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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 2:22:10 AM9/14/09
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I have downloaded Windows live mail and my folders for Hotmail appeared so
did my default ISP ones but I thought it would be good to have a live email
addy, is that possible?
thank you
Pippa


Bob Lucas

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If you want an email address @live.com, you will need to use your
web browser to visit http://mail.live.com.

Do not sign into your existing Hotmail account. Instead, sign up
for a new mail account na...@live.com.

Having created the account, you will be able to add it to Windows
Live Mail (as an additional account).


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...winston

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Sep 14, 2009, 6:08:17 PM9/14/09
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To add..
Logon to mail.live.com at least once after new account creation to ensure the folders and Inbox are present prior to adding the new
account in Windows Live Mail.

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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 8:03:49 PM9/14/09
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I clicked on the link and filled in the required fields but now not sure how
to get the my new email address into Windows live. I was taken to Hotmail
site after I did that. What I have in Windows Live program are my Bigpond
folders and the original Hotmail account, they appeared when I downloaded
Windows Live. I feel as though I just have anohter Hotmail account but no
new folders are there, don't I have to go to tools/accounts etc., and add my
new email address. thank you for your help
Pippa
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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 8:19:44 PM9/14/09
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I've just put my information into Windows Live and in the left pane my new
name but up the top it asks me to download the folders before I can use my
new address, when I click on download it tells me it's the wrong password. I
chose a different one to my Hotmail account, was that wrong?
sorry to be dumb
Pippa

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N. Miller

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Sep 14, 2009, 8:41:22 PM9/14/09
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:19:44 +1000, Pippa wrote:

> I've just put my information into Windows Live and in the left pane my new
> name but up the top it asks me to download the folders before I can use my
> new address, when I click on download it tells me it's the wrong password. I
> chose a different one to my Hotmail account, was that wrong?

No, it was not wrong. I have four Hotmail accounts; two in 'hotmail.com'
domain, one each in, 'live.com' domain and 'msn.com' domain. Each has a
separate password.

Best to try logging in to the new account in your browser, and verify that
the password works. Then triple check that you are typing the exact same
email address, and exact same password when setting up the account in
Windows Live Mail.

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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 9:09:10 PM9/14/09
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Do you mean to go to Windows Live site. I re typed it a few times but still
get the message that the email address is either invalid or the password is
invalid. I'll try logging into windows live site again. thank you for
helping me.
Pippa
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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 9:21:23 PM9/14/09
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I had to reset my password and I was supposed to get an email confirming it
but it didn't arrive, still getting the message that my username or password
is invalid. Maybe I should have given my Hotmail address for them to email
me, I must be doing something wrong but I've never had trouble with this
kind of thing before. I'll wait a minute and see what happens. I kinda like
the setup of Windows live so hope I can resolve this issue.

Pippa
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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 9:49:52 PM9/14/09
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I've tried to reset my password again, I put a dot in the send to different
account but was not asked what the account was when I clicked continue. I
wasn't even asked for a secret answer when I registered, so I'm confused and
if I try to re register I'll bet they tell me that my current username is
already taken. What to do now?

Pippa
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Pippa

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Sep 14, 2009, 11:44:20 PM9/14/09
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Would someone please help me, I can't get my account to work

Pippa
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...winston

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Sep 15, 2009, 1:17:04 AM9/15/09
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The process is straight forward.

Using Internet Explorer
Create a new Hotmail account with a different name and password in the ***Web Interface***
https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx
Click on the link 'Or get a Windows Live e-mail address'

Enter a username and select Live.com or Hotmail.com
Click Check Availability
Enter a user password, reenter the password (next line where prompted)
Fill in the rest of the fields(alternate email address or secret question, country, state, birth year)
Enter the 8 special characters shown in the field named 'Characters:'
Click 'I accept'
A new page will load
Click on 'Mail' (top in browser Window) - this will load your web interface email account in your browser
Create a new email message to any email account
Click Send
A yellow prompt will appear at the top (we need to ask you to verify your account')
- click on the 'verify your account'
Enter the 8 special characters shown in the box in the field provided, then click Continue, if entered correctly Click Close
Click on Send(the message will be sent)
Your Live.com or Hotmail account is now setup

Open WLM
Tools/Accounts/Add/Email Account/Next
Enter the same email address and password used to create the account
Click Remember password
Enter a Display Name
Click Next, Click Finish, Click Close
The new email account will be present in WLM left hand pane
Click on the Inbox(the account will sync and 6 folders will be present Inbox, Drafts, Sent, Junk e-mail, Deleted Items)

Your done.

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N. Miller

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Sep 15, 2009, 3:28:46 AM9/15/09
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:09:10 +1000, Pippa wrote:

> Do you mean to go to Windows Live site. I re typed it a few times but still
> get the message that the email address is either invalid or the password is
> invalid. I'll try logging into windows live site again. thank you for
> helping me.

Yes. Question now, is, did you go to the web site to set up the new account?
The "Add e-mail account" link within Windows Live Mail only works if you
already have an email account. If you have not, yet, created an email
account at the web site, the information you added in Windows Live Mail has
no account to find when you try to log in.

Unfortunately, those who wrote the program probably know as much about how
email accounts work as I do, and just assumed the end user would know that
you can't create a new account using Windows Live Mail as a account creation
agent. I don't know of a single, normal POP3/IMAP/SMTP email client which
can act as an account creation agent. Creating accounts is normally
accomplished by going to the email service web site and setting up the
account there.

Pippa

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Sep 15, 2009, 4:24:22 AM9/15/09
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Many thanks, I did create a new account away from the program but I think
because I only put .com and not .com.au it didn't work. When I realized my
mistake the site said it was too late or words to that effect and to try
tomorrow. That seemed strange but will try tomorrow, just hope I can keep
the username I chose and was accepted.

Pippa
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Pippa

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Sep 15, 2009, 4:26:10 AM9/15/09
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Yes, I went to the Windows live site and filled in all the fields but
thinking I didn't put the au after .com so will try again. Thank you very
much.

Pippa
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Pippa

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Sep 15, 2009, 5:29:26 AM9/15/09
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JUst one more thing, don't I have to put in pop3 and all those settings
incoming mail /outgoing mail etc. and the SMTP and incoming pop3 numbers
like Hotmail has.
sorry about all this.

Pippa
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Ron Sommer

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Sep 15, 2009, 8:06:40 AM9/15/09
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Do you want pop access where you only download the online Inbox?
WLMail will access Hotmail using http which will sync the folders not just
the Inbox.
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N. Miller

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:29:26 +1000, Pippa wrote:

> "Pippa" <pi...@hunterlink.com> wrote in message
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>> "N. Miller" <anon...@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:09:10 +1000, Pippa wrote:

>>>> Do you mean to go to Windows Live site. I re typed it a few times but
>>>> still get the message that the email address is either invalid or the
>>>> password is invalid. I'll try logging into windows live site again.
>>>> thank you for helping me.

>>> Yes. Question now, is, did you go to the web site to set up the new
>>> account? The "Add e-mail account" link within Windows Live Mail only
>>> works if you already have an email account. If you have not, yet,
>>> created an email account at the web site, the information you added
>>> in Windows Live Mail has no account to find when you try to log in.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, those who wrote the program probably know as much about
>>> how email accounts work as I do, and just assumed the end user would
>>> know that you can't create a new account using Windows Live Mail as a
>>> account creation agent. I don't know of a single, normal POP3/IMAP/SMTP
>>> email client which can act as an account creation agent. Creating
>>> accounts is normally accomplished by going to the email service web
>>> site and setting up the account there.

>> Yes, I went to the Windows live site and filled in all the fields but

>> thinking I didn't put the au after .com so will try again. Thank you very
>> much.

> JUst one more thing, don't I have to put in pop3 and all those settings

> incoming mail /outgoing mail etc. and the SMTP and incoming pop3 numbers
> like Hotmail has.
> sorry about all this.

With Windows Live Mail, you can just follow the Wizard and create an
HTTPMail account for any Hotmail account. All that changed was a protocol
used by MS Outlook Express. Windows live changed from using something
called, "WebDAV" to using something called, "DeltaSync". MSOE does not
understand "DeltaSync", so "HTTPMail" doesn't work any more. But WLMail does
understand "DeltaSync", so "HTTPMail" continues to function in Windows Live
Mail.

...winston

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Yes..iirc,it logs your ip address or similar thereby limiting creating new accounts to protect against people doing so(multiple
accounts) for spam and undesirable marketing purposes. Wait 24 hrs, then try again.
I don't know if the failed username will be available, it may or may not allow it.

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Pippa

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Hi' everyone,
Finally, today I was able to create my new Windows Live Mail account. Thank
you all for your patience with me I am very grateful. Windows Live Mail
looks a lot like Outlook Express so I am very happy about that. The only
thing is that the interface is very pale, I found the option to change
colours but it's still pale but I guess that is little to complain about. My
Bigpond folders just appeared as did my other Hotmail account which I've
always had.
Many thanks,
Pippa.

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...winston

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Sep 16, 2009, 1:29:34 AM9/16/09
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Well done..Pippa
Glad to read everything worked out for you.

The pale/pastel interface takes a while to get used to..for some it�s a problem(visibility etc), for others not as significant..but
it still would be nice to have more user control.

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Bob Lucas

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Sep 16, 2009, 8:06:03 AM9/16/09
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I'm glad Windows Live Mail is up and running successfully on your
computer.

As you know, many Hotmail subscribers used Outlook Express to
synchronise all of their Hotmail folders with the central server
(using the HTTP WebDav protocol). However, Microsoft
discontinued the HTTP WebDav protocol - so Outlook Express users
were obliged to switch to the Hotmail POP3 server - or use an
alternative mail client that supports the new, HTTP DeltaSync
protocol.

WLMail does support the new HTTP DeltaSync protocol, which would
allow you to synchronise your Hotmail folders (in the same way
that you used to do with Outlook Express). Consequently, you may
need to perform one final step to complete the migration from
Outlook Express.

I assume that WLMail has imported all of your previous mail
account details from Outlook Express. If so, WLMail will
continue to use the server settings from Outlook Express. For
the "other Hotmail account, which you've always had", you will
probably find that WLMail has imported details of the Hotmail
POP3 server. Or even worse, it might have imported details of
the HTTP WebDav server - which won't work at all.

Open WLMail. Scroll down to the Inbox folder for your old
Hotmail account and select all existing messages. Copy the
messages to the Inbox folder in "Storage Folders" (which you will
see, towards the end of your Folder list). That precaution
protects against the loss of messages that you might want to
keep.

Then, re-create your old Hotmail account in WLMail. (Click on
Tools / Accounts / Add... - and follow the account creation
wizard). WLMail will automatically supply the correct details
for the Hotmail HTTP DeltaSync server.

Once you have set up the Hotmail account in WLMail, you will be
able to download all of your folder details. Synchronise all
email accounts and check that all messages from your Hotmail
folders on the central server have downloaded successfully. You
may find that your previous use of the POP3 server has deleted
some messages you want to keep. If so, you should restore them
from the Hotmail Deleted Items folder to your Hotmail inbox.

Once you are satisfied that your old Hotmail account has
synchronised OK, you should delete the POP3 version from WLMail.
You will probably receive a warning that deletion of the account
you will lose all messages from your inbox. That is OK, because
you have previously copied the content of your Hotmail Inbox to
the separate inbox in your storage folders.


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Ron Sommer

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"Or even worse, it might have imported details of the HTTP WebDav server -
which won't work at all." is not correct. Even though the WebDAV server is
shown as being imported, the DeltaSync server is used. If the WebDAV server
were being used there would have been error messages not that WebDAV has
been discontinued.
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...winston

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At an earlier time, it mattered, not now..

The software, like the Outlook Connector handles the http server.

It doesn't much matter what http server is imported, migrated, entered...WLM will use DeltaSync_V2.0 for all Hotmail accounts.

Even http:// will work....Enable logging, with just http:// in the server field, the log will show mail.live.com etc and DeltaSync
being used and any messages outbound and inbound will still be received and sent.

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Bob Lucas

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Sep 17, 2009, 8:21:54 AM9/17/09
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Thank you.

I was not aware of that latest development. Did Microsoft
introduce this enhancement with one of the 2009 releases (WLMail
v14.0.8064.206 or 14.0.8089.0726)?

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...winston

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Bob,
I don't really know the timing....I first noticed it around Sept 1 when WebDAV was retired when those servers as planned didn't
function in OE or Outlook, but continued to function in WLM(migrated or imported).

During a selective private preview for Live Movie Maker, I created a separate Live ID for use on spare drive(laptop)downloading an
installing version 0726 of WLEssentials.(looks like about Aug 11 based on my posting properties...no one even noticed<g>).

I remember playing around with the DeltaSync_v2.0 server changing it to 3 then 9 and it worked on 0726, then pretty much forgot
about doing that until WebDAV ceased.

Once WebDAV was retired....the light finally clicked on, that if the server 3 or 9 worked, then it might not matter if the WebDAV
server was in use either. After reading a few posts 9/1 and after suggesting to correct the server if WebDAV was present, I was
able to verify it by substituting any of the former 3 WebDAV servers, and just about any http://<fill in>. Once verified, I posted
it a few times in this forum.

I don't know if this is permanent or not...but like the Outlook Connector it would be relatively easy for them to implement it at
their end or include in the software. They've obviously been able to determine the email client for some time(it would seem the
marketing folks would like to know what's being used<g>), and they probably wanted to know that same info(who's using what client)
when they started discussing the impact of WebDAV retirement a few years ago and even earlier when WebDAV ceased for free(non
grandfathered) Hotmail accounts.

MSN Premium software(MSn Explorer) would also fit somewhat in that same boat...with 9.6 being required(earlier versions used
WebDAV(thus why change or permit those when they could minimize client proliferation in the same stroke).

If I hear anything concrete that�s permissible to pass on, I'll try to do so.

lol..the above is a perfect example of why beta testing with a closed group of 'winged' testers vs. not doing so with public users
may not always be the best group for testing Live software.....those testers disliked the WLE product's direction(integrated suite,
web interface, network etc) so much that they missed a fair share of the obvious impact on a sizeable population(one being OE and
Outlook WebDAV users with Hotmail accounts)...visibility and text only icons may be issues, but Contacts and Calendar with and
without a Live ID, migration/importing, and synchronization may very well be extremely more important(as the Live Team expected)
and be so for quite some time!

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