Windows MCE won't let you install set top without buying IR remote
Brian
cannot simply configure my tv tuner to accept signals from the set top box
with buying an IR remote. I don't need an IR remote, I simply change
channels at the set top and send the signal to the tuner. PLEASE write a fix
to bypass the IR remote installation step for those of us who find it
unecessary.
No I don't want to do the bypass trick where one manually configures the
input as "analog antenna"..the picture is very poor, since I'm trying to
watch HDTV from my HD DVR
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Nigel Barker
>I am VERY ANNOYEd that due to the software of Windows MCE for Vista that I
>cannot simply configure my tv tuner to accept signals from the set top box
>with buying an IR remote. I don't need an IR remote, I simply change
>channels at the set top and send the signal to the tuner. PLEASE write a fix
>to bypass the IR remote installation step for those of us who find it
>unecessary.
Media Center expects to be able to control the STB using the IR bug that plugs into the IR remote
receiver. How else would it perform unattended recordings if it cannot change channel. If you don't
like the way that Media Center does this then use some other TV software.
>No I don't want to do the bypass trick where one manually configures the
>input as "analog antenna"..the picture is very poor, since I'm trying to
>watch HDTV from my HD DVR
I quite agree that the picture via "analog antenna" will certainly be poor but there seems little
point in vieiwng HDTV from your HD DVR via Media Center as you will be connecting your DVR via
s-video & L/R audio thus reducing the picture quality to Standard Definition & having stereo sound
instaed of surround. Why not just use your HD DVR as it is intended directly connected to the TV?
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Captain Roberts
Tuner always on channel 3, and channels using the set top box remote. The
picture is awesome with my ATI 550 Elite tuner card using this method.
Also, you won't need the Guide, so choose no on that too.
Captain Roberts
Nigel Barker
What is the point of doing this? With this setup Media Center can't change channels or schedule
recordings. Why not just connect the STB direct to the TV?
Gary Tsang
IR mechanism? Just wondering?
Surely you aren't going to sit in front of your STB and change the
channels...
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Captain Roberts
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> How do you expect Media Center to change the channels on the STB without
> the IR mechanism? Just wondering?
>
> Surely you aren't going to sit in front of your STB and change the
> channels...
>
Gary, I think he wants to use the remote for his STB?
Wayne
Jason Tsang
the scheduling whim of the broadcaster.
Being forced to sit in front of the tv, and changing the channel yourself is
really not taking advantage of what MCE can do. At that point, you're
really better off not going through MCE at all. (IMHO)
the percentage of people who choose to cripple the functionality of MCE like
doesn't warrant removing this restriction, otherwise, Microsoft would have
likely done so already.
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> The whole point of the PVR system in MCE is so you don't have to watch tv
> at the scheduling whim of the broadcaster.
>
> Being forced to sit in front of the tv, and changing the channel yourself
> is really not taking advantage of what MCE can do. At that point, you're
> really better off not going through MCE at all. (IMHO)
>
> the percentage of people who choose to cripple the functionality of MCE
> like doesn't warrant removing this restriction, otherwise, Microsoft would
> have likely done so already.
>
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>
Jason, I guess your cable company doesn't let you program your STB to
play/record a program through its guide. Comcast does.
Jason Tsang
You'd get better picture quality going from your PVR STB straight to TV.
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Jason Tsang
in all, pvr to mce using the pvr to do the scheduling is not high up on
Microsoft's priority list of 'common' usage scenarios, so I don't see this
changing signficantly at all, esepecially since changing it would compromise
a much more commonly used scenario.
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> If that's the case, why even go through MCE.
>
> You'd get better picture quality going from your PVR STB straight to TV.
>
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My TV is my Computer Monitor. I get HD resolution on my LCD monitor, and I
can watch/listen to TV while I work on other projects. My STB sits right
next to my tower case.
Captain Roberts
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tuner in the MCE machine that does not support HD.
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Brian
Cinema Display..which looks way better than my 27" CRT Sony Television. I
have since learned the "glory" of HDCP a piece of technology not incorporated
into my computer monitor. I'll have to settle for gaming and buy a separate
HDTV now.. .
Manyu
Microsoft's idea of making the mandatory IR remote cable check, that includes
the Windows Media Center MVPs.
Consider this, Dell inspiron 1720 Laptop with Vista Home Premium 32-bit,
"Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick" external USB TV Tuner and because I am in
India, Tata Sky (www.tatasky.com) satellite TV set top box. The set top box
has Composite Out connection (yellow cable), which gives better picture
quality.
I cannot configure Media Center as Dell only gave a remote and never
supplied the IR Blaster with my order. It was never even an option when I
bought it. Forget that. I DON'T want to use the Media Centre remote. Most
people might say, no recording and other stuff. No problem for me. I sit on
my chair, laptop on the table, set top box on the side. I can use the
keyboard and mouse to do all that can be done by the remote. But can the MCE
remote order movies through my service provider, it cannot. The buttons of my
set top box remote cannot be replicated on the WMC remote.
The WMC TV signal setup should have clearly given an option to proceed
without the IR Blaster if not found. If anybody knows any work around or if
Microsoft is listening, please provide us with a solution.