Synchronize mail between two computers
N
is not exactly the same.
I have 2 computers: a desktop and a laptop. With my desktop (Vista x64) I
download my e-mails (no gmail or hotmail, a commercial provider), using
Windows Live Mail. I store the mails on the desktop. In total it is ca.
10,000 e-mails (received + sent, together around 6 Gb) over the years; I
tell you this so you can understand that leaving the mails with the provider
is no option.
On a daily basis I synchronize my documents between the desktop and the
laptop. I travel a lot for my work, and I am usually at places where no
internet is available. So then I cannot download any new mail, but that is
not a big problem. I do want to be able to read my old e-mails, since I am
in need of them many times.
For that reason I installed Windows Live Mail on my laptop (Windows XP), and
the program runs well. I use a backup program (SyncBackSE) to copy all
e-mails from the desktop to the laptop, expecting to be able to read them on
the laptop. However, the laptop version of Windows Live Mail does not show
any of them.
Is there some way to solve this problem? I don't need to be able to receive
or send any new e-mails with the laptop. I just want to be able to read the
mails that I received or sent with the desktop, using the laptop when I am
not at home.
So, what can I do? E.g., is there a clever way to connect certain folders on
both computers (using the backup program) so that I can read the mails on
the laptop?
Niko
Michael Walraven
There is Windows Live Sync that allows folders on multiple machines to be
synchronized. Problem might be that more than just the folders would need to
be synced to enable both email programs to see the same thing. (I just don't
know). The sync only happens when BOTH machines are on line however.
On my machine (Win 7, Windows Live Mail) the message store is located at
c:\Users\<name>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
Using Windows live sync to sync this folder 'MIGHT' be what you need.
Michael
"N" <n...@planet.nl> wrote in message
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Michael Santovec
If just eh underlying EML files, that won't make them visible in WLM.
There's an index file Mail.MSMessageStore that tracks what messages are
in what folders as well as other information about them such as if they
are read, what account downloaded them, etc.
I don't know if copying that file as well would be sufficient as there
are related log files for recovery purposes.
--
Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
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N. Miller
No clever way to connect email folders that doesn't entail some risk of data
corruption; Windows Live Mail is not a "network aware" application.
Probably the easiest way would be to open a Gmail account (assumes you are
willing to trust Google with your data). Configure the account for IMAP
access. Configure Windows Live Mail (on the desktop) to access the Gmail
account using IMAP. Copy (not move) your email messages from the desktop to
IMAP folders at Gmail. Configure Windows Live Mail (on the laptop) to access
IMAP folders at Gmail.
You won't need to use the Gmail email address for anything other than
account access. You can send/receive using your normal servers on the
desktop, and receive, from Gmail, on the laptop. You could even configure
your Gmail account for POP3 aggregation (Gmail downloads your email, and you
access Gmail from either computer using IMAP).
This would work in a similar fashion for any provider offering a combination
of IMAP access and POP3 aggregation; so, if you don't trust Google, you can
look for another provider offering comparable services.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
N
First it appeared to be impossible to copy the index file (and some other
files), as they were "in use" by Explorer (on the laptop).
So I used Unlocker, which made it possible to delete the blocked files and
replace them by the ones from the desktop.
(That's not an elegant solution, but I just wanted to know if it would
work.)
But when I started WLM on the laptop, a message told me:
"The message store has been corrupted. Windows Live Mail has been able to
successfully recover from this corruption".
After that, no e-mail messages were present.
I don't know how WLM found out that something was not allright...
Any idea what can be done better, in this directiuon?
Niko
"Michael Santovec" <michael_...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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N
whether it works.
I'll be back.
Niko
"Michael Walraven" <mexxwa...@verizon.not> wrote in message
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Michael Walraven
I was kind of expecting that it might not work, the mail program is just not
set up for multiple access to the database at the same time.
If you turned off both email programs, then manually synced that might make
it work as the files would not be busy, however that would be a large pain
and risk forgetting to turn them off and thereby corrupt the index/email.
Along the lines of another poster. If I had your requirement I would set my
free Microsoft account to aggregate the mail from my other accounts and then
sync my local email clients to just that one account. xxxx.msn accounts for
instance permit an 'unlimited' amount of storage and are free. I don't think
10,000 emails would be a problem. (there is a limit on the amount that can
be added in a short period of time).
Michael
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N
I am sorry that I did not react to the replies anymore. All of a sudden I
was brought to a hospital and had an emergency surgery, which saved my life.
But now I am back, and I can try to continue this thread.
Let me explain my question some more, based on the reactions that were sent.
Webmail, IMAP, etc., are not an option for me, for 2 reasons.
1. When I am reading the e-mail on the laptop, this is usually when I am
travelling, e.g. in a train, an airplane, a hotel, etc. In those situations,
I usually am not online, and so webmail would not help me.
2. The total volume of my e-mail is about 6 Gb. That is because it is the
e-mail of a lot of years, and all these messages are important for me to
keep and - every now and then - to read again. Now, my provider offers
webmail and IMAP, but not for a total size of 6 Gb.
I don't need to receive or send e-mail from my laptop. I just want to be
able to read messages that I sent or received in the past. So actually I
don't need the full capacity of an e-mail application. All I need is an
e-mail reader.
I don't know if such an application exists, and if I cannot find it, I will
have to use WLM on the laptop. That is ok for me, apart from the fact that
synchronizing between the 2 computers does not work. When I sync between the
2 (using SyncBackSE), backing up the files (i.e. the e-mail messages and
other files, like the database files) to the laptop, and next start WLM on
the laptop, it tells me that the files are corrupt.
I have not yet tried Windows Live Sync. Would that offer me what I am
looking for. do you think?
Niko
"N" <n...@planet.nl> wrote in message
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N
I just tried Windows Live Sync. But this does not work. It has a maximum of
20,000 files to be synched. And in my mail folders, there is a total of
about 25,000 files.
Besides, the synching goes through the internet instead of through my local
network, which makes it extremely slow: even though I have a fast internet
connection, it can never compete with my local network, of course.
Another reason why I expect that it will not be a solution is, that it
does - I think - exactly the same that SyncBackSE does: copy the files from
the mail folder on my main computer to the mail folder of the laptop. This I
can do already, so WL Sync does not add anything new here.
What I don't understand is the following. I copy each and every file of the
mail folder (including, as far as I know, database files, system files etc.)
from the main computer to the laptop.
So I would expect that WLM on the laptop would be fooled into believing they
are its own files. But it is NOT. When I backup the files to the laptop and
next start WLM on it, every time it tells me that the files are corrupt, and
starts to recover the database. But how does it KNOW?
Niko
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Ron Sommer
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MS MVP-Mail
"N" <n...@planet.nl> wrote in message
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Ildhund
There are reasons why you cannot just copy a WLMail message store (that is,
the folders containing the individual message files along with the database
file and its associated log files, files containing account details and a
few other things) from one machine to another. Anything which is encrypted
(like passwords) uses a key based on the Windows user account containing
it. And the program uses Registry data to administer itself, and some of
these will vary from one installation to another. So that's not going to
work
I do think that Michael Walraven's suggestion - use Hotmail's storage, sync
and POP aggregation - is the one most likely to achieve your aim. The
initial setup will take some time, but after that a simple sync on your
laptop should ensure that its local store of messages is complete and up to
date. It's quick and easy to set up a Hotmail account, and you will have
immediate access to as much storage there as you need. I suppose that your
10,000 messages are sorted into folders. This might present a problem,
because Hotmail does not allow for nested folders (folders within folders).
But careful naming of your folders should get around that. I would create
new folders in the web UI and wait until they appear in WLMail on both
machines before moving archived messages into them.
I would suggest that you at least give it a trial with a subset of your
messages. If it seems to work - and there's no reason why it shouldn't -
then you could go ahead and implement the solution for all your stored
messages. If you really don't like it for some reason, you could just empty
your Hotmail folders and forget about it. The account will eventually lapse
and become history.
--
Noel
"N" <n...@planet.nl> wrote in message
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Gary Anderson
My primary PC is a WinXP desktop. My traveling PC was an old WinXP ThinkPad laptop. When at home, I pull down email with the desktop, never the laptop. When traveling, I pull down email from the laptop and the desktop at home is powered down not being used. When my email client was Outlook Express, I was able to use SyncBack (the free version) to 'sync' my message store folders/files and my Windows Address Book folder/files between the 2 PCs. Since only one was in use at a time, I had no problem with OE getting out of sync. All of my new, deleted, moved & sent sent emails were kept straight between the 2 PCs. I used an external USB HDD along with SyncBack (SB) to sync between the PCs which also gave me a backup copy, just in case. While not absolutely necessary, I made the SyncBack Profiles a little easier to construct, by making one edit in the Registry - I made the message store folder name (under Identities) on the laptop the same as it was on the desktop.
Back at the beginning of this year, I migrated from OE6 to WLM on both WinXP PCs. I knew that OE6 was going away, sooner or later I would be getting a PC with Win7 (I have never owned a PC with Vista) and that I should probably switch to WLM now and get used to it. I used the import/export functions and got all my emails and contacts migrated over without a problem, except for a few mistakes it made importing the Windows Address Book which I was able to quickly fix manually. But, it got the messages imported correctly.
Next, I set about setting up my 'sync' Profiles in SyncBack (SB) to do the same thing with WLM that I had been doing with OE6. After installing WLM, I found that 3 new folders had been added:
C:\Documents and Settings\UserID\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Live
C:\Documents and Settings\UserID\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Contacts
C:\Documents and Settings\UserID\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
Since I only installed WLM and no other Windows Live component, the 1st folder has remained empty except for one sub-folder which is also empty. I don't know what it is used for, but I included it, just in case. The other 2 folders are self-explanatory by their name and are filled with sub-folders and files. I created one set of SB backup Profiles to make an exact copy of each folder's contents (sub-folders & files) on the PC (source) on to the external HDD (destination). 'Sync' Profiles won't work correctly, they must be 'backup' Profiles. You don't want to write anything back onto the PC that isn't currently there. So, you copy everything from the PC (source) to the external HDD (destination) and also set the SB Profile to delete any file on the external HDD (destination) that is not on the PC (source). This insures that you get an exact copy of what is on the PC in these 3 folders, no missing files, no extra files. I created 3 corresponding SB Profiles on the laptop when I connected the external HDD to it. This gave me an exact copy on the laptop of whatever was on the desktop. I started WLM on the laptop and it worked perfectly. All my contacts and messages were there correctly and I would leave on my trip. I could now pull down, reply, forward, send or delete messages just like at home with the desktop.
I created 2 more sets of SB Profiles (one on each PC) to move the files/folders in the reverse direction when I got back home to the desktop. Again, it worked perfectly. Back on the desktop, I would have all my original messages with any changes I had made while traveling to either the emails or contacts. I've run this way since about February of this year without a glitch.
Then I bought a new ThinkPad T410 laptop last month with Win7 Pro (x64) and WLM already installed and my whole scheme went down the drain!
All 3 PCs are running the same version of WLM - 14.0.8089.0726. On the laptop with Win7, WLM has built the same 3 folders, but of course, the paths are different:
C:\Users\UserID\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live
C:\Users\UserID\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Contacts
C:\Users\UserID\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
After installing SB on the new laptop, I constructed the same type of SB Profiles as I did for the WinXP laptop. I shut down WLM on the desktop and ran its usual 3 SB Profiles to the external HDD. I connected the HDD to the new laptop and ran the 3 SB Profiles I had just made and started WLM. It came right up with no problem and all my emails were in their proper folders, just as they were on the WinXP desktop. All the Contacts were there. I played around for a little bit, opening messages, deleting messages creating a new message but ended up deleting it on purpose. I did most things except allow my 5 email accounts to connect over the internet to pull down new messages. I was taking baby steps.
At this point I shut down WLM and ran the 3 SB Profiles to the HDD, moved the HDD to the WinXP desktop and ran those 3 SB Profiles. I started WLM and began getting the typical error messages about recovering from corrupt files. It ended up that all my Contacts were gone and several of my email messages were scrambled/missing. Luckily, I had another current backup and was able to restore the original folders/files on the desktop so I suffered no permanant loss.
WLM seems to either be doing something different with the files in those 3 main folders when running on Win7 that is not backward compatible to WinXP, or there is a fundamental difference between a 64-bit system and a 32-bit system as far as how WLM operates.
Has anyone else made any progress on this issue? Does anyone have any ideas how to overcome this?
Thanks,
Gary
> On Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:27 AM N wrote:
> My question looks somewhat the same as the one by Ozsubasi, but I think it
> is not exactly the same.
>
> I have 2 computers: a desktop and a laptop. With my desktop (Vista x64) I
> download my e-mails (no gmail or hotmail, a commercial provider), using
> Windows Live Mail. I store the mails on the desktop. In total it is ca.
> 10,000 e-mails (received + sent, together around 6 Gb) over the years; I
> tell you this so you can understand that leaving the mails with the provider
> is no option.
>
> On a daily basis I synchronize my documents between the desktop and the
> laptop. I travel a lot for my work, and I am usually at places where no
> internet is available. So then I cannot download any new mail, but that is
> not a big problem. I do want to be able to read my old e-mails, since I am
> in need of them many times.
> For that reason I installed Windows Live Mail on my laptop (Windows XP), and
> the program runs well. I use a backup program (SyncBackSE) to copy all
> e-mails from the desktop to the laptop, expecting to be able to read them on
> the laptop. However, the laptop version of Windows Live Mail does not show
> any of them.
>
> Is there isome way to solve this problem? I do not need to be able to receive
> or send any new e-mails with the laptop. I just want to be able to read the
> mails that I received or sent with the desktop, using the laptop when I am
> not at home.
> So, what can I do? E.g., is there a clever way to connect certain folders on
> both computers (using the backup program) so that I can read the mails on
> the laptop?
>
> Niko
>> On Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:01 AM Michael Walraven wrote:
>> Niko,
>>
>> There is Windows Live Sync that allows folders on multiple machines to be
>> synchronized. Problem might be that more than just the folders would need to
>> be synced to enable both email programs to see the same thing. (I just do not
>> know). The sync only happens when BOTH machines are on line however.
>>
>> On my machine (Win 7, Windows Live Mail) the message store is located at
>> c:\Users\<name>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
>>
>> Using Windows live sync to sync this folder 'MIGHT' be what you need.
>>
>> Michael
>>> On Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:47 PM Michael Santovec wrote:
>>> Exactly what are you synching?
>>>
>>> If just eh underlying EML files, that will not make them visible in WLM.
>>> There is an index file Mail.MSMessageStore that tracks what messages are
>>> in what folders as well as other information about them such as if they
>>> are read, what account downloaded them, etc.
>>>
>>> I do not know if copying that file as well would be sufficient as there
>>> are related log files for recovery purposes.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>>> On Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:36 PM N. Miller wrote:
>>>> No clever way to connect email folders that does not entail some risk of data
>>>> corruption; Windows Live Mail is not a "network aware" application.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the easiest way would be to open a Gmail account (assumes you are
>>>> willing to trust Google with your data). Configure the account for IMAP
>>>> access. Configure Windows Live Mail (on the desktop) to access the Gmail
>>>> account using IMAP. Copy (not move) your email messages from the desktop to
>>>> IMAP folders at Gmail. Configure Windows Live Mail (on the laptop) to access
>>>> IMAP folders at Gmail.
>>>>
>>>> You will not need to use the Gmail email address for anything other than
>>>> account access. You can send/receive using your normal servers on the
>>>> desktop, and receive, from Gmail, on the laptop. You could even configure
>>>> your Gmail account for POP3 aggregation (Gmail downloads your email, and you
>>>> access Gmail from either computer using IMAP).
>>>>
>>>> This would work in a similar fashion for any provider offering a combination
>>>> of IMAP access and POP3 aggregation; so, if you do not trust Google, you can
>>>> look for another provider offering comparable services.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Norman
>>>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
>>>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
>>>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:15 AM N wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Michael. I did as you suggested. Unfortunately, it does not work.
>>>>> First it appeared to be impossible to copy the index file (and some other
>>>>> files), as they were "in use" by Explorer (on the laptop).
>>>>> So I used Unlocker, which made it possible to delete the blocked files and
>>>>> replace them by the ones from the desktop.
>>>>> (That's not an elegant solution, but I just wanted to know if it would
>>>>> work.)
>>>>> But when I started WLM on the laptop, a message told me:
>>>>> "The message store has been corrupted. Windows Live Mail has been able to
>>>>> successfully recover from this corruption".
>>>>> After that, no e-mail messages were present.
>>>>> I do not know how WLM found out that something was not allright...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea what can be done better, in this directiuon?
>>>>>
>>>>> Niko
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:18 AM N wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, Michael. I am going to try this, and report back to this forum
>>>>>> whether it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Niko
>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:39 AM Michael Walraven wrote:
>>>>>>> Niko,
>>>>>>> I was kind of expecting that it might not work, the mail program is just not
>>>>>>> set up for multiple access to the database at the same time.
>>>>>>> If you turned off both email programs, then manually synced that might make
>>>>>>> it work as the files would not be busy, however that would be a large pain
>>>>>>> and risk forgetting to turn them off and thereby corrupt the index/email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Along the lines of another poster. If I had your requirement I would set my
>>>>>>> free Microsoft account to aggregate the mail from my other accounts and then
>>>>>>> sync my local email clients to just that one account. xxxx.msn accounts for
>>>>>>> instance permit an 'unlimited' amount of storage and are free. I do not think
>>>>>>> 10,000 emails would be a problem. (there is a limit on the amount that can
>>>>>>> be added in a short period of time).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2010 5:07 AM N wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sorry that I did not react to the replies anymore. All of a sudden I
>>>>>>>> was brought to a hospital and had an emergency surgery, which saved my life.
>>>>>>>> But now I am back, and I can try to continue this thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me explain my question some more, based on the reactions that were sent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Webmail, IMAP, etc., are not an option for me, for 2 reasons.
>>>>>>>> 1. When I am reading the e-mail on the laptop, this is usually when I am
>>>>>>>> travelling, e.g. in a train, an airplane, a hotel, etc. In those situations,
>>>>>>>> I usually am not online, and so webmail would not help me.
>>>>>>>> 2. The total volume of my e-mail is about 6 Gb. That is because it is the
>>>>>>>> e-mail of a lot of years, and all these messages are important for me to
>>>>>>>> keep and - every now and then - to read again. Now, my provider offers
>>>>>>>> webmail and IMAP, but not for a total size of 6 Gb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not need to receive or send e-mail from my laptop. I just want to be
>>>>>>>> able to read messages that I sent or received in the past. So actually I
>>>>>>>> do not need the full capacity of an e-mail application. All I need is an
>>>>>>>> e-mail reader.
>>>>>>>> I do not know if such an application exists, and if I cannot find it, I will
>>>>>>>> have to use WLM on the laptop. That is ok for me, apart from the fact that
>>>>>>>> synchronizing between the 2 computers does not work. When I sync between the
>>>>>>>> 2 (using SyncBackSE), backing up the files (i.e. the e-mail messages and
>>>>>>>> other files, like the database files) to the laptop, and next start WLM on
>>>>>>>> the laptop, it tells me that the files are corrupt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have not yet tried Windows Live Sync. Would that offer me what I am
>>>>>>>> looking for. do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Niko
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2010 6:31 AM N wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some more info.
>>>>>>>>> I just tried Windows Live Sync. But this does not work. It has a maximum of
>>>>>>>>> 20,000 files to be synched. And in my mail folders, there is a total of
>>>>>>>>> about 25,000 files.
>>>>>>>>> Besides, the synching goes through the internet instead of through my local
>>>>>>>>> network, which makes it extremely slow: even though I have a fast internet
>>>>>>>>> connection, it can never compete with my local network, of course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another reason why I expect that it will not be a solution is, that it
>>>>>>>>> does - I think - exactly the same that SyncBackSE does: copy the files from
>>>>>>>>> the mail folder on my main computer to the mail folder of the laptop. This I
>>>>>>>>> can do already, so WL Sync does not add anything new here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I do not understand is the following. I copy each and every file of the
>>>>>>>>> mail folder (including, as far as I know, database files, system files etc.)
>>>>>>>>> from the main computer to the laptop.
>>>>>>>>> So I would expect that WLM on the laptop would be fooled into believing they
>>>>>>>>> are its own files. But it is NOT. When I backup the files to the laptop and
>>>>>>>>> next start WLM on it, every time it tells me that the files are corrupt, and
>>>>>>>>> starts to recover the database. But how does it KNOW?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Niko
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2010 7:43 AM Ron Sommer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried File, Export, Messages in WLMail?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2010 9:10 AM Ildhund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> There are reasons why you cannot just copy a WLMail message store (that is,
>>>>>>>>>>> the folders containing the individual message files along with the database
>>>>>>>>>>> file and its associated log files, files containing account details and a
>>>>>>>>>>> few other things) from one machine to another. Anything which is encrypted
>>>>>>>>>>> (like passwords) uses a key based on the Windows user account containing
>>>>>>>>>>> it. And the program uses Registry data to administer itself, and some of
>>>>>>>>>>> these will vary from one installation to another. So that is not going to
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do think that Michael Walraven's suggestion - use Hotmail's storage, sync
>>>>>>>>>>> and POP aggregation - is the one most likely to achieve your aim. The
>>>>>>>>>>> initial setup will take some time, but after that a simple sync on your
>>>>>>>>>>> laptop should ensure that its local store of messages is complete and up to
>>>>>>>>>>> date. it is quick and easy to set up a Hotmail account, and you will have
>>>>>>>>>>> immediate access to as much storage there as you need. I suppose that your
>>>>>>>>>>> 10,000 messages are sorted into folders. This might present a problem,
>>>>>>>>>>> because Hotmail does not allow for nested folders (folders within folders).
>>>>>>>>>>> But careful naming of your folders should get around that. I would create
>>>>>>>>>>> new folders in the web UI and wait until they appear in WLMail on both
>>>>>>>>>>> machines before moving archived messages into them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest that you at least give it a trial with a subset of your
>>>>>>>>>>> messages. If it seems to work - and there is no reason why it should not -
>>>>>>>>>>> then you could go ahead and implement the solution for all your stored
>>>>>>>>>>> messages. If you really do not like it for some reason, you could just empty
>>>>>>>>>>> your Hotmail folders and forget about it. The account will eventually lapse
>>>>>>>>>>> and become history.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Noel
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Robert Aldwinckle
> main folders when running on Win7 that is not backward compatible to
> WinXP, or there is a fundamental difference between a 64-bit system and a
> 32-bit system as far as how WLM operates.
Have you ruled out that SyncBack on W7 may be the issue? <eg>
(Microsoft search for
SyncBack
)
<quote>
Syncback Free is not listed in Windows7 compatibility list
</quote>
Actually that responder made the same three points that I was going to make.
; )
And I will make one more, I don't think you're in the right newsgroup.
E.g. I suspect people familiar with backup issues in general (e.g. admins)
are more likely to understand the nuances of a particular backup product
than people here who are mostly just familiar with WLM and not necessarily
how to do what you want to do with it.
FWIW I was unaware of it before your post. ; )
Otherwise I suggest you try using ProcMon to try to figure out more details
about the implementation and what the differences are in each case.
Good luck
Robert Aldwinckle
---
...winston
WLM contacts are stored in a database. The database is unique to each user on each machine.
If you wish to sync contacts..consider using a Live ID to signon to Windows Live in WLM and use that same Live ID on all other machines to signon to Windows Live in WLM. Almost all email addresses can be registered as a Live ID(e.g. Google, Hotmail, Earthlink, Yahoo, *.edu, *.org etc). Doing so(using same Live ID to logon to Windows Live) will ensure that the same contacts are available on all machines(since the contacts are pulled from the web server which is also accessible at contacts.live.com)
To sync email...the easiest route is to use an email address capable of IMAP(all messages will be common on both machines) or use a Hotmail type account email address(Hotmail.com, Live.com, Msn.com etc) and setup that account using Http(not Pop3). The Http setup will use the DeltaSync protocol making all folders and messages available on any machine using the same email protocol(http).
Any other approach at trying to sync with a 3rd party application is liable to corrupt the WLM contacts and message store index with usually(as you found) painfull results.
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