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AATech

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Sep 4, 2009, 9:35:52 PM9/4/09
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Hi,

When i store files that were created on a Mac on my Windows 2003 server, it
strips out important information in the files, which prevents them from
opening properly in the future. Is there any way to preserve these file
resources on a Windows file server?

Thanks,
Alan


Ace Fekay [MCT]

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Sep 4, 2009, 10:00:11 PM9/4/09
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"AATech" <u2...@live.com> wrote in message
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I'm not a Mac expert, but at one customer where we noticed the same thing
happening, we found out that the users must save the file name with the
appropriate extension. Many Mac users, we've found, save the file without
supplying an extension, and what happens a Mac separates the file into two
parts, the data fork and a resource fork, that is if I remember the
terminology. It's been a few years since I've worked with that customer, but
the extension was the big thing. Otherwise, if the file was not in the same
location without the extensions, the file could not be opened. We had one
person opening each file in a Mac, then resave them using the Save As,
instead of just Save or Save To, and typing in the extension, so the Windows
users could open them.

[PDF] Moving Files Between the PC and the MacFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat.
To avoid any compatibility issues between PC and Mac word processors, have
students save their files in Rich Text document with file extension ...
http://www.thirteen.org/edonline/ntti/resources/workshops/digital_file/pdfs/moving_files.pdf

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=277910

I hope that helped.


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AATech

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Sep 4, 2009, 10:30:03 PM9/4/09
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All of the files except the fonts have extensions. The designer doens't know
what extension to put on the font, as he never uses PCs. Do you know what
extensions should be on Mac fonts?


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William Smith [MVP]

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:43:54 PM9/4/09
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AATech wrote:

If you use Mac OS X's built-in SMB file sharing support to connect to
your Windows server then everything should continue to function.

Apple's implementation of SMB will split Mac files into two files: a
file called "filename" and another invisible file called "._filename".

These invisible files can be made visible to Windows users and sometimes
they may delete them. They shouldn't. Many of the "filename" files are
still very usable if their "._filename" counterparts are deleted,
however, items like fonts will break.

I suggest you look at a better commercial option for your users. If you
have a handful of Macs then a product such as "Dave" or "ADmitMac" from
Thursby <http://www.thursby.com> will be ideal. It is a better SMB
client. Or you may find a better AFP server is more affordable for
larger numbers of users. Consider using ExtremeZ-IP from Group Logic
<http://www.grouplogic.com>.

Hope this helps!

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Ace Fekay [MCT]

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:55:49 PM9/4/09
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"AATech" <u2...@live.com> wrote in message
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> All of the files except the fonts have extensions. The designer doens't
> know what extension to put on the font, as he never uses PCs. Do you know
> what extensions should be on Mac fonts?

Windows uses .ttf (true type fonts), but there are other types that can be
used. I don't know enough about what Macs offer. Maybe William's response
may help you out.

Ace


Bob Jordan

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Nov 6, 2009, 1:41:03 AM11/6/09
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One of the things that I find most annoying is the loss of the file creation
date. They are all (apparently) created in 1904 which is not much use.

Same thing happens with files on USB memory devices. Those auxiliary files
_filename get stored OK but the information they contain does not get
restored correctly when they are returned, very annoying

Also the modified dates seem to be screwed up and if one sorts a set of
files on a Windows server by modified date, they come back in anything but
the order desired.

Nobody else seems to notice or care?

B.

I can also see


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Nov 11, 2009, 5:15:06 PM11/11/09
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Bob Jordan wrote:
> One of the things that I find most annoying is the loss of the file creation
> date. They are all (apparently) created in 1904 which is not much use.
>
> Same thing happens with files on USB memory devices. Those auxiliary files
> _filename get stored OK but the information they contain does not get
> restored correctly when they are returned, very annoying
>
> Also the modified dates seem to be screwed up and if one sorts a set of
> files on a Windows server by modified date, they come back in anything but
> the order desired.
>
> Nobody else seems to notice or care?
>
> B.

Strange, I haven't seen that. I store files on my college's system
which is accessible from the Macs and PCs - the file creation dates
don't seem to get fudged. I just copied a file to a fat32 jump drive
onto my desktop - same thing creation date is normal.
What is your jump drive formatted as?

Bob Jordan

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Nov 12, 2009, 2:48:44 AM11/12/09
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I agree - it is weird. I belong to a 500 person institute who use Windows
2003 server systems. The small numbers of Macs that connect as far as I can
tell all do not see creation dates other than the date 0 (1904). It is the
same if I look on a USB memory device. The files do get stored in duplicate
-with the _filename companion which I thought held al the Mac date stuff
but it is not used apparently.

But add to that if I view a folder on the server and do a view by modify
date, I see the dates in a slightly mixed order - sort of ordered but with
some anomalies. Today's files may be half way down the screen. Crazy.

I cannot accept that this is normal behaviour but it is not onlyu my
computer - all Macs see this in our system as far as I can tell.

I have posted in a few places but never get any suggestions or anything

Strange - its not as though Macs on a 2003 server are that unusual.

Bob J.


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