Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre
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Hello All,
I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that have
started on this thread.
Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We are
doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox sizes.
Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen within DAV.
DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to efficiently handle large
accounts.
This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False. Hotmail
customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other clients such
as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage against Hotmail, it
is not the single choice for connection. You will also be able to continue
full access through your browser.
Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to the new
OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is available
through your browser.
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Scott Hammer
Sr. Supportability Program Manager
Windows Live Mail Technologies
Microsoft Corporation
Gary VanderMolen
mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for that
option.
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Steffo
Thanks,
Steffo
Gary VanderMolen wrote:
> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
> mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for
> that option.
>
>
Gary VanderMolen
http://get.live.com/en-us/mailplus/features
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How to Configure Pop3/Smtp for Hotmail Plus and Legacy Pop3 accounts
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!171.entry
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Self corrected shortly thereafter.
The content is included below
<qp>
To correct myself...
Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other
clients such as Thunderbird.
I meant Hotmail PLUS customers are able to utilize POP3 as they currently
do...
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Windows Live Mail Technologies
Microsoft Corporation
"Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
<WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport
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"Gary VanderMolen" <ga...@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uKMBp7Kp...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Steffo
I'm a Hotmail Plus subscriber.
I followed the instructions but I can only receive and not send: what can I
try to do to fix that?
Thank you.
Steff
...winston wrote:
> To add to Gary's response..
> How to Configure Pop3/Smtp for Hotmail Plus and Legacy Pop3 accounts
> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!171.entry
>
>
>
...winston
Care to elaborate ?
O/S, email client, AV software, firewall, email scanning turned on, error message, etc..
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Earle Horton
Internet for one it won't work.
Earle
"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Robert Reed
function as of June 30? What about MSN Explorer?
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StephenB
The Outlook Connector will be required for Outlook 2003 and 2007. MSN Explorer
will need an update under the hood.
-steve
"Robert Reed" <nos...@msn.com> wrote:
>Will the "HTTP" interface in Outlook 2002, 2003 & 2007 also cease to
>function as of June 30? What about MSN Explorer?
>
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>"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Gary,
>> Self corrected shortly thereafter.
>> The content is included below
>>
>> <qp>
>> To correct myself...
>> Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other
>> clients such as Thunderbird.
>>
>> I meant Hotmail PLUS customers are able to utilize POP3 as they currently
>> do...
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Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sbo...@mvps.org
Steffo
I can receive all emails but when I reply or create a new email, I get an
error saying my settings are not correct or I have no signal.
I also have another POP email account (from my server provider Bluewin) in
there and it works just fine.
I think the problem is in the port settings: I cannot find where to set
them.
By the way, I'm using Outlook Express and I can perfectly use Hotmail as a
POP account as well as in the OE interface.
Please, I'd be really happy to try all suggestions.
Thank you and best regards.
Steffo
...winston wrote:
> Without any additional information, assuming your settings are
> correct can't even attempt to answer that. Care to elaborate ?
> O/S, email client, AV software, firewall, email scanning turned on,
> error message, etc..
>
Sportsluvr
If I'm a Hotmail Plus member (paying the $20 each year) since approx 2001 or
2002, am I now able to set-up POP/SMTP access for my Hotmail account (e.g.
na...@hotmail.com) in Outlook Express. Been using the http access in Outlook
Express.
Asking b/c the link provided by another participant in this discussion
threads that provided POP/SMTP server settings for Outlook Express seems to
mention elibilibility for 'hotmail plus members' on 9/21/07.
That is, only those who signed up for Hotmail Plus after 9/21/07 are only
eligible to use POP access in Outlook Express, or are ALL Hotmail Plus
members eligible??
Thanks in advance for clarifying-
:)
Ildhund
http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!44348.entry
You should be good to go.
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"Sportsluvr" <Sport...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Ildhund
in the same blog post* where he announced POP3 access for Hotmail Plus
users - that "we have plans to offer POP to all users (all premium and free)
but we aren't ready to do that yet. I can't comment on a timeframe for when
free users will get POP, but we hope to do so within the next 12 months."
Do you have inside information that this is not true?
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Noel
* http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!44348.entry
"StephenB" <sbo...@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> To the best of my knowledge, all Hotmail Plus! users have POP/SMTP access
> to
> their Hotmail accounts. This was part of the upgrade on the back end to
> Windows
> Live Hotmail. At one point, it was mentioned that plans for everyone to
> have
> access via POP/SMTP were being worked on, but that was apparently
> incorrect
> information.
> -steve
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> Stephen Boots
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
> sbo...@mvps.org
...winston
Accounts Qualifying
MSN Legacy Pop3 - Dialup or Bring Your Own ISP(as of 1997)
Windows Live HotMail Plus (effective Sept 21, 2007)
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!171.entry
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"Sportsluvr" <Sport...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:146C0555-FE3A-4732...@microsoft.com...
...winston
next 12 months. "
This Msft stockholder thinks it would be nice to get some of those iPhone pop3 compatible users on Hotmail instead of Google. :)
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...winston
The two key words in that statement were 'we hope'.
Hope may be resolute, but not necessarily absolute.
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
the end of free access to Hotmail accounts in OE and OL:
Ildhund wrote:
> On 21 September last year, Lead Hotmail Program Manager Omar Shahine
> wrote -
> in the same blog post* where he announced POP3 access for Hotmail Plus
> users - that "we have plans to offer POP to all users (all premium and
> free)
> but we aren't ready to do that yet. I can't comment on a timeframe for
> when
> free users will get POP, but we hope to do so within the next 12 months."
> Do you have inside information that this is not true?
>
Ildhund
something authoritative at the Summit or elsewhere to persuade him to write
"... it was mentioned that plans for everyone to have access via POP/SMTP
were being worked on, but that was apparently incorrect information"? This
statement is suggesting, after all, that either Omar thought his team were
working on plans to introduce POP for free accounts, but they weren't, or
that he knew they weren't and lied about it to Liveside and on his blog.
Neither of these sounds credible - which is why I asked whether Steve knew
something we didn't.
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Ildhund wrote:
> Yep, seen them. My question to Steve remains unanswered, though. Did he
> hear
> something authoritative at the Summit or elsewhere to persuade him to
> write
> "... it was mentioned that plans for everyone to have access via POP/SMTP
> were being worked on, but that was apparently incorrect information"? This
> statement is suggesting, after all, that either Omar thought his team were
> working on plans to introduce POP for free accounts, but they weren't, or
> that he knew they weren't and lied about it to Liveside and on his blog.
> Neither of these sounds credible - which is why I asked whether Steve knew
> something we didn't.
>
StephenB
Omar thought that it was when he wrote that post. We'll have to wait and see and
sorry if I led you to believe that I had any solid information on future plans
or even current work in this area. My response was based on conversations and
shared opinions with non-Microsoft people and I guess we were all speculating.
-steve
"Ildhund" <jn...@removemsn.com> wrote:
>Yep, seen them. My question to Steve remains unanswered, though. Did he hear
>something authoritative at the Summit or elsewhere to persuade him to write
>"... it was mentioned that plans for everyone to have access via POP/SMTP
>were being worked on, but that was apparently incorrect information"? This
>statement is suggesting, after all, that either Omar thought his team were
>working on plans to introduce POP for free accounts, but they weren't, or
>that he knew they weren't and lied about it to Liveside and on his blog.
>Neither of these sounds credible - which is why I asked whether Steve knew
>something we didn't.
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StephenB
POP/SMTP plans that I can't share. Sorry if my prior response sounded
authoritative - it was based on speculative opinion and observation.
-steve
Mark L. Ferguson
understand the MS relationship with MVP's (and everyone else, basically). MS
calls the MVP group a "SIG" or "Special Interest Group". This is a a part of
PR (Public Relations, or as they call it MSFT, the Microsoft Fulfillment
Team) No "NDA" (Non Disclosure Agreement) will EVER be announced by MSFT.
Get used to it. These guys want their jobs. (They pay just fine ( : ) )
If POP3 is possible, I don't doubt it will be offered. ( The "Google gmail
experiment" will probably have a lot to do with that) I clearly remember the
occasion when MSN offered "Comic Books" on their site, at a time when the
'pipe' was 'small' to say the least. It crashed the system, big time.
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"StephenB" <sbo...@mvps.org> wrote in message
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Ildhund
we didn't, which could have persuaded many people to sign up for Hotmail
Plus in the belief that POP access for free accounts was definitely not on
the immediate horizon (i.e. before the end of this year). It's also
significant, I think, that Hotmail Plus has apparently over the past couple
of weeks become available in many markets where it wasn't before, or not
readily at any rate. Perhaps Liveside or somebody should ask Omar whether
there's been any change in the plans he spoke of last September.
Whatever happens, the past two years' turmoil in the Hotmail world has
undoubtedly frightened many users away, and it will be interesting to see
the effect on Hotmail's market share.
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"StephenB" <sbo...@mvps.org> wrote in message
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
information? <VBEG>]
StephenB
>[Is it a violation of the NDA to say that you don't have any NDA
>information? <VBEG>]
I don't know - we may need a ruling on that. <g>
-steve
StephenB
simply speculation.
I do hope that someone officially clarifies the information that was posted by
Omar on the blog when the POP/SMTP access for paid accounts was made available.
-steve
"Ildhund" <jn...@removemsn.com> wrote:
>Fair enough. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thought you knew something
>we didn't, which could have persuaded many people to sign up for Hotmail
>Plus in the belief that POP access for free accounts was definitely not on
>the immediate horizon (i.e. before the end of this year). It's also
>significant, I think, that Hotmail Plus has apparently over the past couple
>of weeks become available in many markets where it wasn't before, or not
>readily at any rate. Perhaps Liveside or somebody should ask Omar whether
>there's been any change in the plans he spoke of last September.
>
>Whatever happens, the past two years' turmoil in the Hotmail world has
>undoubtedly frightened many users away, and it will be interesting to see
>the effect on Hotmail's market share.
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Earle Horton
heard about the blog and the pop3 access I tried it with my Qwest DSL and it
worked. There is still no official clarification from either Qwest or
Microsoft on how that fits in their vision for MSN/Live/Hotmail. If Omar is
still even in that job...
Cheers,
Earle
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