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ColTom2

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:38:50 PM11/19/09
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Hi:

How can I open my old saved OE6 emails with file extension .eml with WLM?

Never dreamed I would have this problem of opening prior Microsoft OE6
emails.

Thanks,

ColTom2


Dave

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Just double-click on the .eml file.


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ColTom2

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:03:51 PM11/19/09
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I have doubled clicked on the file and I get an Error Notice saying that
Windows can't open this file. It's asking me to select a program to open the
file. If WLM can't open it then what installed program can?

Or do I have to get another program installed to open it with? If so, what
program?

Thanks,

ColTom2

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ColTom2

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:16:01 PM11/19/09
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I probably should have included I am running Win 7 Home Premium with WLM.

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Bruce Hagen

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What happens when you try? Is WLMail set as default?

Close WLMail. Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and
Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Windows Live
Mail.
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ColTom2

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:11:04 PM11/19/09
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Hi Bruce:

I am running WLM in Win 7. Your instructions I am sure they basically
apply to XP OS with WLM installed.

However, there were no problems in accomplishing what you indicated other
than a different avenue to access them. In Win 7 I go directly from
Start>Default Programs>Set Program Access and Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow
| Select the radio button for Windows Live Mail. It shows a window saying
that it is making WLM as Default and I click OK. But when I go back to see
if change was applied it still shows the check by "Use my current e-mail
program" and the check is not beside WLM. I suppose it's not taking the
change because WLM is in fact the default email program in Win 7. At least
this is the only reason that I can think of.

This of course still leaves me with the problem of not being able to open
.eml files. When I go to Start>Default Programs>Associate a file type or
protocol with a program the file extension .eml is not even listed.

So I am back to square one.....

Hopefully you can come up with an answer.

Thanks,

ColTom2

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N. Miller

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:19:55 PM11/19/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:38:50 -0500, ColTom2 wrote:

> How can I open my old saved OE6 emails with file extension .eml with WLM?
>
> Never dreamed I would have this problem of opening prior Microsoft OE6
> emails.

So. You installed Windows Live Mail in Windows 7 Home Premium. Any other
eamil clients installed?

In Windows 7 you can go to Start | Default Programs, and then set your
defaults there.

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ColTom2

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:38:49 PM11/19/09
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Hi Norman:

WLM came installed with Win7 in Toshiba L455-S5980 laptop. I did not install
it and no other email applications are installed.

ColTom2

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Bruce Hagen

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:41:59 PM11/19/09
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Make sure WLMail is closed when you make the change otherwise the setting
will not stick.
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ColTom2

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:18:23 PM11/19/09
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Hi Bruce:

I rebooted computer and ran Task Manager just to be sure WLM was not open.
It did the same thing saying that it is setting WLM as default application,
but when I immediately reopen it still shows "Use my current e-mail
program" . Again I think the reason it is not taking or sticking is that
WLM is already my default email application. I have tried everything I know,
but can't get it to retain the WLM setting.

Got any more rabbits up your sleeve....

Thanks,

ColTom2


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Bruce Hagen

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1: Where are these eml files? Are they attachments to messages you imported
to WLMail?

2: Control Panel | Programs | Default Programs | Associate a file type or
protocol with a program. Scroll down to .eml. Is Windows Live Mail set as
the Current Default?
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...winston

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Control Panel/Default Programs/Set your Default Programs/
Select Windows Live Mail
Choose Defaults for this program

- is there a check mark in the box adjacent to .eml ?

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Gary VanderMolen (MS MVP)

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The fact that "Set program access and computer defaults" reverts
back to "Use my current program" is not indicative of a problem.
That action is normal for both Vista and Windows 7.

Your primary problem appears to be that the file extension .eml
is not even listed in "Associate a file type or protocol".
Sorry, I don't have any ideas at the moment as to how to get that
file extension listed.

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Bob Lucas

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:41:40 AM11/20/09
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I agree that this problem is almost the result of an incorrect
file association. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to overcome
that particular problem in Win7.

However, looking at the problem from a different angle, I wonder
whether the following workaround might help.

1. Open the folder on the OP's computer that contains the EML
files.

2. Run WLMail. Make sure that the folder window and the
WLMail window are visible at the same time.

3. Drag the EML files into a storage folder in WLMail.

4. Once the emails are in WLMail, double click on them to view
the messages.

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Robert Aldwinckle

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"ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:eUWxYAZa...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Hi Bruce:
>
> I rebooted computer and ran Task Manager just to be sure WLM was not open.
> It did the same thing saying that it is setting WLM as default application,
> but when I immediately reopen it still shows "Use my current e-mail
> program" . Again I think the reason it is not taking or sticking is that
> WLM is already my default email application. I have tried everything I know,
> but can't get it to retain the WLM setting.


So you are definitely seeing an indication that the .msi file
is being run?


Looks like more security/obscurity from Vista and W7. ; ]
After you re-registered WLMail as your default mail client
see if it at least fixed the problem with mailto: and IE's
File, Send, menu. E.g. are those Send by... commands
active in the menu or not?

Also, to check how much WLMail is currently associated
with, open a cmd window and enter this command pipeline:

ftype | find /I "wlmail"

I guess you had also better enter this command too:

assoc .eml

and verify that whatever it shows actually has a file type
with an open action for it--so, hopefully one of the ones
that was listed in the output of the command pipeline.

BTW in the case of

<cmd_output>
E:\>assoc .eml
.eml=Microsoft Internet Mail Message
</cmd_output>

I find it is necessary to check the file type like this:

ftype | findstr "Microsoft.Internet.Mail.Message"

I.e. use a regular expression which matches the (too long?)
file type name which has spaces in it. YMMV.


Finally, are you doing all these Set Defaults commands
as a limited user or as an Administrator? In any case
in order to work around security/obscurity I would at least
try right-click Run as Administrator at the last possible
point before you start executing the .msi file.
Even better I would try doing it in a safe mode
command only boot, logged in as Administrator.
Note that doing that might have the effect of preventing
any "security" tools you might have running normally
which could also interfere with the normal effect of
the Set Defaults re-registration. ; )


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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ColTom2

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:59:47 AM11/20/09
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Hi Bob:

You hit the target as being the only way that I found to open Saved OE6
emails in a local folder with WLM. I had two local folders in XP that I had
saved OE6 emails into to remove them from OE6 and at the same time retain
them.

I also have created additional local folders within WLM i.e. Saved Inbox
Mail and Saved Sent Items Mail and by dragging the selected OE6 emails into
either of these folders I can then open them with no problem.

What I do is when the local folders within OE6 or WLM build up I create
similar folders within My Documents and drag them into these folders and
then afterwards delete them from either OE6 and now WLM to keep these
applications as clean as possible.

Again your recommendations are the only ones that I found that will allow
me to open prior OE6 saved emails.

One other item of note. I finally found a way to set WLM as the
recommended application when I clicked on one of the saved OE6 emails in the
My Documents folders. However, when I click on one of these emails to open
it will open WLM, but NOT display the email.

I have a lot to learn about WLM, but at least you have provided me with a
solution to view the old saved OE6 emails that I transferred from my XP
computer to Win 7.

Thanks so much,

ColTom2

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Bob Lucas

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:32:52 PM11/20/09
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I'm so glad it worked.

I'm still in the Win XP time warp (and very happy there), so I'm
not familiar with the detailed working of Vista or Win 7. In Win
XP, the following steps should solve your latest problem. I
wonder whether you could adopt a similar procedure in Win 7.

Open Control Panel
Click on Folder Options, followed by File Types
In the list of programs, scroll down and select EML
The file type be associated with Windows Live Mail. If it isn't,
change the file association to WLMail.

Now - this is the most important part. You must check that your
computer has been configured to use the correct command line for
opening EML files.

In Win XP, you would click on the Advanced tab to open a page
headed Edit File Type. The list of commands should include
"open". Select the "open" option and if necessary, edit the
command line.

The command line should read -
"C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1 .

(The path to wlmail.exe might be different on your computer. You
must also include the quotation marks in the command line. Also,
note there is a space before /eml:1).

If the "open" command is missing, create it.

Also, check the box marked "Use DDE".

That is one way to do it in Win XP. If Windows 7 is completely
different, you may be able to adapt the instructions.

Another method is to edit the Registry (at your own risk). The
registry of my PC has the following keys with the value -
"C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1

HKCR\Microsoft Internet Mail Message\shell\open\command

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\Microsoft Internet Mail
Message\shell\open\command

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ColTom2

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:03:25 PM11/20/09
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Hi Bob:

I still am at a lost after finally getting WLM associated with .eml files
and then clicking on one of the old OE6 saved .eml files and it opening WLM
without displaying the file.

Oh well.....lots to learn. I have only had Win 7 for a week, but I must in
all fairness say I really like it. And this comes from a desktop XP
MCE(2005) and laptop XP Home Edition owner.

I really am impressed with its speed, as well as significant features.
However, with XP some items were much simpler to access and accomplish.

Thanks again for all your input,

ColTom2


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ColTom2

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Hi Winston:

The problem is that Windows Live Mail is not listed and neither is file
.eml. Sort of a "Catch 22" situation in that you cannot associate a file
name with a program.

Microsoft really needs to take another look at this problem, as it's
unbelievable unless you take extraneous dragging action to try and view an
.eml file with Windows Live Mail.

I now have tried OE6, WLM, MS Office Outlook 2007, and OE6 is still by far
the BEST email application for personal use.

ColTom2

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N. Miller

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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:26:49 -0500, ColTom2 wrote:

> "...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#I0su#aaKHA...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Control Panel/Default Programs/Set your Default Programs/
> Select Windows Live Mail
> Choose Defaults for this program
>
> - is there a check mark in the box adjacent to .eml ?

> The problem is that Windows Live Mail is not listed and neither is file

> .eml. Sort of a "Catch 22" situation in that you cannot associate a file
> name with a program.
>
> Microsoft really needs to take another look at this problem, as it's
> unbelievable unless you take extraneous dragging action to try and view an
> .eml file with Windows Live Mail.

You bought your computer from Toshiba. It came with Windows 7 and Windows
Live Mail pre-installed (and Windows 7 pre-activated) by Toshiba. How is
this Microsoft's problem? I've installed Windows Live Mail under Windows XP
MCE 2005 (two machines) Windows XP Home Edition, and Windows 7. No problems
in all of those cases.

> I now have tried OE6, WLM, MS Office Outlook 2007, and OE6 is still by far
> the BEST email application for personal use.

MS Outlook Express is old, long in the tooth. It was never all that good
(I've tried many, like Pegasus Mail best). The programming team that worked
in it was disbanded in 2006. It was never, "The best"; though it was
respectably good in its day, its day has long passed.

Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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Sounds like your Windows Live Mail wasn't installed properly.
Use the "'Complete' Uninstall/Reinstall Method":
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!226.entry


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...winston

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ColTom2,
I agree with Gary, something is not right with the installation.

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"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e7Z1X3Mb...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> ColTom2,
> I agree with Gary, something is not right with the installation.


It seems that it always is incompletely installed in W7,
as evidenced by the reproducible problem with IE's File, Send, menu.
That's why I suggested re-registering WLMail for this symptom too.


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N. Miller

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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:48:46 -0500, Robert Aldwinckle wrote:

> "...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e7Z1X3Mb...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> I agree with Gary, something is not right with the installation.

> It seems that it always is incompletely installed in W7,
> as evidenced by the reproducible problem with IE's File, Send, menu.
> That's why I suggested re-registering WLMail for this symptom too.

All that it takes for "always" to be wrong is one contradiction.

ColTom2

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Sounds like a lot of work....., but I think that it needs doing.

Thanks,

ColTom2

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ColTom2

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Hi Gary:

I have something strange going on here with your postings. I try and
forward one of your postings such as this one to my email address and it
will show as sent, but it never is received.

I can forward all other postings under this subject to myself except
yours. Like I say they indicate sent; however, they never are received.

Any idea as to why I can't receive yours?

Thanks,

ColTom2

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Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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You're very welcome.


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Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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Sorry, I have no idea why that would happen.


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ColTom2

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Hi Gary:

What's even stranger is that I can't forward any of your postings with OE6
either. So it's not a WLM issue.

Try forwarding one of your postings to yourself and see what happens. As I
say they will appear in your Sent folder, but never received.

Strange....

ColTom2


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Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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Just tested it. I had no trouble forwarding one of my posts to my own email address.
It must be something peculiar to your mail service provider.


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Ildhund

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I just tried forwarding one of Gary's posts and it turned up with no
problem at all. Gary's sig does contain a URL; could your MSP be blocking
messages with included links as an anti-spam measure? Your screen name
could suggest that you're using a military mail server, and we did have a
case last week of messages containing links being blocked by the army.

Now, the burning question - why on earth would you want to forward a
newsgroup post to yourself?
--
Noel

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> What's even stranger is that I can't forward any of your postings with
> OE6 either. So it's not a WLM issue.
>
> Try forwarding one of your postings to yourself and see what happens. As
> I say they will appear in your Sent folder, but never received.
>
> Strange....

> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)" <ga...@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message

> news:%231MDhTa...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, I have no idea why that would happen.

> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message

> news:u9v63cWb...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Gary:
>>
>> I have something strange going on here with your postings. I try and
>> forward one of your postings such as this one to my email address and it
>> will show as sent, but it never is received.
>>
>> I can forward all other postings under this subject to myself except
>> yours. Like I say they indicate sent; however, they never are received.
>>
>> Any idea as to why I can't receive yours?

>> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)" <ga...@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:#H9zRaHb...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Sounds like your Windows Live Mail wasn't installed properly.
>> Use the "'Complete' Uninstall/Reinstall Method":
>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!226.entry

>> "ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message


>> news:OU9XfFFb...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Winston:
>>>
>>> The problem is that Windows Live Mail is not listed and neither is
>>> file .eml. Sort of a "Catch 22" situation in that you cannot associate
>>> a file name with a program.
>>>
>>> Microsoft really needs to take another look at this problem, as it's
>>> unbelievable unless you take extraneous dragging action to try and view
>>> an .eml file with Windows Live Mail.
>>>
>>> I now have tried OE6, WLM, MS Office Outlook 2007, and OE6 is still by
>>> far the BEST email application for personal use.

>>> "...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message

ColTom2

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Hi Noel:

No I am using Comcast and not a military mail server. I am retired
military.....

As to why I would forward of a posting to myself I really have no answer
other than an alternate way to copy a posting.

Thanks for your input.

ColTom2


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I just tried forwarding one of Gary's posts and it turned up with no
problem at all. Gary's sig does contain a URL; could your MSP be blocking
messages with included links as an anti-spam measure? Your screen name
could suggest that you're using a military mail server, and we did have a
case last week of messages containing links being blocked by the army.

Now, the burning question - why on earth would you want to forward a
newsgroup post to yourself?
--
Noel

.

Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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What I do:
Right-click on the newsgroup post, then select "Copy to folder"
and pick one of the custom folders I have under Storage folders.
Forwarding is a more complex process, thus prone to more potential
problems.


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ColTom2

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Hi Gary:

The way of copying to folder is what I normally do, but I was just
screwing around still somewhat bewildered as to why MS would design a new OS
(Win7) and an MS application (WLM) that will not allow you to not open an
.eml file ext outside of WLM.

Blows my mind.....

Happy Thanksgiving!

Tom

P.S. The weather here this morning is just beautiful here in Savannah, GA.
Got up around daylight and got my 3 mile walk in early, as always.

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ColTom2

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Hi:

Below is message that I just submitted to Microsoft for support applicable
this issue and they have assigned it a Support Ticket Number. If I hear
anything positive back or for that matter whatever I hear I will post back
accordingly.

Tom

***************************************
Quote:

Hi:

I just purchased a Toshiba L455-S5980 laptop running Windows 7 with WLM
installed.

I imported some prior emails (.eml file ext) in a folder from a XP Pro
using OE6 computer.

I have tried to open any of these imported emails having .eml file ext
created by OE6 and found that WLM cannot open them. I get a notice to try
and open file with a selected program, but cannot associate .eml files with
WLM so that I can open them.

What I have found out is the only way that I can open one of these
imported .eml files is to drag it into a WLM folder. Once inside WLM I can
open, but outside of WLM I cannot open an .eml file.

I can drag an .eml file out of WLM onto the desktop and then I cannot open
it because of apparently some Win7/WLM file association internal problem.

It's hard to believe that a problem such as this exists with Win 7 and
WLM, but it does. The internet is full of postings trying to find an answer
to this problem.

Hopefully you can provide a solution.

Thanks,

Tom

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Hi:

How can I open my old saved OE6 emails with file extension .eml with WLM?

Never dreamed I would have this problem of opening prior Microsoft OE6
emails.

Thanks,

ColTom2


Nancy Jackman

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Part of my dilemma is that I'd prefer to be able to open .eml and .nws
messages in BOTH OE and WLM.

Is that not possible?

Nancy Jackman

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ColTom2

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That is part of what I am trying to find out. I have only WLM running new
Win7 OS and can't open an .eml file if the file is not contained inside a
WLM folder.

ColTom2


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Nancy Jackman

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Good.

I'd like to just click on an .eml or .nws message and open it with either
WLM or OE, without a lot of extra grief.

I'm using XP SP3.

I can open them in WLM but not OE.

But WLM takes much longer to do the job. Its pace is funereal.

Nancy

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Michael Santovec

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I'm doing that now.

On my system double clicking an EML file opens in WLM. But Right
clicking and selecting Open With gives me the option of either.

You should be able to do the same. If you don't have OE on the Open
with select Choose program there and browse to OE.

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Nancy Jackman

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I've tried that and although OE opens, the EML file does not. I'm just
transferred to the generic default option of open Inbox.

What OS are you using? I'm using XP SP3.

Especially annoying is that I SAVE the EML file from OE and it's on the
Desktop, but then it won't even OPEN with OE.

Nancy

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Robert Aldwinckle

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"ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:46599ECF-EC98-41A6...@microsoft.com...

> why MS would design a new OS (Win7) and an MS application (WLM)
> that will not allow you to not open an .eml file ext outside of WLM.


You can still open an .eml usefully in Notepad
and in some cases even rename (or copy) it
to .mht in order to open it in IE.


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Robert Aldwinckle

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"ColTom2" <noemail...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:9A5D5616-902F-4176...@microsoft.com...

> I have tried to open any of these imported emails having .eml file ext
> created by OE6 and found that WLM cannot open them. I get a notice to try
> and open file with a selected program, but cannot associate .eml files with
> WLM so that I can open them.

And is your File, Send menu enabled yet?
Have you tried re-registering WLMail yet?


Robert Aldwinckle

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"Nancy Jackman" <nanwj...@beaufort.com> wrote in message news:OrOuJF8b...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> I've tried that and although OE opens, the EML file does not. I'm just
> transferred to the generic default option of open Inbox.


That means that the open action for that filetype is just generic
and not what it needs to be for OE to open it, just for OE to open.


>
> What OS are you using? I'm using XP SP3.


Check your current association and filetype open action using a cmd window.

E.g. I have

<cmd_output OS="XPsp3">
E:\>assoc .eml
.eml=Microsoft Internet Mail Message

E:\>ftype | findstr "Microsoft.Internet.Mail.Message"
Microsoft Internet Mail Message="F:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1
</cmd_output>

Note the dots used to make a single term regular expression
in order to display that filetype.

So, I have the same default as you even though
OE is supposedly my default E-mail client.

The reason is that OE updates HKLM values only
while WLMail updates HKCU values.
HKCU values override HKLM values.

Also, evidently OE doesn't create an OE-specific filetype
but WLMail does create an WLMail-specific filetype

<cmd_output>
E:\>ftype | find "eml"
Microsoft Internet Mail Message="F:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1
WLMail.EML="F:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1"
</cmd_output>

BTW I never noticed before that there is a syntax error in there. ; )

This happens every time I reinstall WLMail
so I haven't bothered doing the registry hack
needed to fix it.

But the above point about not having an OE-specific filetype
has just given me an idea: let's create one and then change
the extension's association!

ftype OE.EML="%programfiles%\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /eml:%1

I'm not sure if that syntax is going to work. See earlier comment
about syntax error for WLMail case...

<cmd_output>
E:\>ftype OE.EML="%programfiles%\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /eml:%1
OE.EML="F:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /eml:%1

E:\>ftype | find "eml"
Microsoft Internet Mail Message="F:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1
OE.EML="F:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /eml:%1
WLMail.EML="F:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" /eml:%1"
</cmd_output>

Seems to have been accepted. Now let's activate it...

assoc .eml=OE.EML

And do a search with WS for some .eml and open one...

Ta da! Opens in OE. QED.

Now in contrast, right-click Open with... WLMail does open
an E-mail using WLMail and not just open its main application
window.

Thanks for making me find this. ; )


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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>
> Especially annoying is that I SAVE the EML file from OE and it's on the
> Desktop, but then it won't even OPEN with OE.
>
> Nancy
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:OPqB2e7b...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> I'm doing that now.
>>
>> On my system double clicking an EML file opens in WLM. But Right
>> clicking and selecting Open With gives me the option of either.
>>
>> You should be able to do the same. If you don't have OE on the Open
>> with select Choose program there and browse to OE.

...


Michael Santovec

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I'm using XP SP3.

It seems kind of tricky to get the file associations to work right. You
can try the following.

First get the EML files working with OE.

OLEXP: Unable to Open EML File Attachments in Outlook Express
(Fixing the EML File Association)
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=312355
If the abbreviated command in the above article doesn't work,
then try: Start, Run and enter the following (with the quotation marks):
"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /reg

Then once that's working, reset WLM as your default mail program.

- In Windows Live Mail (WLM) check at Tools, Options, General and make
it the default if it isn't already.

- In Internet Explorer Explorer at Tools, Internet Options, Programs
make sure that WLM is the default e-mail program

- Also, in Windows XP: Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Set Program
Access and Defaults, Custom, Email and select WLM, even if it already
seems to be the default.


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ColTom2

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Hi:

As I previously posted I had contacted MS for assistance. At first the WLM
Team seemed anxious to resolve my problems, but after a few try's
they finally sent me a reply saying that I would have to contact MS
technical support, as they thought it was more than a WLM issue.

There were three main identifying problems:
1. WLM was not listed in Set Default Programs
2. .EML ext was not listed in Registry under string/FileExts
3. .EML ext was not listed in Associate file or protocol with a specific
program.

I accomplished all kinds of action since my original posting including
hacking the Registry to get .eml ext listed, but not correctly I might add,
and finally associating .eml ext with WLM. However, all that I accomplished
never did resolve the issue.

Earlier this afternoon I sent a message back to the WLM team asking for
detail instructions on how to uninstall/reinstall WLM. I have not received a
reply as of this posting.

However, this got me to thinking on how to uninstall WLM. I went to
Uninstall Programs and found WLM was not specifically listed, but Windows
Live Essentials was listed. Knowing that WLM was a component application of
WLE I decided to click on Uninstall feeling it should at least give me a
choice of which application I wanted to uninstall.

This brought up the next screen which gave me a choice to Uninstall or
Repair. I decided at this point why not try the Repair option. When I
clicked on it I did not get an individual application to repair, but it
rather started running a repair on all WLE applications which took a few
minutes or so. Afterwards I received a report of which applications had been
repaired. It repaired four of the applications with WLM being one. Also it
gave you a choice to review repair actions and also indicated WLM was not
Default applicable all functions with the option to make it Default for all.
I selected this option.

I got a notice that a reboot was required and did so. Was I ever
surprised, as this repaired ALL my WLM problems, as noted above, and now it
is fully functional to read ALL .eml file exts. Everything appears to be
normal now applicable all WLE applications.

So if you are having problems such as I had, the first item I recommend
is that you run the repair, as noted above. Hopefully you will have the
success that I had with this repair function which is so simple to
accomplish.

In closing I wish to thank all that made a posting and all the support
efforts that all of you made. It's the "teamwork" of all that makes forums
such as this a success. I just wish that Microsoft would see fit to include
Windows 7 in their Forums and I highly recommend that they do so. It's the
only OS that has never been included within MS Newsgroups. I also feel these
Newsgroups forums have the best expertise of any of the others. However, I
do not want to degrade the others in any manner, as they have some great
knowledge within their ranks.

A BIG salute to all of you!

ColTom2


Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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Good to hear that you got it fixed.
I did post 5 days ago that it sounded like your Windows Live Mail
wasn't installed properly.

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Nancy Jackman

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I tried the same thing but, sadly, it didn't fix my contacts problem.

Nancy

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ColTom2

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Yes Gary I recall you mentioning this and even saved your posting. The
further I went in trying to resolved this issue the more that I thought
about what you had said. I just did not know of an easy way to accomplish
it.

At least now maybe what I have posted will benefit someone else with WLM
issues.

I really appreciate all your replies and postings and especially the one
that you referenced, as it was right on target as to the cause.

Thanks again,

ColTom2


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Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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Nancy, I don't see a problem statement from you in this thread.
You need to give us all the details of your issue.
Also, it is always better to start a new thread rather than reusing
one started by someone else. There are often subtle differences
that require a different solution.


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Nancy Jackman

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Thank you very much, Gary.

I'll do that in the future.

At present, I'm willing to wait for MS software fixes on the "Contacts
Disappearing" problem.

Nancy

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Gary VanderMolen (MVP)

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I believe Microsoft is working on that 'Disappearing Contacts' issue.
Hopefully that problem will be fixed in the next release of Windows Live Mail.


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Nancy Jackman

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I hope for that too -- devoutly.

Nancy

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