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Re: Want to roll-back to previous Windows Messenger?

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Lu C

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Mar 10, 2009, 4:41:44 PM3/10/09
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We are wanting to piggy back on "jumo"'s issue. we are a small IM community
of four deaf people using ASL. We all have Vista Home Premium. Two happy WLM
8.1 users. One less happy WLM 2008 user and one unhappy 2009 user... As
"Jumo" we don't need or want the "bells and whistles". We all want to go
back to 8.1. What are the steps and sequence for this regression?. Thank you
for any suggestions

"jumo" <ju...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I just downloaded the latest version of Windows Live Messenger (9). And it
> changed some things in my Windows Live Mail. I really do not need all the
> "bells and whistles", and would like to "roll-back" to the previous
> version.
> And I have multiple identities in Windows Live mail and don't want to lose
> any of the identities or their e-mails. Can I do this and if so..how?
> Thanks
>
> P.S. I have Windows XP Pro

Jonathan Kay [MVP]

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Mar 11, 2009, 12:46:51 AM3/11/09
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Greetings,

When you install the latest Messenger, Windows Live Mail gets updated too.

However, it was my understanding that all versions of Windows Live Mail do not have
identities support, so I'm wondering if you were using Outlook Express?

As a quick fix though, you may just want to use the System Restore feature in Windows to go
back to before when you installed the latest Windows Live Messenger and everything should be
back to the way it was before. To get to System Restore click Start, then Help & Support,
and then 'Undo changes to my computer using System Restore'.

Be aware though that uninstalling and reinstalling the old applications is certainly still an
option, although we'll need to know which versions and which applications you need.

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]

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Mar 11, 2009, 1:20:37 AM3/11/09
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Hi Lu,

Yes you can downgrade to 8.1.

Firstly you'll need to uninstall the version you have installed already though. You can do
this by going to Programs and Features in the Control Panel. For Live Messenger 2008 it will
be listed as Windows Live Messenger and for 2009, you'll have to choose the Windows Live
Essentials option and then uninstall Messenger from within that installer that will appear.

After that you can simply install 8.1 from here:
http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d78f2ff1-79ea-4066-8ba0-ddbed94864fc


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Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
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Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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Lu C

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Mar 12, 2009, 7:25:31 AM3/12/09
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Hi Jonathan,
Thank you for answering our post. We use Hotmail and Windows Mail. We noted
that the upgrade to 2009 included WL Essentials (92.9MB) plus a WL Sync
(2.78 MB) and WL Upload Tool (225 KB). Should these programs also be
uninstalled? We like the System Restore option. However, Help and Support
does not explain how far back we can restore. Is there a time limit? Can a
system be restored back 30 days or more?
Thank you.

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Jonathan Kay [MVP]

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Mar 12, 2009, 10:48:25 PM3/12/09
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Hi,

Windows Mail will still be there, you should still be able to find it in the Start menu.
Just remove the shortcut to Windows Live Mail. If for some reason you can't find it, just
head over to \Program Files\Windows Mail and run the winmail program yourself. Naturally you
can also create a new shortcut for it too.

The amount of restore points will depend on how much disk space you have available, so it can
go back only a few days or months depending on what's available and how many changes have
been made to the system. Additionally, these restore points are only made every 24 hours (if
your machine is on and idle) or when you install/uninstall software.

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
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Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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falcron

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Mar 13, 2009, 10:05:57 AM3/13/09
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So how exactly do you downgrade?

Every time I try, and then sign in, it tells me that a new version is
available and that I "must upgrade" to continue, and I thus cannot sign
in.

The new live messenger is complete crap with webcams, and I went from
no issues at all to it never working. I depend on webcam for work
conversations with coworkers, and I've been dead in the water trying to
figure this out. If I view the network traffic with wireshark, and
hammer the "Video" button, nothing happens on wireshark from MSN. It
doesn't even try to make the call. Its ridiculous.

Thanks.

I get either this:

Messenger is not available right now. Please try again later.
(0x8100039d)

Or This:

Messenger is not available right now. Please try again later.
(0x8ac70013)

And I think two different error codes. They seem to be totally at
random. Whatever QA at microsoft actually let this ship should be
fired.

(And no, I don't have McAfee, and no I don't have any firewall blocks
for MSN)


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Lu C

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Mar 13, 2009, 8:54:25 PM3/13/09
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Jonathan,
Thank you, we resolved our Mail issues and appreciated and understood your
explanation on restore points. We read "Help and support" their explanations
were vague not as clear as yours. Thank you.


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Jonathan Kay [MVP]

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Mar 13, 2009, 9:46:52 PM3/13/09
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Hi,

Glad to hear it :)

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]

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Mar 13, 2009, 9:48:39 PM3/13/09
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Hi,

You can't downgrade to previous versions of 2009, 9.0 and in some operating systems (like
Vista), you'll be limited to 8.1 and above.

The easiest downgrade path is to uninstall 2009 by going to the Programs and Features and
removing Windows Live Essentials. Then installing 2008 (Messenger 8.5) from:
http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7a1aae73-48cc-4f7a-b445-0487bd5e84ef

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
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Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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bobs4bob

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Sep 18, 2009, 4:06:01 AM9/18/09
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yea the essentials is the biggest bunch of crap they have come up with for
web cams and misc add on crap. I havent been able to roll back to 8.1 or 8.5
from any site ..you can install but when you try to sign in it says you need
a newer version available do you wish to continue...nooooo think Ill try aim
or yahoo
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Bob

Pookie12

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Sep 19, 2009, 6:31:02 PM9/19/09
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I dont know where to write a new topic, but im having all the same problems.
My friend with vista has his explorer crash or freeze constantly. When we
try to play spades on zone.com, and he sends the invite I cant see it. What
can I do???

chatis191

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Sep 29, 2009, 5:37:02 AM9/29/09
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hello! I have the same problem
my laptop've windows vista And the error when I want to realize a
conversation with my wecam is :
Messenger is not available right now. Please try again later. (0x8ac70013),
mi webcam is microsoft LifeCam 1.3 model vx-3000

I had last version and i didn't have problem but when always y try to sign

in it says you need a newer version available do you wish to continue

Please Help me!

394@discussions.microsoft.com Medic 394

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:37:02 AM11/7/09
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i have the latest version of messenger 2009 installed i'm usuing my laptop
with windows 7 and i can't send my webcam or video call can anybody help
please.
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