How to re-install Win98 over Win98SE ?
jzie...@geocities.com
first edition. The problem is that Win98SE refuses
to install an earlier version over itself.
Unfortunately, I no longer have the Uninstaller in
Control Panel/Add-Remove neither win98undo.dat/ini.
If I'm not wrong, there is a file to erase so as Win98SE
would no longer be identified by the system.
What file is it ? Is that safe ?
Is there any other trick to reinstall the first edition whithout
having to reformat the HD ?
TIA for any help.
Jack
James A. Eshelman
news:ADcpOFLsenQ=mwKsIPx1...@4ax.com...
> Due to the shutdown bug of SE, I want to re-install Win 98
> first edition. The problem is that Win98SE refuses
> to install an earlier version over itself.
Correct. Even if you could find a way to trick it, you would be running some
serious risks of compromising your system by installing an earlier version
of an OS over a later version.
> If I'm not wrong, there is a file to erase so as Win98SE
> would no longer be identified by the system.
Untrue. It would take many hundreds of files.
I can think of a couple I'd try if pressed -- like WIN.COM -- but (a) I
don't know if that would work, (b) it is less likely to work in 98 than it
would have in 95, and (c) as mentioned above, if it *does* work, you are
running a serious risk of getting a pretty junked up operating system.
> What file is it ? Is that safe ?
See above.
> Is there any other trick to reinstall the first edition whithout
> having to reformat the HD ?
I see that you have two options. One is to reformat the hard drive (or at
least delete Windows off of it) and start fresh. The other is to bring up
the individual problems you are having in SE on this newsgroup and let us
help you solve them. Is it anything more than the shutdown bug? Have you
really tried everything?
For SE shutdown bug resolution, see:
http://members.xoom.com/Khephra/a_shdnse.htm
For tips on clean reinstalliing Windows 98 (but without suggestions on
installing it over an existing SE setup) see
http://members.xoom.com/Khephra/a_clean.htm
--
James A. Eshelman - MS-MVP (DTS)
(Presently seeking employment in LA Area)
See: Windows 95/98 Support page at
http://members.xoom.com/Khephra
jzie...@geocities.com
<us...@server.com> wrote:
>I see that you have two options. One is to reformat the hard drive (or at
>least delete Windows off of it) and start fresh. The other is to bring up
>the individual problems you are having in SE on this newsgroup and let us
>help you solve them. Is it anything more than the shutdown bug? Have you
>really tried everything?
>
to help me again. I appreciate it very much.
1) about the problem : the main symptom is hanging up on shutdown.
In fact, it's not so hard to push the power button on exit.
One thing I find more unpleasant is that all newly installed
programs are no longer reindexed in Start/Programs menu
but simply put each time at the bottom of the list.
Probably this task should normally be performed by Windows
between the "Windows is shutting down" and the
"It's now safe to turn off your computer" messages...
I remember I've seen (on the Microdoft site, I think)
a list of which tasks Windows is performing during this gap.
Do you know if there is some *.com or *.exe to run in order
to reindex the programs in the list ?
2) about what I already tried :
- updated BIOS
- updated Matrox drivers
- updated Adaptec drivers
- installed Microsoft SE shutting down supplement several times,
including while disabling all TSR
- disabled PnP
- disabled PCI bus IRQ steering
- added lines to config.sys
- verified exit sound file
- verified internal speaker
Last things I can outline : while attempting to shutdown,
the screen is flashing twice an - sometimes - Read OK is
lighting on my SCSI CD Recorder...
Another strange thing that happened :
when I installed Win98SE for the first time, it did not
recognize my SCSI tape drive and put a ? in the device
manager list. Then, I deleted this entry and restarted
Windows. This time, the hardware was recognized as "tape drive"
with an (outdated ?) 1996 driver.
Can't say more.
Thanks again.
Jack
Shirl
tried the patch and other things that didn't work.
Eventually I found out it was the network card (which is not used), and
disabling it made it shutdown.
<jzie...@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:ADcpOFLsenQ=mwKsIPx1...@4ax.com...
> Due to the shutdown bug of SE, I want to re-install Win 98
> first edition. The problem is that Win98SE refuses
> to install an earlier version over itself.
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the Uninstaller in
> Control Panel/Add-Remove neither win98undo.dat/ini.
> If I'm not wrong, there is a file to erase so as Win98SE
> would no longer be identified by the system.
> What file is it ? Is that safe ?
> Is there any other trick to reinstall the first edition whithout
> having to reformat the HD ?