Re: Importing Outlook pst file
Leen
"Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechF...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
> My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
Doesn't File | Import | Messages etc work?
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If you want web-based email, choose a provider who offers that.
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"Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechF...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
> Is there any plan to make WLM webbased so we can access from different
> computers all around the world?
> That would be a very nice product!
...winston
accounts and contacts accessible in WLM are also accessible via the Hotmail user web based interface(mail.live.com formerly
hotmail.com)
WLM does not sync email and contacts with standard pop3 email accounts, those most isp's that provide pop3 accounts also provide a
web based user interface for sending and retrieving mail and accessible from different internet capable computers on the planet.
Contact sync with the home-based local email client is usually not an option.
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...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail
"Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechF...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
> My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
Andrew Niklaus
web-based WLM?
Well, if you say that WLM is only for web-based HTTP email accounts and
such ---- then why DID Microsoft "forced" the replacement of my two
computers' Outlook Express with Live Mail Desktop (client)? All my POP3
accounts, as previously defined in OE, were transferred across - and now I
have a long list (left side pane) of these accounts. When I ran Live
Messenger, and accepted the prompt to download WLM Desktop, I did not
realise that that would meant the replacement of OE with WLM.
After the WLM<OE replacement, I found that I could not even retrieve old
messages from .DBX files. Until last week, I could retrieve mail merely by
creating a new folder in the same filename as the old DBX archive file I
want to access. Exit Outlook Express, swap the files around, open OE again
and presto, I could view all archived messages in that particular DBX file.
Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO NOT
offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you, this is also what OE
did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE accounts (i.e.
Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files associated with that OE user name).
In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM desktop?!
Likewise for "Dirk TechFactory" wanting to retrieve / import his PST files?
- Andrew
"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ildhund
"Andrew Niklaus" <pci...@auslan.plus.com> wrote in message
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> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to the
> web-based WLM?
This newsgroup is dedicated to the mail and news client called Windows Live
Mail (which I choose to abbreviate to WLMail to avoid confusion with Windows
Live Messenger). It used to have the "desktop" suffix, but that was dropped
almost a year ago even though it lives on in the name of this forum. Beta
versions of what is now known as Windows Live Hotmail were for a time known
as Windows Live Mail, but no longer. I suppose that that is the "web-based
WLM" you refer to.
> Well, if you say that WLM is only for web-based HTTP email accounts and
> such ----
winston said that "Windows Live Mail only synchronizes mail and contacts
with web based Http accounts (Msn, Live, and Hotmail.com)." The operative
word here is "synchronizes", meaning that the client replicates what is on
the server and vice versa - including sent mail, junk, contacts and so on.
IMAP accounts synchronize messages, too, but POP3/SMTP are one-way services
to receive and send mail respectively.
> then why DID Microsoft "forced" the replacement of my two computers'
> Outlook Express with Live Mail Desktop (client)?
As you say later on, you elected to install WLMail; when you did so, it
tried to establish itself as your default email and news client, which was
presumably Outlook Express previously. It has not 'replaced' OE, just
removed the shortcuts to it from your Start menu etc. You can always start
it from All programs or by running msimn.exe, and you can run it
concurrently with WLMail - although I can't see why anyone would want to.
Just make sure that your settings on the Advanced tab of each account's
Properties sheet are as you want them if you want to download POP mail to
both clients.
> After the WLM<OE replacement, I found that I could not even retrieve old
> messages from .DBX files. Until last week, I could retrieve mail merely by
> creating a new folder in the same filename as the old DBX archive file I
> want to access. Exit Outlook Express, swap the files around, open OE again
> and presto, I could view all archived messages in that particular DBX
> file.
I have not tried importing messages from OE, but others have had no problem
with it. You have Storage folders in WLMail (View > Layout > Folder pane >
Show Storage folders) precisely to provide somewhere to archive messages. In
File > Import > Messages, you can specify which folders to import. You may
want to compact the OE folders before trying the Import function - this will
rectify many corruptions in the .dbx files, which is one of the reasons why
WLMail stores each message as a separate .eml file. Corruption will then
only affect that one file, not a whole database like .dbx.
Once you have imported all your old messages into WLMail and learnt to find
your way around it, you can forget about OE.
--
Noel
...winston
--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail
"Andrew Niklaus" <pci...@auslan.plus.com> wrote in message news:13tv0ub...@corp.supernews.com...
> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to the
web-based WLM
Yes..this newsgroup is for Windows Live Mail(WLM), the desktop name(applied to the beta) and was dropped in Nov 2007.
The web based interface is Windows Live Hotmail(WLH not WLM) and discussion on Hotmail and Msn topics can be found here:
Nntp:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.msn.discussion
or
Web-interface: Http
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.msn.discussion
> Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO NOT offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you,
> this is also what OE did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE accounts (i.e. Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files
> associated with that OE user name).
>
> In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM desktop?!
Afaik, OE dbx files cannot be individually imported...though you may be able to fool WLM by creating a separate identity in OE void
of any other content, create a user folder if necessary of the same name as that used in the old OE identity(thereby creating a
blank dbx file of the same filename, then copy the single dbx file to the new OE store replacing the automatically created dbx file.
Copy the entire store contents(dbx and folders.dbx) to a different location on your hard drive then use WLM's
File/Import/Messages/Browse option to navigate(to the different location). Ymmv.
If the messages come in fine, then if necessary create a user folder in your email account and drag the messages out of the Imported
Folders subfolder into the user created folder. YMMV.
Andrew Niklaus
Now I see that individual emails are saved as separate .EML files in the
WLM mail store. In a way, I am much in favour of that - given past
experience of corrupted DBX files from time to time. I have since used
Google Groups to locate a few other messages in this newsgroup,
specifically R. C. White's reply on 19th March 2008 on another thread
- describing the DBX files as independent of WLM files, so on.
Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
file, whose size is 652MB.
I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported) from
Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have a
single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.
I will check this newsgroup later to check past threads about how big
the Mail.MSMessageStore file can "safely" grow.
For my situation, I will either look for 3rd party software capable of
retrieving mails from DBX files as WLM-importable messages - or simply
use my old computer (Windows XP) to run msimn.exe to recreate Outlook
Express folders (what I've done in the past) as a new identity. Thence
import that into my existing (a week old as of now) WLM desktop <a.k.a.
the Mail.MSMessageStore file> using the WLM menu commands -
merging my main WLM (nee OE) identity with those old archives.
Looks like I must use WLM's Export > Messages > MS WLM option
to "backup" my WLM messages to a separate folder for archiving
purposes. I can't find any mention in WLM's Help file for archiving.
- Andrew
"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ildhund
> Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
> Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
> held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
> file, whose size is 652MB.
>
> I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported)
> from
> Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have
> a
> single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
> individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.
No, not quite. I think that if you look again, you'll find that your Store
folder contains more folders than those for each POP account. You should
find these newsgroup postings, for example, as .nws files in
appropriately-named folders. In Storage folders, you should see Recovered or
Imported items, which will contain individual .eml files for each of your
hundreds of imported messages. The MessageStore file also contains all your
messages in an indexed database - belt and braces. I haven't heard of any
problems with an overlarge MessageStore like people had with .dbx files. If
the MessageStore goes wrong, the program will reconstruct it from the
individual message files.
> Looks like I must use WLM's Export > Messages > MS WLM option
> to "backup" my WLM messages to a separate folder for archiving
> purposes. I can't find any mention in WLM's Help file for archiving.
That's as good a way as any. I just maintain a backup copy of my Store
folder on an external drive.
--
Noel
Andrew Niklaus
Now I see that individual emails are saved as separate .EML files in the
WLM mail store. In a way, I am much in favour of that - given past
experience of corrupted DBX files from time to time. I have since used
Google Groups to locate a few other messages in this newsgroup,
specifically R. C. White's reply on 19th March 2008 on another thread
- describing the DBX files as independent of WLM files, so on.
Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
file, whose size is 652MB.
I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported) from
Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have a
single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.
I will check this newsgroup later to check past threads about how big
the Mail.MSMessageStore file can "safely" grow.
For my situation, I will either look for 3rd party software capable of
retrieving mails from DBX files as WLM-importable messages - or simply
use my old computer (Windows XP) to run msimn.exe to recreate Outlook
Express folders (what I've done in the past) as a new identity. Thence
import that into my existing (a week old as of now) WLM desktop <a.k.a.
the Mail.MSMessageStore file> using the WLM menu commands -
merging my main WLM (nee OE) identity with those old archives.
Looks like I must use WLM's Export > Messages > MS WLM option
to "backup" my WLM messages to a separate folder for archiving
purposes. I can't find any mention in WLM's Help file for archiving.
- Andrew
"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:FBF43110-3984-4AB8...@microsoft.com...
Andrew Niklaus
Well, if you say that WLM is only for web-based HTTP email accounts and
such ---- then why DID Microsoft "forced" the replacement of my two
computers' Outlook Express with Live Mail Desktop (client)? All my POP3
accounts, as previously defined in OE, were transferred across - and now I
have a long list (left side pane) of these accounts. When I ran Live
Messenger, and accepted the prompt to download WLM Desktop, I did not
realise that that would meant the replacement of OE with WLM.
After the WLM<OE replacement, I found that I could not even retrieve old
messages from .DBX files. Until last week, I could retrieve mail merely by
creating a new folder in the same filename as the old DBX archive file I
want to access. Exit Outlook Express, swap the files around, open OE again
and presto, I could view all archived messages in that particular DBX file.
Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO NOT
offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you, this is also what OE
did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE accounts (i.e.
Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files associated with that OE user name).
In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM desktop?!
Likewise for "Dirk TechFactory" wanting to retrieve / import his PST files?
- Andrew
"...winston" <winst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ron Sommer
"Andrew Niklaus" <pci...@auslan.plus.com> wrote in message
news:13u9v71...@corp.supernews.com...
> many thanks to Ildhund and Winston for their time replying.
>
> Now I see that individual emails are saved as separate .EML files in the
> WLM mail store. In a way, I am much in favour of that - given past
> experience of corrupted DBX files from time to time. I have since used
> Google Groups to locate a few other messages in this newsgroup,
> specifically R. C. White's reply on 19th March 2008 on another thread
> - describing the DBX files as independent of WLM files, so on.
>
> Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
> Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
> held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
> file, whose size is 652MB.
>
> I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported)
> from
> Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have
> a
> single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
> individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.
Your presumption is not correct.
Each account has a folder and Storage folders has a folder.
Imported messages are eml files in folders in Storage folders.
"Mail.MSMessageStore" is a database of all the messages in WLM.
--
Ronald Sommer
R. C. White
You've covered a lot of ground here, so I won't try to respond to all of it.
Just a couple of items...
> Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
> Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
> held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
> file, whose size is 652MB.
Maybe you are looking at .eml files and don't recognize them because you've
not changed Vista's default setting in Folder Options to "Hide extensions
for known file types". And the .eml files have computer-generated names.
For example, a couple of messages from my grandson are listed as
"5C2C3F14-00000002" and "5DF85720-00000004.eml", with Hide extensions turned
off for the first example.
To change these default settings, in Windows Explorer, click Tools | Folder
Options | View. (If you don't see the Tools button, you probably have left
the Menu Bar hidden. Press Alt to see it temporarily, or Organize | Layout
| Menu Bar to turn it on permanently, which I recommend.) One of the first
things I do after installing any version of Windows or Vista is to change
this Hide extensions setting because it is a favorite way for a virus file
to hide its true nature. Having the extensions hidden is stupid and
dangerous, in my opinion!
(While you are in Folder Options, you might also want to click Show hidden
files and folders. And I always uncheck "Hide protected operating system
files (Recommended)"; you may want to leave this one checked.)
All these .eml files are in subfolders inside that "Mail.MSMessageStore"
folder. You have to drill down a couple of layers deeper to see them. The
first layer of subfolders should include one for each Mail Account and News
Account. Pick a Mail Account and look inside. You should see folders for
Deleted Items, Inbox, etc. Look in Inbox. You should see all your current
Inbox contents, all with those non-descriptive names like those above. But
if you have the Details Pane turned on (click Organize | Layout to turn it
on), the Subject line and other information about that message file should
appear.
> I will check this newsgroup later to check past threads about how big
> the Mail.MSMessageStore file can "safely" grow.
There is no limit that I know of to the size of the Store file, except for
the size of your hard disk, of course. My own Store is about 2 GB and I
doubt that is anywhere close to a record.
> single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
> individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.
I assume this is a simple typo, since there never was an "OE7".
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
r...@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
"Andrew Niklaus" <pci...@auslan.plus.com> wrote in message
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Ron Sommer
In that folder are some .sqm files, log files, Mail.MSMessageStore file, and
various folders.
Each mail account has a folder. There are folders in the mail account
folder that contain the .eml files.
Each newsgroups server has a folder.
Storage folders is a folder.
In my setup, Mail.MSMessageStore is a file, not a folder.
--
Ronald Sommer
"R. C. White" <r...@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, Andrew.
snipped>
> All these .eml files are in subfolders inside that "Mail.MSMessageStore"
> folder. You have to drill down a couple of layers deeper to see them.
> The
> first layer of subfolders should include one for each Mail Account and
> News
> Account. Pick a Mail Account and look inside. You should see folders for
> Deleted Items, Inbox, etc. Look in Inbox. You should see all your
> current
> Inbox contents, all with those non-descriptive names like those above.
> But
> if you have the Details Pane turned on (click Organize | Layout to turn it
> on), the Subject line and other information about that message file should
> appear.
>
snipped>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> r...@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
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zh...@datanumen.net
> "Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFact...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> messagenews:691291FD-E0FA-4CB1...@microsoft.com...
>
> > Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
> > My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
>
> Doesn't File | Import | Messages etc work?
>
> --
>
> Have a nice day!
> Leen
> For free tools and information to burn an iso file to CD , DVD , HD DVD ,
> Blu-Rayhttp://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm(updated 3/11/2008)
Hi,
After having tried various of methods without improvement, you can
have a try to use special utility to repair your Outlook Express dbx
file. I know one, called Advanced Outlook Express Repair.
Fortunately , It worked rather well for my corrupt Outlook Express dbx
files last time. I think it may be helpful to you. You can download it
from the following address .Its web address is http://www.datanumen.com/aoer/
Alan
rober...@bellsouthnospam.net
<zh...@datanumen.net> wrote in message
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Hi,
Alan
--
Outlook and Outlook Express are not the same program, and programs to
repair the database files from one of them will seldom work on database
files for the other.
...winston
All efforts are appreciated...but :)
Tools are specific to an application. The site you've referenced is specific to OE dbx/mbx files and no other program.
Additionally, in case it was overlooked(Subject), the original question was on Outlook, a component of Microsoft Office, not
Outlook Express or WLM(the primary email application in this newsgroup).
--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail
<zh...@datanumen.net> wrote in message news:083466d9-e128-45a5...@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On 3月18日, 上午3时27分, "Leen" <ms_windows_2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFact...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> messagenews:691291FD-E0FA-4CB1...@microsoft.com...
>
> > Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
> > My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
>
> Doesn't File | Import | Messages etc work?