Where'd Ya Get Those Names?
Adam Kachwalla
Memphis was the codename for Windows 98!
Who thinks of these cool names? (I like the Memphis one!)
Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
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> How can they think of names like Whidbey, Longhorn, Memphis etc?
> Memphis was the codename for Windows 98!
>
> Who thinks of these cool names? (I like the Memphis one!)
The development teams and program mangers do.
However these have to be checked with our legal department to ensure global
suitability.
Also some codenames follow a pattern such as the Windows group are currently
using the local (to Redmond) skiing resort as a source of names
e.g. Windows XP was "Whistler" the next release is "longhorn" and the
following is Blackcomb
see http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/index.htm (with the bar in between the
2 mountains called Longhorn.)
In the days you mention with Memphis - you had the Windows group possibly
using the notion of how far from Redmond denotes the time to development and
shipment of the product as well as an Egyptian theme in there too. (Cairo
and Memphis)
so from Windows 3.x you had (in no particular order)
Daytona - Windows NT 3.5
Chicago - Windows 95
Indy - Windows NT 3.51
Nashville - Windows 95 OEM Service Release 1
Memphis - Windows 98
Cairo - long way out -- technologies from the Cairo project appeared in NT
4.0, Windows 2000 and are still to come in future products.
and so on
NT 4.0 never had a codename
NT 5.0 - Windows 2000
Whistler - Windows XP and Windows Server 2003
Longhorn - next major release after Whistler
Blackcomb - future major release after Longhorn
(Note we now have interim Server releases such as "R2" which will ship
between Server 2003 and the Longhorn Server)
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"Adam Kachwalla" <AdamKa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Phil Taylor
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> "Adam Kachwalla" <AdamKa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:0330C81B-BD8B-4E97...@microsoft.com...
>> How can they think of names like Whidbey, Longhorn, Memphis etc?
>> Memphis was the codename for Windows 98!
>>
>> Who thinks of these cool names? (I like the Memphis one!)
>
> The development teams and program mangers do.
> However these have to be checked with our legal department to ensure
> global suitability.
> Also some codenames follow a pattern such as the Windows group are
> currently using the local (to Redmond) skiing resort as a source of names
> e.g. Windows XP was "Whistler" the next release is "longhorn" and the
> following is Blackcomb
> see http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/index.htm (with the bar in between
> the 2 mountains called Longhorn.)
>
> In the days you mention with Memphis - you had the Windows group possibly
> using the notion of how far from Redmond denotes the time to development
> and shipment of the product as well as an Egyptian theme in there too.
> (Cairo and Memphis)
iirc, the 9x codenames are all cities on the Misssissippi. Chicago, Memphis,
Cairo.
not Egyptian related.
Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
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>
> "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mike...@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> "Adam Kachwalla" <AdamKa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:0330C81B-BD8B-4E97...@microsoft.com...
>>> How can they think of names like Whidbey, Longhorn, Memphis etc?
>>> Memphis was the codename for Windows 98!
>>>
>>> Who thinks of these cool names? (I like the Memphis one!)
>>
>> The development teams and program mangers do.
>> However these have to be checked with our legal department to ensure
>> global suitability.
>> Also some codenames follow a pattern such as the Windows group are
>> currently using the local (to Redmond) skiing resort as a source of names
>> e.g. Windows XP was "Whistler" the next release is "longhorn" and the
>> following is Blackcomb
>> see http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/index.htm (with the bar in between
>> the 2 mountains called Longhorn.)
>>
>> In the days you mention with Memphis - you had the Windows group possibly
>> using the notion of how far from Redmond denotes the time to development
>> and shipment of the product as well as an Egyptian theme in there too.
>> (Cairo and Memphis)
>
> iirc, the 9x codenames are all cities on the Misssissippi. Chicago,
> Memphis, Cairo.
>
> not Egyptian related.
>
Chicago is on the Chicago River which through the use of man made canals
does connect to the Mississippi
However Memphis is a city on the Nile down river from Cairo, hence the 9x
codename prior to reaching Cairo.
http://www.touregypt.net/memphis.htm
Of course that analogy also holds true for the river being the Mississippi
and again the distance from Redmond may also still hold true.
Either way it is all just history now.
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"Phil Taylor" <pta...@private-citizen.com> wrote in message
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Adam Kachwalla
What is the REAL name of Longhorn going to be?
BTW, What is a "Longhorn"? An overgrown rhinoceros?
And what does it have to do with Windows?
Why does the codenames need to be sent to the legal department?
Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
>
> What is the REAL name of Longhorn going to be?
>
The final product designation for the Windows "Longhorn" release will not be
decided until much closer to the final release next year.
> BTW, What is a "Longhorn"? An overgrown rhinoceros?
>
Longhorn is the bar between the Whistler and Blackcomb ski resorts.
see
http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/index.htm
So Whistler was the codename for Windows XP, then Windows "Longhorn" (the
bar between the 2 mountains), then Windows "Blackcomb"
> And what does it have to do with Windows?
>
It has nothing to do with Windows - it is a codename !
>
> Why does the codenames need to be sent to the legal department?
Codenames have to be approved by our legal department as while they are for
use internally they do often become public knowledge. So like all product
names from most manufacturers you need to check that the name does not
infringe on our companies copyrights or that it does not mean something in
another language that may be offensive or that its meaning is not going to
cause any number of problems.
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"Adam Kachwalla" <AdamKa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Adam Kachwalla
"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote:
O. K... er, umm, well, ok.
Now... uh... I think I get it...
Do you OWN the legal departmant?
Or is it a world-wide organization?
NB: Just let me know if you laughed at this:
>BTW, What is a "Longhorn"? An overgrown rhinoceros?
I know I did! (Not exactly ROTFLMAO, but not so far off it)
(See the second last message before this one)
Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
>
>
> O. K... er, umm, well, ok.
> Now... uh... I think I get it...
> Do you OWN the legal departmant?
> Or is it a world-wide organization?
>
>
I am talking about our (Microsoft's) legal department.
Known as Microsoft LCA - Microsoft Legal and Corporate Affairs department
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"Adam Kachwalla" <AdamKa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Domino
So what you're saying is that Longhorn is only code name and won't be the
eventual name on the boxes of the new Windows Operating System next year ...
I don't know, I kinda like that chronological progression like Windows
95...98...2000 and XP was like the pinnacle of Microsoft software technology,
God only knows what'll come next! So much depends on the name of Microsoft's
operating system but I think in general people have come to know Microsoft
for it's Windows O.S. so I don't think there needs to be a colossal change -
we know what you're talking about!
Cheers,
Domino
Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
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> Hi,
>
> So what you're saying is that Longhorn is only code name and won't be the
> eventual name on the boxes of the new Windows Operating System next year
> ...
> I don't know, I kinda like that chronological progression like Windows
> 95...98...2000 and XP was like the pinnacle of Microsoft software
> technology,
> God only knows what'll come next! So much depends on the name of
> Microsoft's
> operating system but I think in general people have come to know Microsoft
> for it's Windows O.S. so I don't think there needs to be a colossal
> change -
> we know what you're talking about!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Domino
Hello Domino,
Correct - "Longhorn" is just the code name for the current development
effort for the next major release of the client and server versions of
Windows.
Nearly all of our products use codenames internally and then a public name
is decided upon.
In the case of Windows we had the switch from version numbering 3.1, 3.11,
NT 4.0 etc to a year based system Windows 95, 98, 2000 etc.
But as you know there are exceptions such as Windows ME and Windows XP.
So the final naming for the products that re currently in development as
Windows "Longhorn" will not be decided for some significant time yet.
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Andre Da Costa
9x - 95, 98, ME
NT - NT 3, NT 4, 2000
Windows XP merged the ease of use of Windows 9x with its great driver
support and the stability of Windows NT although Windows XP was built off
the Windows 2000 Advanced Server, its the core that utimately matters. For
Longhorn Microsoft is developing it from the the most recent updated code,
which is Windows Server 2003 SP1.
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Adam Kachwalla
"Andre Da Costa" wrote:
> Code bases were once devided in to 9X and NT:
> 9x - 95, 98, ME
> NT - NT 3, NT 4, 2000
>
> Windows XP merged the ease of use of Windows 9x with its great driver
> support and the stability of Windows NT although Windows XP was built off
> the Windows 2000 Advanced Server, its the core that utimately matters. For
> Longhorn Microsoft is developing it from the the most recent updated code,
> which is Windows Server 2003 SP1.
So what ur saying is that Blackcomb will be based on longhorn which will be
based on Windows 2003 SP1, etc,etc,etc.?
So, Windows 1.0 to Windows 3.11 never had a conename?
And your saying that MS thought of these names since 1981 or something?
Andre Da Costa
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