NetBios and DNS
Joe
I think I have confused myself here. Could I get a hand please.
I was at one time usning my DNS servers for Hosting Domains on the internet.
Now I have no need for this and just wanted to use them for internal PC's
and workstations. I have configured the forarders and Added my ISP DNS.
I have added the PC's by NetBios names but is this correct because under a
NSLOOKUP the NS cannot find the PC's? Do I need to Integrate WINS in ths
case if I am not on a DC?
What possibly did I do wrong here?
I have a WNS server so I can resolve the names and find the PC's
Thanks for any help
Joseph
Herb Martin
"Joe" <J...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I think I have confused myself here. Could I get a hand please.
> I was at one time usning my DNS servers for Hosting Domains on the
> internet.
>
> Now I have no need for this and just wanted to use them for internal PC's
> and workstations. I have configured the forarders and Added my ISP DNS.
Added the ISP as the forwarder(s) for the Internal servers, right?
> I have added the PC's by NetBios names but is this correct because under a
> NSLOOKUP the NS cannot find the PC's? Do I need to Integrate WINS in ths
> case if I am not on a DC?
If you have a zone for your "domain name" and you add the computer records
to that zone (or let Dynamic updates do this) you do not need to configure
WINS
integration -- that is only useful for machines registered with WINS which
are NOT
in the DNS server (zone).
> What possibly did I do wrong here?
What zone did you use?
Show the exact NSLookup command you used... and try doing it explicitly
to a particular DNS server if you haven't done that.
> I have a WNS server so I can resolve the names and find the PC's
Ok.
Every machine needs to be STRICTLY configured to use the INTERNAL
DNS Server (set).
--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)
Joe
Thanks for the reply.
actually there is no zone for the domain name and Dynamic Updates are not
enabled. Which as I can see here is a big problem.
I have the PC's configured with the internal DNS server and I have internet
access from all PC's.
How I did this NSLookup was like this.
open NSlookup from DNS MMC and typed this
nslookup [netbiosname]
that was all.
and yes I have forwarders configured.
Thanks
Joe
Herb Martin
> Hello Herb,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> actually there is no zone for the domain name and Dynamic Updates are not
> enabled. Which as I can see here is a big problem.
Dynamic updates CANNOT be enabled if there no zone.
You claimed:
>> > I have added the PC's by NetBios names...
...but you obviously didn't do this in DNS since that requires a zone --
there
would be no point in doing it in WINS since WINS is (practically) always a
dynamicly registered service.
> I have the PC's configured with the internal DNS server and I have
> internet
> access from all PC's.
Good.
> How I did this NSLookup was like this.
> open NSlookup from DNS MMC and typed this
> nslookup [netbiosname]
Well that isn't going to work unless you have a ZONE configured.
Even for WINS Integration you will need a zone because it is configured
on a per zone basis.
You may however be able to "ping" or reach internal "DNS" resources
since DNS will typically fail over to using NetBIOS methods.
> that was all.
> and yes I have forwarders configured.
Joe
Than I have confused myself,
When I run the add a zone and asked whether it is a primary secondary of a
stub I used primary. Now when asked to name the zone (in the past when
hosting domain names on the internet) I just added the domain name and then
added records to this zone such as A MX and SPF etc. this didn't seem as
difficult as what I am trying to do now.
So when I add a zone now I can name it anyhting I ant to? and ten add the
PC's to this? This is where I am confused.
Thanks again
Joe
"Herb Martin" wrote:
>
> "Joe" <J...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BB2443E0-F545-49B8...@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Herb,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > actually there is no zone for the domain name and Dynamic Updates are not
> > enabled. Which as I can see here is a big problem.
>
> Dynamic updates CANNOT be enabled if there no zone.
>
> You claimed:
> >> > I have added the PC's by NetBios names...
>
> ....but you obviously didn't do this in DNS since that requires a zone --
Herb Martin
> Hello Herb,
>
> Than I have confused myself,
>
> When I run the add a zone and asked whether it is a primary secondary of a
> stub I used primary.
Correct since you have to have the Primary (i.e., the master)
before you can have any of the other types.
> Now when asked to name the zone (in the past when
> hosting domain names on the internet) I just added the domain name and
> then
> added records to this zone such as A MX and SPF etc. this didn't seem as
> difficult as what I am trying to do now.
>
> So when I add a zone now I can name it anyhting I ant to? and ten add the
> PC's to this? This is where I am confused.
Anything you wish --technically-- but pick something you either own (one
of your Interent zones) or perhaps better something that is PRIVATE, i.e.,
no registerable on the Internet. Perhaps yourCompany.loc or .local
This would be your Active Directory DOMAIN name if you were creating
a Win2000+ domain.
Generally this name should be the same as the "Primary DNS Suffix" in the
System Control panel, General tab of every one of your machines.
Then add the PCs either manually or by allowing them to register
dynamically.
Joe
Thanks. What do you mean by every machine? This is confusing to me.
Also I run the nslookup from the MMC and I get the correct IP but it says
"server unknown". As I am finding out this is much different than hosting on
the net.
as it is, the forward zone is mydomain.com (substituting the Mydomain for
the real thing) this is the suffix of the DNS server) and I have added one
PC via right clicking on the zone and seleting add domain and then proceeding
to configure the IP address.
Anything else?
Thank you
Joe
Herb Martin
> Hello Herb,
>
> Thanks. What do you mean by every machine?
> This is confusing to me.
Every machine should have the the correct Primary DNS Suffix set in the
System control panel, and it should also use the correct Name Servers
in the IP properties.
> Also I run the nslookup from the MMC and I get the correct IP but it says
> "server unknown". As I am finding out this is much different than hosting
> on
> the net.
That server unknown crud is just do to a bug/feature of NSLookup -- as long
as you get the correct answer to the question you asked ignore it. It is
complaining
because the DNS server itself has no "reverse" PTR record in a reverse zone.
> as it is, the forward zone is mydomain.com (substituting the Mydomain for
> the real thing) this is the suffix of the DNS server) and I have added
> one
> PC via right clicking on the zone and seleting add domain and then
> proceeding
> to configure the IP address.
You would want to add a "Host" or "A record" not a "domain".
Joe
Thank you for all your wonderful help.
After all, I was confused :)
Very much appreciated
Herb Martin
> Hello Herb,
>
> Thank you for all your wonderful help.
>
> After all, I was confused :)
>
> Very much appreciated
You are very welcome. Let us know when we can help you again,
and pass on the help to others when you are able....
Joe
I will do just that when I am able to ;)
Joseph