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Wisloki

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:38:01 PM2/8/10
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I am operating Windows Live Mail on Windows 7 Home Premium. There is no
problem with the mail box settings, the problem lies solely in the compose
window when I click to send to the Outbox the system hangs until I click OK
on the error masessage "The message could not be sent. An error has
occurred". Can anyone help me to try and resolve my problem in Windows 7, in
XP with exactly the same set up everything works perfectly.

Michael Santovec

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:19:37 PM2/8/10
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In Tools (ALT+T), Options, Send, do you have Send Immediately checked?
If so uncheck it.

Then see if you can compose and click send. If the message gets written
to the Outbox folder without you getting the error message that says the
problem is not with the compose window but rather when WLM tries to send
the message from the Outbox to the mail server.

One possible cause of the problem is at Tools, Accounts, Mail,
Properties, General the Name field is blank.

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Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us

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Wisloki

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Feb 9, 2010, 3:48:01 AM2/9/10
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"Michael Santovec" wrote:

> .
>Thank you for taking the trouble to try and help me. The Send Immediately box was unchecked. On all accounts that I operate the name field is completed.

I cannot get out of the Compose window with the message, when I click Send I
get the error message and the window hangs until I click OK in the error
message box, so nothing reaches the Outbox. I have exactly the same set up on
my XP laptop and all works perfectly.

Any further advice would be most appreciated. Thank you.

Peter.R

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Feb 9, 2010, 6:41:03 AM2/9/10
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[Reply below...]

"Wisloki" <Wis...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1AA2911B-E314-4032...@microsoft.com...
>>
>> "Wisloki" <Wis...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B0312CF2-D5FE-4F4D...@microsoft.com...
>>>
>> > I am operating Windows Live Mail on Windows 7 Home Premium. There is no problem with the mail box settings, the problem lies solely in the compose window when I click to send to the Outbox the system hangs until I click OK on the error masessage "The message could not be sent. An error has occurred". Can anyone help me to try and resolve my problem in Windows 7, in XP with exactly the same set up everything works perfectly.
>>
>>
>>Thank you for taking the trouble to try and help me. The Send Immediately box was unchecked. On all accounts that I operate the name field is completed.
>
> I cannot get out of the Compose window with the message, when I click Send I get the error message and the window hangs until I click OK in the error message box, so nothing reaches the Outbox. I have exactly the same set up on my XP laptop and all works perfectly.
>
> Any further advice would be most appreciated. Thank you.

Have you tried unchecking '[ ] Always check spelling before sending' at Tools->Options...->Spelling [tab]?

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Peter.R
(Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8089.726 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

Wisloki

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Feb 9, 2010, 8:15:01 AM2/9/10
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"Peter.R" wrote:

I just tried this but no change, I still get the error message, window
hanging and cannot Send to Outbox. Thank you for the thought. Wisloki

Peter.R

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Feb 9, 2010, 8:52:22 AM2/9/10
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[Reply below...]

"Wisloki" <Wis...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:481C9730-AEC9-44B2...@microsoft.com...
Does Action Center have a report on the problem?

Control Panel->Action Center->Maintenance->View reliability history->View all problem reports

What AntiVirus are you using, and is it set to scan incoming/outgoing e-mail?

Wisloki

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Feb 9, 2010, 10:08:01 AM2/9/10
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"Peter.R" wrote:

I am using MSE as my anti-virus programme and it is on default settings.

In the Action Centre WLM is mentioned but only in the past 2 days here is a
copy of the report but it means nothing to me:-

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: PCA2
Problem Signature 01: wlmail.exe
Problem Signature 02: 14.0.8089.726
Problem Signature 03: Windows Live Mail
Problem Signature 04: Windows Live Mail
Problem Signature 05: Microsoft Corporation
Problem Signature 06: 200
Problem Signature 07: -1
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 692190374

I am sure this means something to you. Thanks again.

...winston

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Feb 9, 2010, 2:34:40 PM2/9/10
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MSE doesn't scan email in or out.
You might try to temporarily exclude wlmail.exe in MSE to prevent it being scanned...
- Though I suspect, something else is in play that is causing WLM(wlmail.exe) to crash

Have you tried repairing WLM(Programs and Features/Windows Live Essentials - double click to start the installer, when prompted
choose the 'Repair Option')


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...winston
ms-mvp mail

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Wisloki

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Feb 9, 2010, 3:48:02 PM2/9/10
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"...winston" wrote:

> .
>Hello Winston

I excluded wlmail.exe in MSE but unfortunately no difference. I had tried
repairing before but I tried again after your comment, again unfortunately no
change in WLM. Your help is much appreciated and I would be most pleased to
hear of anything else you could suggest to solve this problem.

Thank you.

Wisloki

PA Bear, MS MVP

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Feb 9, 2010, 8:59:00 PM2/9/10
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@winston & Mike Santovec: There's much more to this story. See
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/03e3f9d8-493f-4766-8eec-30c9521f9c3c

For example:

<QP>
I followed your instructions for the Norton Removal Tool and all ____
let loose on my computer after rebooting. I use Explorer and Firefox
as browsers and both suffered near terminal failure! I could not get
them set up to give me this string, {?] so I had no option but to go
to system restore which I use every time I add a new programme to the
system... [?]
</QP>
~~
~PA Bear, posted via Google Groups


On Feb 9, 2:34 pm, "...winston" <winston...@gmail.com> wrote:
> MSE doesn't scan email in or out.
> You might try to temporarily exclude wlmail.exe in MSE to prevent it being scanned...
>  - Though I suspect, something else is in play that is causing WLM(wlmail.exe) to crash
>
> Have you tried repairing WLM(Programs and Features/Windows Live Essentials - double click to start the installer, when prompted
> choose the 'Repair Option')
>

<SNIPPAGE>


> >> >> >> > I am operating Windows Live Mail on Windows 7 Home Premium. There is no problem with the mail box settings, the problem
> >> >> >> > lies solely in the compose window when I click to send to the Outbox the system hangs until I click OK on the error
> >> >> >> > masessage "The message could not be sent. An error has occurred". Can anyone help me to try and resolve my problem in
> >> >> >> > Windows 7, in XP with exactly the same set up everything works perfectly.
>
> >> >> >>Thank you for taking the trouble to try and help me. The Send Immediately box was unchecked. On all accounts that I operate
> >> >> >>the name field is completed.
>
> >> >> > I cannot get out of the Compose window with the message, when I click Send I get the error message and the window hangs
> >> >> > until I click OK in the error message box, so nothing reaches the Outbox. I have exactly the same set up on my XP laptop
> >> >> > and all works perfectly.
>
> >> >> > Any further advice would be most appreciated. Thank you.
>
> >> >> Have you tried unchecking  '[ ] Always check spelling before sending'  at Tools->Options...->Spelling [tab]?
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Peter.R
> >> >> (Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8089.726 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit)
> >> >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>
> >> > I just tried this but no change, I still get the error message, window hanging and cannot Send to Outbox. Thank you for the
> >> > thought. Wisloki
>
> >> Does Action Center have a report on the problem?
>
> >> Control Panel->Action Center->Maintenance->View reliability history->View all problem reports
>
> >> What AntiVirus are you using, and is it set to scan incoming/outgoing e-mail?
>

...winston

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Feb 10, 2010, 6:05:12 AM2/10/10
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After reading all other posts(here and Win7 social.answers..._
- 32 or 64 bit windows and/or pc ?

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...winston
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PA Bear, MS MVP

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Feb 10, 2010, 11:28:33 AM2/10/10
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Follow-up: We've gotten Wisloki's "Norton vs MSE" issues cleared up
now so I've suggested that he might fix his problem by backing-up his
WLMail data then uninstalling/reinstalling WLMail. See
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/03e3f9d8-493f-4766-8eec-30c9521f9c3c
--
~PA Bear, via Google Groups


On Feb 9, 8:59 pm, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
> @winston & Mike Santovec: There's much more to this story. Seehttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/03e...


>
> For example:
>
> <QP>
> I followed your instructions for the Norton Removal Tool and all ____
> let loose on my computer after rebooting. I use Explorer and Firefox
> as browsers and both suffered near terminal failure! I could not get
> them set up to give me this string, {?] so I had no option but to go
> to system restore which I use every time I add a new programme to the
> system... [?]
> </QP>
> ~~
> ~PA Bear, posted via Google Groups

<SNIP>

Wisloki

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Feb 11, 2010, 12:10:01 AM2/11/10
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"PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:

> Follow-up: We've gotten Wisloki's "Norton vs MSE" issues cleared up
> now so I've suggested that he might fix his problem by backing-up his
> WLMail data then uninstalling/reinstalling WLMail. See
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/03e3f9d8-493f-4766-8eec-30c9521f9c3c
> --
> ~PA Bear, via Google Groups
>
>
> On Feb 9, 8:59 pm, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
> > @winston & Mike Santovec: There's much more to this story. Seehttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/03e...
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > <QP>
> > I followed your instructions for the Norton Removal Tool and all ____
> > let loose on my computer after rebooting. I use Explorer and Firefox
> > as browsers and both suffered near terminal failure! I could not get
> > them set up to give me this string, {?] so I had no option but to go
> > to system restore which I use every time I add a new programme to the
> > system... [?]
> > </QP>
> > ~~
> > ~PA Bear, posted via Google Groups
> <SNIP>

> .

Thank you Robear once again. After the Norton removal I did indeed do a
clean uninstall and reinstalled WLM and still the problem continued.

Another thought I can only download WLM build 14.0.8089.0726 what about
trying a previous build? If so could anyone give me a link to downlaod it.

Incidently where on Windows 7 are the WLM mails stored, I could find them in
XP but I am having difficulty in W7.

Any help form anyone would be most appreciated.

Wisloki

Peter.R

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Feb 11, 2010, 12:55:34 AM2/11/10
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WLMail's Message Store is a directory named 'Windows Live Mail'. The path to the Message Store, in its default location involves a hidden folder, so ensure that '(o) Show hidden files, folders, and drives' is checked under Folder Options in Windows Explorer.

The default Message Store location for W7 is:
%localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
(C:\Users\[UserName]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail)

Other software could be interfering with WLMail's operation, so try running WLMail after a Clean Boot* (ensuring that your security software is not protecting itself from having its processes/services disabled). See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796

Booting into Safe Mode with Networking (F8 at Startup->...) and trying to run WLMail is another diagnostic option.

A corrupt Windows System File is another possibility, so try running 'System File Checker' from an elevated Command Prompt (sfc /scannow). See: http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66978-system-files-sfc-command.html

Also scan your hard drive for errors (My computer->right-click drive->Properties->Tools [tab]->Error-checking [section]->Check now... [button]->'Automatically fix file system errors' [check]->Start [button]->Schedule disk check [button]->Restart computer.

For a look at the Chkdsk log in W7, open Event Viewer:

Start->Run->eventvwr [type]->OK->Windows Logs->Application->Information [Level]->Wininit [Source]->1001 [Event ID]

(It is normal for Chkdsk to remove unused index entries and unused security descriptors every time it is run. These do not indicate a problem with the file system).

If Chkdsk has found and fixed errors, it is a good idea to run Chkdsk again - as many times as needed until no problems are found, and then reboot the System yet again, without scheduling a Chkdsk.

After all that, a 'Complete' Uninstall/Reinstall of WLMail might solve the problem... See http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!226.entry

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Peter.R
(Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8089.726 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

slk759

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Feb 11, 2010, 12:54:48 AM2/11/10
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Older WLM versions are not available for download. The location of your
store folder can be found at Tools - Options - Advanced tab - Maintenance
button - Store Folder button.


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Wisloki

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Feb 11, 2010, 11:35:01 AM2/11/10
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"Peter.R" wrote:

I have done nearly everything that you listed and the error continues
however I lost my nerve when it came to the 'complete' unistall/reinstall
method for WLM. I feel sure that it would solve the issue but having printed
out the link you sent me I judder with messing around with the registry and
other horrors that seem to lie in wait for me!

I am almost for leaving WLM alone and using a new mail programme but it
still annoys me that I would lose 14 years worth of e-mails in the same
programme, though I know of course that they can be saved to open at will,
though jumbled up, now I have found the folder.

Maybe I will pluck up courage and try the uninstall but I need some time to
think about it!

Thanks again for all your hard work to try and resolve my problem.

Wisloki

Peter.R

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Feb 12, 2010, 12:05:14 AM2/12/10
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So the error still occurred after a clean boot, and also in Safe Mode...

A Complete Uninstall/Reinstall may well solve the problem.

The registry can indeed be daunting and dangerous, but if you create a Restore Point prior to opening Regedit, and be careful to delete only the advised Registry Keys, you should be fine. By all means do some research on the Registry beforehand to increase your confidence.

If you prefer, you can start off by only renaming the Message Store, and see if that alone solves the problem.

By the way, you can use Details view to view your e-mail files in Windows Explorer, and add the necessary Columns to make sense of them (e.g. 'Date sent', 'From', 'From addresses', 'Size', 'Subject', 'To addresses').

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Peter.R
(Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8089.726 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

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Wisloki

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Feb 13, 2010, 1:13:01 AM2/13/10
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"Peter.R" wrote:

Thank you for your encouragement with the 'complete' uninstall/reinstall. I
followed your URL as far as I could, some of the items to tackle had
disappeared after I had made the one registry change which was necessary.

Following exactly, including disabling MSE, WLM was reinstalled but although
the WLM small screen appeared on start up there was no logging in and the
following error message appeared "WLM could not be started. Calender corrupt
data that is forcing WLM to close. 0x8E5E0408." I rebooted several times but
the problem continued.

My nerve cracked at that point and I restored the system to before the
'complete' uninstall process was started. WLM started and automatically
restored the back up of folders and files. This took quite a while as I have
many storage folders and thousands of mails saved from the mid 90's!

The news is that everything is working, the problem is solved, I can compose
a mail and send it to the outbox. The system is fully operational again.

I cannot tell you how grateful I am to you. I only wish that this was a more
public site where I could sing your praises more loudly. Thank you very much
indeed for your patience, your time and your help.


František G

Peter.R

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Feb 13, 2010, 1:43:40 AM2/13/10
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That is interesting, thanks for the feedback.

You did well... I hope WLMail continues to work well for you.

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Peter.R
(Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8089.726 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

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