Delete mail without opening
Aethelred
to delete an e-mail, I have to highlight it, and it then automatically
opens. I am worried that if it contained a virus, by opening it the virus
would run. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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He rides in the Row at ten o'clock in the morning, goes to the Opera three
times a week, changes his clothes at least five times a day, and dines out
every night of the season. You don't call that leading an idle life, do you?
Oscar Wilde
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"Aethelred" <tea...@bc.cablemas.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any way to delete a suspicious e-mail without opening it. In
order
> to delete an e-mail, I have to highlight it, and it then automatically
> opens. I am worried that if it contained a virus, by opening it the virus
> would run. Any suggestions? Thanks.
First:
OE>view>layout>remove tick from preview pane.
go to toolbar>right click>customise>scroll to and select preview in left
pane>add.
use that button to toggle back and forth.
now each time you go to inbox make sure preview is not enabled! treat inbox
as POISON!!
Aethelred
to delete an e-mail, I have to highlight it, and it then automatically
opens. I am worried that if it contained a virus, by opening it the virus
would run. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Aethelred
Aethelred
Aethelred
messages. I just installed Norton Personal Firewall and was having a little
trouble configuring it for Outlook Express.
" mac" <sgb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Aethelred
messages. I just installed Norton Personal Firewall and was having a little
trouble configuring it for Outlook Express.
" mac" <sgb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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wazza
real - you are missing out on good feature through rumour and other people's
silliness.
Come on MVP's - please put this to rest !!
"Aethelred" <tea...@bc.cablemas.com> wrote in message
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE/OE
don't open attachments.
The security update that protects against Klez was issued in 2001.
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE/OE
Please Reply in Newsgroup. I don't answer email.
http://www.fjsmjs.com
"wazza" <nospam@somewhere> wrote in message
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RC
Emails are just text files and cannot contain a virus.
If you suspect an attachment may contain a virus do not open it or save it.
Delete the email and the attachment will go with it.
If you're so worried about virus attack. Install ant-virus software.
"Aethelred" <tea...@bc.cablemas.com> wrote in message
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Ron Sommer
I heard of someone last week who had the Kak virus.
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"wazza" <nospam@somewhere> wrote in message news:uPpi#Tl$BHA.1144@tkmsftngp02...
PowerUser
attachment or run an .exe or something. Can you catch AIDS by looking at
infected blood?
"Aethelred" <tea...@bc.cablemas.com> wrote in message
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JPH
-I don't want certain material to have its content show on my screen. Why
should I subject myself to unwanted advertisements, material objectionable
to me, unreadable text, and various other B.S. [B.S. by my personal
definition]
-I can go through all my unwanted email and delete on inspection of the
title, without having to wait for it to totally
download. This is a quicker way to weed out the unwanted material which
is often 90% of my morning download.
John Hanley
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"wazza" <nospam@somewhere> wrote in message
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE/OE
long time ago.
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE/OE
Please Reply in Newsgroup. I don't answer email.
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"Ron Sommer" <rsommerat.nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
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> The Kak virus was activated by viewing with OE 5.0.
> I heard of someone last week who had the Kak virus.
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE/OE
the same reason.
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Please Reply in Newsgroup. I don't answer email.
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"JPH" <jpha...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Robert Aldwinckle
pane on my Inbox is that I don't want to accidentally allow
somebody's web bugs to signal that my Email address
is real.
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"wazza" <nospam@somewhere> wrote in message news:uPpi#Tl$BHA.1144@tkmsftngp02...
Aethelred
in turn send information about your system to a malicious computer or do
many other things that could be useful to a Trojan, or simply add your name
to one more junk mail list, giving you even more to filter.
Many of the critical security patches were written AFTER someone was
attacked. Some are only possibilities, but why take a chance. I see no
harm in erring on the side of caution. Virus updates are written AFTER
someone is infected.
Also, I can now delete the spam, then click on the preview button to preview
mail from known, and wanted, sources. I am not thereby subjected to viewing
material that I do not want to view, whether it be offensive or not. I am
not missing out on anything, and the required extra effort to delete the
spam first without viewing and click on preview is, for me, minimal. If you
don't want to do this, you don't have to. I prefer it this way. It is my
choice.
"wazza" <nospam@somewhere> wrote in message
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Aethelred
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> real - you are missing out on good feature through rumour and other
people's silliness.
> Come on MVP's - please put this to rest !!
All versions of Klez attack a 12-month-old vulnerability in Microsoft
Outlook, known as the Automatic Execution of Embedded MIME Type bug. The bug
is particularly dangerous because it can infect a user who simply previews
the message in Outlook - clicking on an attachment is not required.
Microsoft has made a free patch available that fixes the flaw
exploited by Klez. It can be downloaded at the company's Web site.
full story here:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/741151.asp
and check this out:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS01-020.asp
Have a nice day.
whoever
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> Is there any way to delete a suspicious e-mail without opening it. In
> order to delete an e-mail, I have to highlight it, and it then
> automatically opens. I am worried that if it contained a virus, by
> opening it the virus would run. Any suggestions? Thanks.
One simple way is to use the Find button - just check off todays date in
the Received After box, and you can select the message and delete it
without opening it.
If you want to peek inside the message without risking anything, you can
right click on it, select Properties, and click Message Source. This uses a
viewer that doesn't support any scripting or ActiveX, and doesn't even
format the message, just shows the "raw" messsage.
whoever
> I don't believe previewing an email has ever propagated a virus yet -
> get real - you are missing out on good feature through rumour and
> other people's silliness.
> Come on MVP's - please put this to rest !!
Some of the most prolific mail based virus's work precisely because bugs in
OE will allow people who haven't applied the patches to be infected simply
by previewing a message.
In the last few weeks, Klez.h has been causing havoc all over the world,
even though it exploits a hole that was patched over a year ago.
The simple truth is that the vast majority of users never apply the
patches, especally home users. Microsoft know exctly how many people have
downloaded he various security patches, but they don't release that
information. I've seen suggestions that takeup is as low as 10%, but Klex
has demonstrated that huge numbers of users are definitely vulnerable to
infection simply by previewing a e-mail message.
wazza
stupid :-)
"whoever" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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David Guess
help you even more.
Another thing you can do besides turn off the Preview Pane (I don't) as
well is set up some message rules, especially for attachments.
I filter all my email that comes in and only particular people arrive in my
Inbox. If you are not on my list, you are not in my Inbox. That however does
not mean that any mail sent will not be seen by me (eventually), it means
that mail coming in to my Inbox has a high priority than the rest of the
mail.
Message rules can be set up to move your messages into different folders.
Use this ability to sort your mail. Look at how the mail arrives in the
message headers. CTRL F3 will show this quickly and look through and find
what you see is consistant in each message from each sender. Use this to set
the mail filter and move the message to it's folder.
On a lot of spam, you'll never see your email address listed. You can set
up a filter to delete any mail that does NOT contain your email address(es)
and delete it from the server without it even coming into Outlook Express.
On those messages that do arrive with your email address, send all the mail
that isn't sent to another folder into a special folder, I use one called
"Stuff". This is where all mail that doesn't meet any of my other message
rules and does contain one of my email addresses. For instance replies from
people in the newsgroups end up here and since it's not as high priority as
my other mail arriving, Ill look at it later.
I also have a message rule for files with attachments. All these go into an
Attachment folder. That puppy will have the Preview Pane turned off before I
go poking around in it. While CTRL F3 won't work with the Preview Pane
turned off, right click on message and select Properties then click on the
Details tab sheet and press the Messager Source button. You can't get a
virus, worm or trojan installed on your computer this way. You can view the
message's headers, text content, HTML content (if an HTML message) and the
encoded attachment(s). If you see something suspicious and especially if
it's from someone you don't know, check it out further or delete it. If you
choose to check it out further, you can safely save the attachment (never
open it) and then scan it with your anti-virus software. Most if not all of
the AV software adds a "Scan with......" and the name of the AV software to
the Context menu (right click menu) where just a right click and a scan away
from finding out if it's safe or not. Always handle any attachment with kid
gloves. Assume a virus, worm or trojan first and foremost before thinking,
that Becky Sue or Johnny Bob really wants you to see the Flash attachment or
whatever it is if you don't know them.
Remember, .bat, .com, .exe, .pif, .vbs, .js, .hta, and other file types
should NOT ever be opened unless you are expecting the file or you confirm
that the sender has actually sent it for a particular reason (that should be
a real good one).
If you are worried about malicious scripts, it's easy to solve. Uninstall
Windows Scripting Host or rename the file wscript.exe and cscript.exe, to
something else until you need it, and then I'd say 90% of the people using a
computer don't need it nor would know what to do with it to begin with. WSH
is a powerful tool. It's a useful tool. I use scripts daily to perform
tasks or check things but like i said, 90% of the people don't and won't
have a use for it. It's not required for Windows Update reguardless what
rumor you hear, as with rumors, treat them as false till you have evidence
that says they should be true.Remember Walt Disney an Elvis are dead. Bill
Gates is not giving away whatever, Outback Steakhouse isn't giving away
whatever and so on. You want to check into these type items, check out sites
like:
CDC Health-Related Hoaxes & Rumors
http://www.cdc.gov/hoax_rumors.htm
CIAC Full Hoax Index:
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBHoaxIndex.html
and other urban legend, hoax sites. Some of that stuff is fun reading, check
it out and check it out before forwarding that message to 10 people or
you'll wet the bed or whatever.
I also have a message rule for mail with attachment from particular people.
Well, one person, but it's normal for us to send attachments to each other.
Those attachments get saved first but I don't worry about them containing
something I should be scared of.
I set up a web page a long time ago for family and friends on how to set up
some message rules to help them. I went ahead and let others know about it
later on and I get a lot of feedback on it from people that it has helped.
Look at http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm and see if it can
help you set up some message rules to help keep out spam and filter IN your
email. Just because you have an Inbox, it doesn't mean all email has to come
into it.
Windows Update has a Critical Update Notification download. Get it. Set it
let you know there is something there to update. Also look into subscribing
to Microsoft's Security Bulletins. Look on
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/notify.asp and subscribe
to it.
Bookmark some sites that will help such as Microsoft Product Support
Services:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
You can get a ton of information from this site alone.
Microsoft Technet:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/
The Microsoft Security homepage
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
default.asp
There are plenty of other sites as well, ask around, someone else may have
some more sites that are helpful.
Do you subscribe to ant newsletter from your software makers? Hardware
manufacturers? How about all the Anti-virus newsletters you can find?
With the Internet, no one can tell me that we are not more empowered with
knowledge than any time in out history. It's out there, it's just people
have to look to find it at times but there is a ton of information available
online and with the search engines, it's not like it takes a lot of effort
to begin to find it.
It doesn't take a lot to keep your software updated as well. It's just doing
it. A computer requires maintenance. Regular maintenance. It's like having
the oil changed in your car, if you don't do it, eventually it will cause
some serious problems. It's not a hard thing to do. If you are not sure of
something, look around and you'll find newsgroups or web sites that you can
ask questions to help you. If you're not sure on who to ask, look around and
see who is answering questions that are helping instead of whining and
crying about things. Microsoft have the MVP's and basically we're a bunch
of newsgroup junkies that like to help people. Other sites have their own
versions of MVP's. We're all alike in one way, we like to help people and
if you notice, we don't complain about posting an answer over and over and
over again. Some of us have set up help sites to make it a bit easier to
reference this information and no, we're not doing it to get hits on out web
sites. One web site I had was costing me money and not once did I ever ask
for monetary help. We just find ways to work around these issues and if we
like doing it, we'll find a way without asking for help. The only help we
may ask for is if someone comes up with a solution to a problem that we are
not aware of.
Just do some regualar maintenance any your computing experience will be much
more enjoyable.
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David Guess
Microsoft MVP - DTS Internet Explorer\Outlook Express Express
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wazza
good stuff ! tks
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Al Darby
people], then when you enter your name, select [Options] and you can
change it to [does NOT contain people]
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Al
"Cody" <mc...@ono.net> wrote in message
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> "wazza" <nospam@somewhere> wrote
>
>>> On a lot of spam, you'll never see your email address listed. You
>>> can set up a filter to delete any mail that does NOT contain your
>>> email address(es) and delete it from the server without it even
>>> coming into Outlook Express.
>
> I can't find how to do that with the message rules. Can you help?
>
> Cody
David Guess
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