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abc

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:57:14 AM12/30/09
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Do you know if it's possible to install only OE6 software from MS Office XP?
I still want to use the OE front end for newsgroup access.

Thank you.


Tom Willett

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:05:46 PM12/30/09
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OE 6 does not come with Office, nor does it have anything to do with Office.
It's part of Internet Explorer, and it's already on your computer.
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Bruce Hagen

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:12:57 PM12/30/09
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You just posted this using Outlook Express, and it is part and parcel of
all XP operating systems, not Office.
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abc

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:40:00 PM12/30/09
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Yes that's right, I am currently using OE / XP Professional for posting to
newsgroups, but this is my old machine and I am transferring to a new one. I
had forgotton that it came with IE6. I wanted to know how to get a copy of
OE 6 and install it on Windows 7. Is this possible? Thank you.

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Bruce Hagen

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:56:00 PM12/30/09
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No. You cannot use OE in Win7. You can use Windows Live Mail, (What MS
considers the upgrade for OE), or a third party app such as Thunderbird,
Forte Agent, Gravity, etc.

Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

This will run on XP if you want to test it out.


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abc

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:13:33 PM12/30/09
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Thanks for advising, are those free software?

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Bruce Hagen

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:27:43 PM12/30/09
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WLMail, TBird and Gravity are free. Agent isn't. There are others. All you
need is Google.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Free+news+readers&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1


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Twayne

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:55:46 PM12/30/09
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In news:%237GSAEX...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
abc <nor...@mail.com> typed:

> Do you know if it's possible to install only OE6 software from MS
> Office XP? I still want to use the OE front end for newsgroup access.
>
> Thank you.

Yes, it is. One of these should help.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307295

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194179

http://ask-leo.com/from_where_can_i_download_outlook_express_6.html
Questionable article IMO, but ...

http://www.theeldergeek.com/repair_reinstall_ie_and_oe_6.htm


Twayne

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Twayne

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:57:54 PM12/30/09
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Aha, there's the rub. No supposedly you can't install OE on win7. You can
however use livemail and I think winmail, both searchable for download; I'm
pretty sure I read one of them comes with win7 so check that first!

Twayne

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abc

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:39:31 PM12/30/09
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Thank you for the information.

I'm now trying out and sending this message from Thunderbird. Hopefully
this works as OE.

Bruce Hagen

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:50:59 PM12/30/09
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It worked.

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bOB(IN)

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:40:32 PM12/30/09
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how did you make it work in Thunderbird? I have no luck. bOB(IN)

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N. Miller

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:05:36 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:40:32 -0500, bOB(IN) wrote:

> how did you make it work in Thunderbird? I have no luck. bOB(IN)

I'd guess he just plugged in the server names; same as with MS Outlook
Express. Well, except that the menu path to the server properties is not the
same. But the functionality is there.

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Mohan...

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:08:49 PM12/30/09
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Thunderbird automatically creates an account msnews.microsoft.com under
Tools/ Account settings when you subscribe to a Newsgroup. Just fill in
your name and mail-id (onscreen version!), and choose an Outgoing Server
(SMTP) to send/post if you have multiple mail accounts.

Mohan...

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:37:14 AM12/31/09
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The following is based on OL 2003 but it may work for OL 2002/XP.
=======
HOW TO properly set up Outlook for Mail and Outlook Express for News

A. Set the defaults to use Outlook Express to access Newsgroups:

1. Control Panel | Internet Options | Programs | Newsgroups | Select Outlook
Express and OK your way out;

2. Do not let Outlook or Outlook Express let themselves set to the default
newsreader:

a. Start Outlook Express to access news. When OE prompts you to make it
your default newsreader the next time you launch it, click the "Don't ask me
again" box and then click the "No" button;

b. Close Outlook Express and start Outlook. When it asks whether you
want to set Outlook as your default mail and news handler choose "No".
Leave Outlook open and continue to the next section.

3. Set the Outlook Toolbar:

a. Choose View | Toolbars | Customize*;

b. Select the Commands tab;

c. From the Categories list select "Go";

d. From the Commands list select "News" and drag & drop it to any place
you want on the Toolbar. The default location is in the "Go" menu.

e. Press Close to return to Outlook.

*Not seeing the News option in Customize? Choose View | Toolbars | Customize
| Toolbars (tab) | Select Menu Bar and press Reset | Start again from #3
above.

B. Start Outlook Express as Newsreader from a shortcut

1. Copy the following line to your clipboard (CTRL+C):

"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /newsonly

2. Right click on an empty area of your Desktop and choose New > Shortcut;

3. Paste the contents of your clipboard (CTRL+V) into the "Type the location
of the item" box;

4. Press Next;

5. Type a name for the shortcut (e.g., Newsreader);

6. Press Finish and your shortcut will be created. You can drag & drop this
shortcut to anywhere you want (e.g., Quick Launch toolbar, Shortcuts section
of the Navigation Pane in Outlook 2003).

Freely adapted from http://www.sparnaaij.net/Faq/news.htm and
http://www.slipstick.com/emo/2004/up040122.htm#news
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
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abc

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:38:55 AM12/31/09
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On 30/12/2009 20:50, Bruce Hagen wrote:
> It worked.
In OE, when I hit Reply button, it automatically defaults my cursor to
the top of the reply message, allowing me to put text at the top above
the Reply message. With Thunderbird it puts the cursor at the end of
the message by default. Should the cursor be at the top, as if so, do I
have to manually put it there, or is there a setting?

abc

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:02:53 AM12/31/09
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Try this:

In Thunderbird, goto Tools>Account Settings>Account Actions>Add Other
Account.
Then select Newsgroup Account then Continue button,
Then enter Your Name and Email Address (this should be your online alias
name and email address to avoid spam), then Continue button,
Then enter Newsgroup Server e.g. 'msnews.microsoft.com' then Continue
button,
Then accept the Account Name default, press Continue button
Then Done button.

N. Miller

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:04:02 AM12/31/09
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>> It worked.

The behavior you describe is for "top posting", the preferred method for
replies in this group. The Mozilla behavior is for "bottom posting", the
preferred method for replies in most of the rest of Usenet.

You will need, at the least, XP SP2 (I think) to modify the behavior in MSOE
using a registry hack. I don't know the key to change; I've not been using
MSOE a lot since upgrading my main computer to Windows 7.

Or you could try OE-QuoteFix:

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

OE-QuoteFix also cures some other lapses in the programming of MS Outlook
Express.

Bruce Hagen

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:46:15 AM12/31/09
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Thunderbird Forums:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=50&sid=9a32fdd2a74cb7d46b4cc1a13b63c73b

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abc

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Do you know the nam of the newsgroup where Thunderbird can be found?
I've only got msnews.microsoft.com and would like to view other newsgroups.
On 31/12/2009 15:46, Bruce Hagen wrote:
> Thunderbird Forums:
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=50&sid=9a32fdd2a74cb7d46b4cc1a13b63c73b
>

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Ken

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:28:16 AM1/1/10
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Re: Do you know the name of the newsgroup where Thunderbird can be found?

news.mozilla.org

Also see if this helps... http://ilias.ca/moznewsgroups-tb


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N. Miller

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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:01:28 +0000, abc wrote:

> On 31/12/2009 15:46, Bruce Hagen wrote:

>> Thunderbird Forums:
>> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=50&sid=9a32fdd2a74cb7d46b4cc1a13b63c73b

> Do you know the nam of the newsgroup where Thunderbird can be found?
> I've only got msnews.microsoft.com and would like to view other newsgroups.

It is actually a "news server", not a "newsgroup". As posted by Ken:
news.mozilla.org.

Twayne

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:31:57 PM1/2/10
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abc <nor...@mail.com> typed:

For most newsgroups including this one you want to bottom-post or inline
post with appropriate trimming. This pretty well covers the possibilities
but always assume bottom posting unless otherwise advised.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Myself, I usually look at a few posts to see what kind of quoting is going
on and follow suit. When I open a post with responses already made, then
I'll follow whatever method was used there to keep the flow of the
information going.

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