
EIF from old updates may still be present; also disabling EIF is probably
accountable for your shrink from 40GB to <10GB.
> I think from your query it seems I have messed up some-where, request you
> to
> assist me further in getting this resolved.
I don't think you've messed up anywhere at all.
From what you've described, your disk consumption seems normal to me.
KKVP
Now the file space is aroung 17.8 GB,which I believe its not and I have to
start from scratch.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you
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Regards,
KKVP
Lawrence Garvin (MVP)
> Sorry for the delay as I was in my native with no access to internet.
>
> Now the file space is aroung 17.8 GB,which I believe its not and I have to
> start from scratch.
20GB disk consumption is not abnormal.
What exactly is your *problem*?
KKVP
Update Source -> MU
Products -> Office 2003 & Windows XP
Classifications -> Critical Updates & Security Patches
Update Files -> Store update files locally on this server (Download update
files to this server only when updates are approved is selected)
Update Languages -> English
With these settings,Disk Consumption of 20 GB is normal?
Thank you.
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Regards,
KKVP
Lawrence Garvin (MVP)
> WSUS -> 3.1.6001.65
> Update Source -> MU
> Products -> Office 2003 & Windows XP
> Classifications -> Critical Updates & Security Patches
> Update Files -> Store update files locally on this server (Download update
> files to this server only when updates are approved is selected)
> Update Languages -> English
>
> With these settings,Disk Consumption of 20 GB is normal?
Disk consumption of 20GB is *normal* for just about any installation, from
time to time.
Have you not read the Minimum System Requirements for WSUS?
The documented minimum system requirements are 30GB!
KKVP
Thanks for the reply.
Ya I know the minimum requirment to store diskspace is 30 GB.
Many thanks again for assisting, continue with your good work.
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Regards,
KKVP
DaveMills
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:35:01 -0800, KKVP <KK...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Dear Lawrence Garvin,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Ya I know the minimum requirment to store diskspace is 30 GB.
>
> Many thanks again for assisting, continue with your good work.
My server supports Vista, XP, W2003, SQL 2005 Exch 2003, Office 2003 and 2007
plus minor products like defender. It has all categories except drivers enabled
and the space was 8.7GB before running the cleanup wizard this morning and now
it is 6.7GB
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Dave Mills
There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary and those that don't.
Lawrence Garvin (MVP)
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> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:35:01 -0800, KKVP <KK...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> Ya I know the minimum requirment to store diskspace is 30 GB.
>>
>> Many thanks again for assisting, continue with your good work.
> My server supports Vista, XP, W2003, SQL 2005 Exch 2003, Office 2003 and
> 2007
> plus minor products like defender. It has all categories except drivers
> enabled
> and the space was 8.7GB before running the cleanup wizard this morning and
> now
> it is 6.7GB
Agreed. A well maintained system is not at all unlikely to be < 10GB
consumption.
However, I know nothing about the O.P.'s system or its history, and I'm
speculatin' that neither might the O.P. In such scenarios all I can do is
point out that complainin' about being within the documented parameters of
the product isn't going to accomplish much.
The O.P. has already run the SCW, so either something is being missed in the
process, or that the disk space that's going to be needed for that
installation.
DaveMills
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>"DaveMills" <Dave...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>news:lu6sj41b5ove62fe5...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:35:01 -0800, KKVP <KK...@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Ya I know the minimum requirment to store diskspace is 30 GB.
>>>
>>> Many thanks again for assisting, continue with your good work.
>
>> My server supports Vista, XP, W2003, SQL 2005 Exch 2003, Office 2003 and
>> 2007
>> plus minor products like defender. It has all categories except drivers
>> enabled
>> and the space was 8.7GB before running the cleanup wizard this morning and
>> now
>> it is 6.7GB
>
>Agreed. A well maintained system is not at all unlikely to be < 10GB
>consumption.
I just thought having a "target" may help. One factor may be that I only approve
updates actually detected as needed. We have seen many posters that approve all
updates for a product causing a lot of unnecessary downloads.
>
>However, I know nothing about the O.P.'s system or its history, and I'm
>speculatin' that neither might the O.P. In such scenarios all I can do is
>point out that complainin' about being within the documented parameters of
>the product isn't going to accomplish much.
>
>The O.P. has already run the SCW, so either something is being missed in the
>process, or that the disk space that's going to be needed for that
>installation.
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