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bjanko

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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I'm networking my two computers at home. I've never networked a
couple computers before. I understand I need two NIC cards, a
hub, and the cable.

Can anyone offer any advice in terms of what brands or types to
buy; or any advice, warnings, or tips on how to go about this?

The computers are both on Win98 and will be about 50 to 100 feet
apart in separate rooms. I'm going to cable modem for my
internet connection.

Thanks,
bjanko


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Al @Home

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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I bought a Linksys 'Network Starter Kit' from CompUSA about 18 months
ago, for about $65 or so at the time. It came with two NICS and a small
five (5) port hub, plus a few cables. I network four Win9X/NT/LINUX
boxes together and share my cable modem @Home, using SyGate 3.11 (Build
560). It works very well for my home LAN. My wife and I do normal file
and print sharing, internet surfing and NetMeeting video conferencing
with distant relatives. We do NOT do any gaming, so that may be a
consideration for you.

Others use Wingate, Win98 SE with ICS, etc. for sharing the internet
connection. Its your choice.

I also recommend ZoneAlarm for a personal firewall. Its free...

www.sybergen.com for SyGate information and a free trial version.
www.zonelabs.com for ZoneAlarm information and download.

Good luck...

Al

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Angry of Mayfair

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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Are you using Zone Alarm with Sygate?
There is a statement in the Zone Alarm FAQ that says it does not work with
'NAT' software, which, AFAIK, is what Sygate is....

Confused...
GB

> and share my cable modem @Home, using SyGate 3.11 (Build
> 560). It works very well for my home LAN.

> I also recommend ZoneAlarm for a personal firewall. Its free...

Charles Paluda

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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Umm, it doesn't support them, but if the current version detects one
installed (NAT) it will tell you to set Internet Security for Zonealarm to
Medium instead of High. The only thing you seem to lose is your ports are
no longer in Stealth mode. The Netbios port is still undetectable though.
They are supposedly working on a new version that will "support" NAT's. I'm
using it with ICS no problem.

Charles

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Angry of Mayfair

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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Thanks Charles,
I can confirm your posting.
I just downloaded Zone Alarm to use with Sygate.
In 'High Security' Internet setting, nothing from my 2nd networked PC gets
through, but by setting it to 'Medium' Internet security it all works OK.
Both these options were tested using 'Sheilds Up' - in 'High' mode all
ports and connections were in Stealth mode but in 'Medium' mode they (all
except one) are listed as 'Closed'...
BUT AFAIK, the Sygate software provides very similar security by itself, so
until ZA brings out a NAT compatible version it's probably not worth using,
IMHO.

Does anyone know if Zone Alarm works any better with NAT32?

GB

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Al @Work

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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Guys,

I run ZA 2.1.25 on my SyGate 3.11 (Build 560) box in "High" security
mode on the internet side. I have ZA set for "Low" on my local LAN side.
I also disabled the SyGate "Enable Enhanced Security" setting, ie.
UNCHECK the checkbox, in the SyGate manager configuration window.
Traffic from my private home LAN passes freely through the SyGate server
as advertised. Likewise, traffic from the SyGate server box can access
the internet. I simply had to tell ZA to allow SyGate to access the
internet. I can also do two-way audio/video NetMeeting 3.01 (4.4.3388)
conferences from a client machine on my home LAN. The only stipulation
is that I must initiate the call. Remote hosts can not call into the
client. On the server, NetMeeting can call or receive calls, again with
ZA in "High" security mode. I did have to tell ZA to let NetMeeting act
as a "server". I have NO other programs configured as servers as far as
ZA is concerned.

The "Shields-Up" site reports all ports as "Stealth". I have not tried
the "Whacker Hacker" site yet. I also can not ping my home ZA host from
the internet, confirming the "Shields-Up" report.

Al @Work --> aka Al @Home and sometimes Al @School...

Val Harrop

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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To share your cable modem connection using a single IP address from your
provider, you would need two NICs in the computer the modem is attached to -
one for the modem and one for your LAN, and they should be different makes.
So you could buy a kit with a hub and 2 NICs and an extra card from another
manufacturer.

These are some helpful sites:

http://www.timhiggins.com/
http://www.sohointer.net
http://www.911networks.com
http://www.wown.com/
http://www.helmig.com/

Good luck,
Val

Angry of Mayfair

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Jun 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/17/00
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Thanks for the info...
The weird thing is that when I set ZA to 'high' on the Internet side,
nothing from my 2nd PC on my LAN gets through to the I'net.
The PC running Sygate and the direct cable to the ISP is OK, but any other
pc's on my LAN can't see the WWW....

This is with sygate ticked (in ZA) to allow it I'net access...

GB

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Jun 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/17/00
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It seems that the thread to your original query took a wandering route away
from your topic.

I found, early on, that all you need to do is to install a NIC in each
machine and configure them according to manufacturer specs. Then you need
only a CROSS OVER CABLE. This cable is wired in such a way as to accomodate
only 2 computers and no more. Consequently, you are not really networking
but you are SHARING resources between 2 computers. Consequently again, you
do not need a hub!!!

Just set up networking on the individual systems the same way you would
under any other NETWORKING conditions and you're on your way!

Of course, under WIN98 on 2 systems you can also log onto the net on a
single modem simultaneously. Some cable systems will allow 2 systems but no
more without additional cost.

Hope this was helpful!

Griff

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bjanko wrote:
>
>
> I'm networking my two computers at home. I've never networked a
> couple computers before. I understand I need two NIC cards, a
> hub, and the cable.
>
> Can anyone offer any advice in terms of what brands or types to
> buy; or any advice, warnings, or tips on how to go about this?
>
> The computers are both on Win98 and will be about 50 to 100 feet
> apart in separate rooms. I'm going to cable modem for my
> internet connection.
>
> Thanks,
> bjanko
>
>
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