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Ira

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Jan 18, 2006, 1:36:31 AM1/18/06
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Hi there:

I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many TMP files
in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by Microsoft Word, and only
a few bytes in size. But many of these are constantly generated to a point
where much space is taken up.

A typical such file reads:

<<<<

[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

IconFile=http://us.mcafee.com/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1

>>>>

This does not happen when I click on bookmarks in my Yahoo Bookmarks folder.
It only happens with the Favorites in my IE 6.0 browser.

What might be causing these .TMP files to be generated in such numbers?

How can i prevent this?

I have no viruses or spyware on my PC.

I use Windows ME

and

IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 with all Critical Updates installed

TIA

-Ira


PA Bear

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> I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
> exporting them to a new PC.

Tell us more about this: What are these folders, where are they, and how did
you create them?

Export Favorites: Moving Bookmarks from Computer to Computer:
http://internet-explorer-tutorials.com/export-favorites.html

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Noel Paton

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Jan 18, 2006, 4:42:38 PM1/18/06
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What 'TMP' folder? - Win ME by default contains no such folder!
Do you mean the TIF (Temporary Internet Files) folder?? - if so , then this
is perfectly normal and expected behaviour - you should, however reduce the
space available to the folder to about 40MB - from Internet Properties|
Temporary Internet Files |Settings
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Ira

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Jan 18, 2006, 7:02:39 PM1/18/06
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Hi Noel and PA Bear:

I created those new Favorites folders by going to the "Organize Favorites"
option under : Favorites on the uppermost horizontal menu in my IE browser.

Noel wrote:

<<<
What 'TMP' folder? - Win ME by default contains no such folder! Do
you mean the TIF (Temporary Internet Files) folder?? -
>>>>

No, its not the TIF folder.

I specifically have a TEMP subfolder under Windows. It is this subfolder
which is getting filled with several Megs of those word-openable small
files whenever I make use of those favorites links.

TIA

-Ira

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Noel Paton

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You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com, install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from
your system.


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Ira

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Jan 19, 2006, 4:01:58 PM1/19/06
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Hello Noel:

I've done all you recommended. In addition, I ran spybot ans a a few online
scans for spyware and trojans.

Nothing was found.

The TEMP subfolder under Windows has been there for years and is a folder
apart from the temporary Inernet Files subfolder.


In answer to PA Bear:

The Favorites folders I've created were done by going to the item :
"Favorites" listed in the upper left side of my browser.

Highlighting that shows two options:

-Add to Favorites
-Organize Favorites

"Organize Favorites" allows me to createnew subfolders and enter isolated
favorites into them. I have a separate such subfolder called links, and
these are actual links on the browser Links Toolbar.

I've recently created ~20 such subfolder categories so that I'd have a
better sense of how to access these web pages after exporting and importing
them.


After this reorganization, i've found that merely highlighting these newly
created subfolders or accessing them generates quite a number of those
mini-temp Word files in that TEMP subfolder mentioned above.

A typical file among these would read as follows:

<<<
[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.mechon-mamre.org/

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.mechon-mamre.org/
Modified=608900448B1AC60199
IconFile=http://www.mechon-mamre.org/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1
>>>>>

These shorcuts are all web addresses in my favorites.

often many such files are generated in that TEMP folder; sometimes only a
few. This doesnt happen when I do the same withmy Yahoo bookmarks, which is
why I suspect this to be a problem with the IE 6.0 browser

TIA

-Ira

Windows ME
IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 with all critical updates.

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PA Bear

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What McAfee product are you using? Does it appear to be functioning
properly (e.g., automatically seeks/installs updates, scans automatically on
a schedule, you can manually seek/install updates from within the
application)?
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Ira

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Hi PA Bear:
The antivirus I actually use is NAV 2004, and seems to be functioning
properly and has the latest updates. No viruses were found.

I ran the McAfee Avert Stinger as suggested by Noel. I guess the suggestion
was made so as to ascertain whether there was any malware which might be
interfering with the proper functioning of my Antivirus. No malware was
found in any of the scans I've run thus far.

Thanks again:
-Ira

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PA Bear

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Did you uninstall whatever McAfee application you had installed (assuming
there was one) before you installed NAV 2004?

http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp resolves to the EULA for an online
virus scanner for McAfee subscribers. Kinda hard to believe it'd be there
if you weren't a subscriber at some point in the past.
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Ira wrote:
> The antivirus I actually use is NAV 2004, and seems to be functioning
> properly and has the latest updates. No viruses were found.
>
> I ran the McAfee Avert Stinger as suggested by Noel. I guess the
> suggestion was made so as to ascertain whether there was any malware
> which might be interfering with the proper functioning of my Antivirus.
> No malware was found in any of the scans I've run thus far.
>

> "PA Bear" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > What McAfee product are you using? Does it appear to be functioning
> > properly (e.g., automatically seeks/installs updates, scans
> > automatically on a schedule, you can manually seek/install updates from
> > within the application)?
> > --
> > ~PA Bear
> >
> > Ira wrote:
> > > Hi Noel and PA Bear:
> > >
> > > I created those new Favorites folders by going to the "Organize
> > > Favorites" option under : Favorites on the uppermost horizontal menu
> > > in my IE browser.

<paste>

Ira

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Jan 19, 2006, 9:50:35 PM1/19/06
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Hi PA Bear:

The only McAfee applications I ran on my PC were the online virus
scan---done several months ago.

The installation of NAV 2004 and many complete scans with NAV 2004 were
done pior to the the installation of the McAfee Avast Stinger I ran early
this morning.

The NAV scans are scheduled to run daily and to scan the entire PC and
within compressed files.

The presence of that McAfee link among my favorites is on account of my
bookmarking various online scanning sites or possibly while I was
considering switching to McAfee a long time back. I had never installed it
though.

Thanks again
-Ira

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Ira

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Jan 19, 2006, 10:08:07 PM1/19/06
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Hi again:

Yes, now I see that McAfee Free Scan program in my program files. It dates
from april 2004. It isn't listed in my Control Panel, nor do I see an
uninstall program for it.

If it's advisable to remove the McAfee Free Scan program [it has 8 filees
and 7 megs] if I'm using the NAV, what is the most adviable way to do so?

Thanks again. My apologies for the earlier confusion.

-Ira

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PA Bear

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And it's not listed in Add/Remove Programs, nor is anything McAfee?

Are you the original owner of the machine?

Ira

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Yes....The McAfee Free Scan was an online scan. The folder, which is in
Windows [not in Program files as stated earlier] is named "McAfee.com". It
contains only one subfolder named: "Free Scan" . The dates for those
folderrs are april 2004. Long after I had installed NAV 2004.

As I recall, I was asked to temporariliy disable the NAV while performing
that online scan. I believe I did so. And the online scan went smoothly.

I have a similar folder for an online scan I did at BitDefender, called
"avxoscan". Also dates from 2004

It seems that online scans workby Active X, but also leave some files in
the Windows folder.

But I doubt these have anything much to do with those .TMP files since
theyve been on my C Drive for a few years now

-Ira

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PA Bear

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This thread so far in archive: http://snipurl.com/lrvo

Just to be clear, we're talking about files in C:\Windows\TEMP <=this
folder, in WinME which is fully up-to-date at Windows Update and running a
fully functional NAV 2004 with a current subscriptions, right?

Can you manually delete all files in C:\Windows\TEMP <=this folder?

If you do so, do these strange files return?

From your first post:


> I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
> exporting them to a new PC.

But this behavior is on the machine where you rearranged the links &
folders, not on the machine to which you imported the Favorites, right?

> I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many TMP
> files in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by Microsoft Word,
> and only a few bytes in size. But many of these are constantly generated
> to a point where much space is taken up.

Assuming you've been able to delete the files in that TEMP folder, do new
ones get created when you click on *any* link in Favorites or just links
you've arranged in the new folders?

If you click on a link in any post in this thread > http://snipurl.com/lrvo
< , is one of these strange files created in C:\Windows\TEMP <=this folder?

[Note to self: 823353 is installed.]

Ira

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Hi PA Bear:

Yes. I can manually delete all those little files in TEMP folder. They do
not automatically return.. the rest of yuor summary below is correct.

The NAV seems fully functional.

These favorites are still in the original PC . I haven't yet exported them.

When I simply highlight or click on items in the newly reorganized Favorites
in IE6, many similar files will appear in the TEMP folder, though not
necessarily the identical ones. I think I had reorganized just about all
the items in the favorites by creating those subfolders within the Favorites
group.

Clicking on any link, even that same link happens to be in the Favorites,
does NOT engender such TEMP files as long as I dont click on it FROM the
Favorites.

For examplr, if I clcik on : http://snipurl.com/lrvo

it will NOT engender any such TEMP file.

Thanks again:

-Ira

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"Ira" <once...@outthere.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi PA Bear:
>
> Yes. I can manually delete all those little files in TEMP folder. They do
> not automatically return.. the rest of yuor summary below is correct.
>
> The NAV seems fully functional.
>


NAV + WINME= Total screwup!!
GET RID OF NAV!!!

PA Bear

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Hang on, Sandi and I have been chatting about this and she may have a fix
for you. She's gonna chime in here.

[NAV's presence *might* have something to do with it but let's hold off on
that for now.]
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<cue rider and horse galloping into view over the horizon>

<waving to PABear> Here friend, take the reins of the knightess in shining
armour's trusty steed will ya?

Ok, this is what I'd like you to try Ira.

From within IE go to tools, internet options, IE cache settings. Then click
on 'view objects'. Delete the activex control that was sure to be
downloaded as part of the McAfee online scan.

Then, rename the McAfee folder that you found in the Windows directory, and
its subfolder to be safe - don't delete it just yet.

I'm not convinced that moving the favorites directory was the cause of your
problems per se. McAfee has caused issues for WindowsME in the past -
anybody remember the OEM***.INF debacle?


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I'm not convinced of NAV's involvement, not when the files are pointing to
the McAfee site...

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Mind you, the EULA states that only McAfee subscribers can/will be able to
use it.
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Sandi Hardmeier - MVP wrote:
> I'm not convinced of NAV's involvement, not when the files are pointing to
> the McAfee site...
>
>

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

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I'm tempted to use the URL to test if it actually works without McAfee
installed. I'm sure its not a publicly exposed URL.

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I couldn't get past the EULA here.

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP wrote:
> I'm tempted to use the URL to test if it actually works without McAfee
> installed. I'm sure its not a publicly exposed URL.
>
>

Ira

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Hi there Sandi:

Thanks for trying to help:

That active X for McAfee had been long ago deleted. It's certainly not in my
Cache now.

I renamed that McAfee folder and sunbfolder in the Windows directory as you
advised.

It's possible that I may have submitted some email address and subscription
form prior to running that McAfee Free Scan. I'm certain I didn't install
any of their software, other than that Avert Stinger recommended by Noel ~2
days ago....long after the problem with those TMP files emerged.

After renaming those folders and rebooting, the problem of those TMP files
persists.

A typical file among the~ twenty TMP files that were just generated a
moment ago by my highlighting many of the Favorites reads:

<<<<
[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.jpost.com/

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.jpost.com/
Modified=C06C54AC2FCBC101E8
IconFile=http://static.jpost.com/images/2002/site/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1

>>>>
So the probelm still persists.

Thanks again for your efforts.


-Ira

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No problems here. Bear, in either ME or XPSP2

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OEM***.INF was/is NAV's territory, Sandi!

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Sorry - I meant Norton System Doctor...
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/quackfix.htm

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True. My bad.

McAfee
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/mcafee.htm

Norton
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Dean-Dean

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Hi Ira,

This is only a hunch, but do you have your temp (.tmp) files associated with
Microsoft Word?
If so, Word may be "helping" you by auto-saving .tmp files permanently in
your Temp folder for some reason.

An internet shortcut is actually a text document with very specific rules,
with a .url extension
(which is a hidden extension), and is editable by a text editor, such as
Word, Notepad, or Wordpad.
For example, using the Send To command, from the context menu (should any of
those editors be listed among your
Send To programs), by right-clicking on any of the files in your Favorites,
and sending it to an editor,
creates exactly the type of read-out of the ".tmp" file read-outs that
you're seeing, by opening the
internet shortcut as a text file.

To make a long story short, for the moment, Yahoo Bookmarks and shortcuts
(links) on a Web page,
while they all open with Internet Explorer, aren’t the same type of shortcut
as the shortcuts in your Favorites Folder
(which are individual files on your hard disk).

Anyway, if your .tmp files are showing a Word icon, instead of Window's
generic, non-associated icon,
try going to Control Panel > Folder Options > File types and highlight the
TMP listing under the extensions column,
and delete it. Click apply, and OK, to close the dialogue. (You might want
to re-open the File Types dialogue,
and make sure that the TMP extension is no longer listed).

Next, to be sure file types for Internet Explorer aren't screwed up, go,
again, to Control Panel > Add or Remove
Programs, and highlight Internet Explorer SP1 in the list. Click the
Repair/Remove button, and, in the next dialogue,
click the Repair radio-type option, and Apply. When it's finished, allow the
prompt to restart you computer.

My hunch, in other words, is that Word, if it's associated with TMP files,
is trying to catch and backup *.tmp files
as a text file and is putting them in the Temp folder in Windows, for lack
of a better place, so that you can
find them "rescued" through Office's Open Document... dialogue. Auto-saving
.doc files might be okay, but not .tmp files.

Again, sending any internet shortcut, which should either have a favicon
icon or a "blue-e-on-a-piece-of-paper" icon
("e" as in Internet Explorer's) to a text editor (by Send To or using
drag-and-drop) will create the
type of text document you're seeing in your Temp folder, so I don't think
it's a problem specific to another program,
such as McAfee, or a web page, such as the Jerusalem Post. They just happen
to be words in a *.url file.

I copied the text from your *.tmp files that you posted, pasted it into a
New Text Document via Notepad,
and saved the document as a *.url file (".url" being hidden by Windows after
the save), and created a valid internet
shortcut. Thus, I'm concluding that your .url and .tmp extensions, and
possibly other extensions, are haywire.

You may also have to re-register shdocvw.dll, but see if the above two fixes
won't work first, before trying re-registering that .dll.
I'm trying not to make my post too confusing, but this is an odd and
confusing problem!

I think, too, as a temporary fix, that if Word was closed, and you did a
CTRL_ALT_Del and ended the task osa.exe, these *.tmp
files might not be generated when you click to open a Favorite file.

Just a hunch.

Good Luck,
Dean-Dean

Ira

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Hi Dean:

Thanks for your interest and explanation of this.

You wrote:

<<<<
Anyway, if your .tmp files are showing a Word icon, instead of Window's
| generic, non-associated icon,
| try going to Control Panel > Folder Options > File types and highlight the
| TMP listing under the extensions column,
| and delete it.
>>>

Yes, they're showing a Word icon in the TEMP folder, When I highlight this
file type, I'm told that it open with Microsoft word for Windows. I'm
hestiant to delete this, since I've seen files of this type appear in the
TEMP folder in more "legitimate" circumstances. . Do you think it would help
matters here if I were to designate another program to open such files? I do
have the option to :Edit file types at Control Panel-->Folder
Options--->File Types.

However, I don't konw how I might designate

"Window's
| generic, non-associated icon"

to be the icon associated with the TMP files, nor whether this is advisable.

If you think that would be the way to go, would you expalin the most
reliable --and least risky--way of doing this?

I don't get any kind of Text Editor when I right click on Send To....but I
think I understand what youre trying to explain here. I actually find it
interesting. Though the problem continues to vex and perplex...

I did try the IE SP 1 Repair from the Control Panel as you suggested, but it
didn't repair this problem.

Dean wrote:

<<<
I think, too, as a temporary fix, that if Word was closed, and you did a
| CTRL_ALT_Del and ended the task osa.exe, these *.tmp
| files might not be generated when you click to open a Favorite file.
>>>

I don't see the osa.exe task running when I do CTRL_ALT_DEL, not does this
task show up as runnning program at PC Pitstop's summary of such programs:

http://www.pcpitstop.com/spycheck/scan.asp


In any case, I appreciate your assistance and explanations on this matter.

-Ira

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Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

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<pondering>

Ok, so now we know that you are not just seeing McAfee URLs. That changes
the entire complexion of the problem.

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TMP files should NOT be assigned to *any* file type; they can be created by,
and used by, any program on your PC. Delete the file type as advised and do
not associate any other program to that file type.

An IE repair will not fix file type associations specific to Word and
generic files like TMP files. The repair is specific to IE and will not
touch anything more system wide like file type associations that are not
specific to IE (eg: URL file type protocols... in fact, if my memory serves
me correctly, even URL file type protocols are not touched by an IE repair).

In short, there has been too much fiddling and too little understanding.
Somebody set TMP file types to be opened with Word incorrectly. We have no
way of knowing what else may have been mis-set.

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Ira

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Thanks Sandi:

Just to be sure I understand you:
.
You're suggesting I go to Folder Options.
Highlight the >TMP Extension-which is now associated with Word. Press
Delete?

This will have no negative impact on the functioning of Temp files?

TIA

-Ira
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Dean-Dean

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Hi Ira,

By deleting TMP as an extension opened by Word, through Control Panel >
Folder Options > File Types, Windows will assign the generic icon
automatically to *.tmp files. I've had both Windows 98 and Windows XP, both
with Office installed, and not seen *.tmp files associated with Word, or any
other program. In other words, when clicking on a file ending in .tmp, no
program should open automatically. TMP files are temporary files, and that
extension is used by many different programs. (Not to be confused with
temporary internet files, temporary program files are files used to store
data currently being worked on, or information to be swapped with the
operating system or other programs. Often .tmp files disappear after they're
used for whatever purpose a program created them; if not, they become
"debris" which can be deleted manually). Deleting TMP as an extension
through Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types will not prevent .tmp
files from being created for legitimate purposes, and no editing of actions
or assignment of icons is necessary. (TMP shouldn't be in the list of
extensions at all.) You can "peek" at created TMP files through such
programs as Notepad through drag-and-drop, among other means, but .tmp's
shouldn't be directly associated.

My point about .url's and viewing them in a text editor was to show you that
the .tmp items you are seeing in the TEMP folder are
actually internet shortcuts, renamed with a .tmp extension. My hunch was
that it is Microsoft Word doing this, because Word has auto-save
functionality with some of the extensions it's associated with, and is quite
capable of opening a text type file.

(The classic URL file format has a format similar to an INI file, and its
general classification is that of a Text file.)

Sample URL File, seen as a text file:

___________________________________


[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.someaddress.com/

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.someaddress.com/

IconFile=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\url.dll
IconIndex=1

___________________________________

Like I said, auto-saving .doc files, for example, which Word is legitimately
associated with, is okay, but not .tmp files. I'm thinking that these .tmp
files, created when you click on a shortcut in the Favorites folder, will
hopefully disappear if Word is taken out of the equation. Anyway, you're
safe in deleting TMP as an extension with associations in File Types, and I'm
thinking there's a 50-50 chance
it might solve your problem. Note: After the deletion, if you do click on a
*.tmp file, you will see an "Open With" dialogue, allowing you to choose a
program to open the file, which you can do, just make sure the check-box
"always use this program to open this file" is NOT checked.

As to repairing IE, this will only repair functions associated with IE.
Description of the Internet Explorer Repair tool:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177

As the article states, the Repair Tool has a feature to fix problems that
are caused by the incorrect or incomplete registration of Internet Explorer
files. Doing this just verifies that IE has the files it needs, and is
functional, but won't address the fact that your Word program is associated
with TMP files, or shed light on how that happened. However, running the
tool won't hurt, and will help verify that IE's arena is ok. Your version of
Office might also have a repair option, for checking and repairing its own
files' integrity, but it may not fix the *.tmp file association enigma, since
Office doesn't assign associations to TMP files in the first place, and, like
the Internet Explorer Repair, only resets its own files' functionality,
probably ignoring anomalies like miss-associated files that aren't its own.

I hope all this is clear.
Good Luck,

Dean

Ira

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Hi again:

I deleted that file association of .TMP files with Word, and they now have
that generic icon . They're no longer associated with any program

However, highlighting items form the Favorites folder continues to generate
.TMP files in the TEMP folder as before.

-Ira

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That is correct
FWIW, I usually associate TMP files with Notepad - it's far safer to do so
if you regularly open then for inspection, as Word may run code within such
files, while notepad will not.

However, as Sandi says, generally there is no need whatever either to
associate TMP files with any application, or to open them at all. In theory,
TMP file only exist for the life of the application which created them, and
should be closed when that application closes, and deleted by that
application. There are certain deliberate exceptions to this rule - such as
data files relating to incomplete installs - but certainly, under almost any
circumstances, using Word to open TMP files is NOT a good thing!

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Have you rebooted yet?

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Ira

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Yes, a number of times. Problem persists.

-Ira

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I am certain there must be some sort of third party application causing this
issue; what autoload software do you have running? Antivirus? Crashguards?
Antispam? Other 'protective' software? Web accelerators?

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Ira

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Hi Sandi:

Not sure exactly what u mean. I have very few running programs in the
background. This phenomenon occurs when I highlight favorite items even
while offline. I dont use any web accelerator.

I use the following Antivirus, Firewall, AntiSpyware, etc.

-Norton AntiVirus 2004

-Norton Personal Firewall 2003---ad blocking function is turned off.

-Yahoo Toolbar Pop-Up blocker

-CallWaveInternet Answering Machine---only logged in while online

-Spybot S&D 1.4 for periodic spyware scan----but not running in background

-AdAware S&E 1.06 --for periodic adware scans; not running in background

--CallWave Internet Answering Machine---only logged in while online

--Internat.exe---for switching keyboard languages.

No scan for viruses, spyware,trojans or adware in the past few weeks has
yielded anything other than a few tracking cookies.

--Ira

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Disable all that software (enable the Windows Firewall before disabling
Norton firewall - if you don't have Windows firewall leave Norton firewall
enabled). Doesn't matter whether you're offline or online.

You have no other autoload software?

Test.

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Ira

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Hi Sandi:
I disabled that Call wave Internet Answering Machine and the Yahoo pop-up
blocker. so that the only programs I have runninng in the background are
Windows and Symantec programs.

I checked to be sure no other programs were running by using the program
scan at:

http://www.pcpitstop.com/spycheck/scan.asp

Only Windows and Symantec programs were running.

Problem with TEMP files persists.

I EICAR tested the NAV and tested the Firewall at Symantec's Online
Security check. Both came out fine.

I had run extensive online scanning for malware as well. Nothing found.

-Ira

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Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

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I am stumped. If only the Norton firewall is running (and NOT the
antivirus).. I really am stumped.

The only possibility I can think of is a corrupt favorites folder. Export
your favorites. Delete the old folder (instructions here), reboot and then
import the exported favorites.
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers3.htm#favorites

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"Ira" <once...@outthere.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi again:
>
> I deleted that file association of .TMP files with Word, and they now have
> that generic icon . They're no longer associated with any program
>
> However, highlighting items form the Favorites folder continues to generate
> .TMP files in the TEMP folder as before.


It may help if you explained how you are observing this symptom.
E.g. are you using FileMon, perhaps filtering on fav;ico;tmp;Temp
to see it happen in realtime?

If not (and assuming FileMon works as well in Win9x as it does in NTx)
I suggest you try that in case it gives you any better insight about
what is going on. Similarly you could use RegMon to supplement
that diagnosis, e.g., in case the cause is based in the registry. Etc.

Note: FileMon and RegMon are both widely used freeware tools
from SysInternals.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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